It wasn’t an election, it was a recall initiative, no ballots were rejected. Heck, there were people on this very website who said, “I signed even though I moved away. I hope it counts.”
This is a high, but not unprecedented, percentage to be rejected.
This is a bad sticky headline because it is purposely misleading. It’s important info, and certifications should be inspected/reviewed, but these two things shouldn’t be compared, it makes us look as dumb as Reddit when it’s stickied with this title.
No. I’m talking about recall and initiative petitions I have worked on in 4 different states in the last decade.
This isn’t an election, this is just asking voters if they think there should be an election.
We’ve all been talking about this for weeks and some people on this site have mentioned signing it more than once. It’s what you’re supposed to ask for as a staff person or volunteer.
These signature sheets have exactly zero security in their chain of custody. If I’m driving home from gathering signatures and I spill coffee on my sheets, I will still turn them in, but if the voters info is no longer legible, they will be rejected.
There is also no ID or signature verification in this process (at least in WI and FL) the county clerk just tries to read a signature and if they can’t, it’s tossed out. Some more diligent ones might see, “D(scribble) T(scribble) address Mar-a-lago” and decipher that is is Donald Trump, others will just say, “I can’t tell, I’ll toss it.”
There is plenty of room for foul play, I can tell you stories of stacks of petitions going “missing” after have some new volunteers we didn’t background check in the office. Or lazy paid canvassers that make up names and addresses because they are paid by the raw signature (in good operations we validate them from at least the first few shifts of a newbie). But it’s difficult the threshold is, appropriately, high for recalling a duly elected official, and this is only the first step in a lengthy process.
My beef isn’t that I think nothing shady happened, my beef is it is incomparable to the signature verification that (should be) happening during elections.
I wonder what the difference was between the two elections!
It wasn’t an election, it was a recall initiative, no ballots were rejected. Heck, there were people on this very website who said, “I signed even though I moved away. I hope it counts.”
This is a high, but not unprecedented, percentage to be rejected.
This is a bad sticky headline because it is purposely misleading. It’s important info, and certifications should be inspected/reviewed, but these two things shouldn’t be compared, it makes us look as dumb as Reddit when it’s stickied with this title.
I assume the precedent you're referring to is something like "a South American dictator in the 1960s threw out all the votes!"
No. I’m talking about recall and initiative petitions I have worked on in 4 different states in the last decade.
This isn’t an election, this is just asking voters if they think there should be an election.
We’ve all been talking about this for weeks and some people on this site have mentioned signing it more than once. It’s what you’re supposed to ask for as a staff person or volunteer.
These signature sheets have exactly zero security in their chain of custody. If I’m driving home from gathering signatures and I spill coffee on my sheets, I will still turn them in, but if the voters info is no longer legible, they will be rejected.
There is also no ID or signature verification in this process (at least in WI and FL) the county clerk just tries to read a signature and if they can’t, it’s tossed out. Some more diligent ones might see, “D(scribble) T(scribble) address Mar-a-lago” and decipher that is is Donald Trump, others will just say, “I can’t tell, I’ll toss it.”
There is plenty of room for foul play, I can tell you stories of stacks of petitions going “missing” after have some new volunteers we didn’t background check in the office. Or lazy paid canvassers that make up names and addresses because they are paid by the raw signature (in good operations we validate them from at least the first few shifts of a newbie). But it’s difficult the threshold is, appropriately, high for recalling a duly elected official, and this is only the first step in a lengthy process.
My beef isn’t that I think nothing shady happened, my beef is it is incomparable to the signature verification that (should be) happening during elections.