Or even easier, if everyone has to take it every year, and the government buys it and forces everyone to take it, then the biotechs make Trillions is a good enough reason for me.
Not every year. The newest guidance only removes quarantine restriction for close contact to if you had your second dose within 3 months. Otherwise you have no benefit for having received immunization. Some will be taking it every 3 months soon
If half the military died and China used its wormhole network (not like they have logistics capability to do it with boats lol) to put boots on American soil it would be a turkey shoot. Chinks just pulled their camps off the Indian border, their military is big but weak and soy as fuck cuz of the one child policy.
Trump was naive to trust Fauci. Medicine was completely out of his field of expertise. His heart was huge and wanted to do the right thing, but they played him into supporting the jab too aggressively.
What's strange to me is that, despite the horrible/deadly side effects of the vaccine, the establishment/MSM are not letting up on rolling it out or pointing any blame. They could easily turn this into a "see, Trump's rushed vaccine is killing people" scenario - hold back the rollout indefinitely and Impeach/imprison Trump for crimes against humanity. And if Trump was President today they would still be pushing for total vaccinations regardless.
Just further confirms to me this vaccine was always part of the plan.
Would be silly for Buydem to declare there wasn’t a vaccine until his administration and then create odd news about how it was just created, even if that could undermine confidence in said “vaccine.” https://i.maga.host/jqBsAU0.png
Too many times and in so many ways was Trump deceived and manipulated
by the Deep State. He should have established a point (sycophants for the Deep State)-counterpoint (a cadre of honest and open scientists and medical professionals) commission instead to keep that f*cking Fauci, Berx, Pence,
and the MSM (the point) under his control and not the other way around.
The counterpoint would have been provided an opportunity to present
their contentions and arguments before the public by way of the Trump
administration and not by way of conservative news feeds alone.
I don't think you understand. The military cannot refuse the vaccine without at least being dishonorably discharged if not worse, unless maybe they make a religious exemption claim which will also likely lead to at least a discharge without prejudice or just an honorable discharge where the military just wants you out. The pentagon also just announced that 92% of all eligible reenlisted or re-upped their contract. These are people who are choosing to remain traitors and are agents of the illegitimate Liberal Occupation Government (LOG). You may have supported the heinous and immoral invasion of Iraq where our military was sent off to destroy the country, destroy communities and families, and kill hundreds of thousands of men and boys who were defending their lands and communities from our military invasion … just like you would.
Do not fool yourself to think that the military would not turn their drones and bombs and pension and GI Bill paid mercenary army against you or your communities if you defy the LOG. I think more and more, especially after the military installed the illegitimate LOG despot Biden and Kamela … that they very much would attack you and your community and states.
I would gladly take a discharge or court martial vs a fake vaccine with completely unknown long term side effects.
However, a lot of soldiers will just accept anything. It happened during Desert Storm, they gave all soldiers a slew of random shit and many had terrible chronic problems from it. And they all accepted with no refusals.
Yup. And that is how you can create a de facto enslaved populace that is managed by the ruling class. We are teetering on a razor's edge and the ruling class knows it because they brought it about intentionally. If you start looking at things, just like in the past, what has producing this today is not only caused by the very same people, but for very similar purposes to try to institute communism out of the crash. The last time though, their plans went wrong when a leader rose up and threw wrenches into their gears and plans. They have laid the groundwork for decades now to prevent that leader rising up again that would muck up their plans for the white slaves.
The military cannot refuse the vaccine without at least being dishonorably discharged if not worse
Well THAT'S not true. This is an unlawful and unethical order that SHOULD be disobeyed. If they wanted to press the issue they'd have to court marshal someone, and in that case they would have to prove the efficacy of vaccinating people who are not at risk of being harmed by a virus that isn't a real problem with a vaccine that's not a vaccine which has never been tested.
I'm in the military, and if it comes to it I'll be the one to take it that far. I'd literally rather take the dishonorable discharge than take the "vaccine".
It is in fact actually true that if the military wants to push it it can force it on you because you do not have constitutional rights as a GI … government issue … i.e., government property, which it seems at least for the moment they are not doing. Are you not at all seeing or hearing any kind of pressure about the vaccine? I don't think there are enough doses, which is likely also another reason it is not being pushed at the moment, but I can assure you that there will be immense top down pressure when the time comes, because that is how the military is and combine that with the fact that the military is totally compromised, no matter to what level the
enlisted ranks are "based", the brass is cucked liberal "university" indoctrinated traitors.
You are correct though, individuals could stand against the system and challenge it and I think if it was you, you would get a lot of support, even if it were not to matter. I suspect you would face a decision that you simply voluntarily separate, unless they want to make an example of you in order to dissuade any other white slaves getting any ideas. I suspect though that anything that would come out of the trial would be deemed classified and would not see the light of day and you would be threatened with life in prison for talking about it. If you are serious about what you want to do, which I salute you for, I would seriously start looking for sympathetic attorneys and get at least connected with an organization that looks out for vets' rights that is also viably actually conservative. It would not hurt at all having all that in your back pocket even if you just want to get out on good terms. They will not likely want to move on someone that is connected with groups that could be mobilized and spread the word. If you stand alone, you will hang alone. Besides the availability, I suspect these issues are exactly why the military is also not forcing the issue at the moment or even talking about it, regardless of what the plan is in order to gauge things first.
On a side note, are you hearing any kind of discussions or grumblings about remaining in the military in support of this illegitimate government that is clearly anti-white? Or just likely being sent off to another war for a foreign government soon enough?
Are you not at all seeing or hearing any kind of pressure about the vaccine?
No pressure, no. Just the usual feel-good propaganda on the AFN stuff. The powers that be have stated they aren't going to force us to take the vaccine. Legally, they are not in a great position to force us to take an experimental vaccine that isn't a vaccine, so that's probably why. Aside from making statements on the availability of it and asking who wants to take it, I haven't heard anything (most have declined to take it from what I've seen). Should that change, I'll be disobeying that order, come what may.
but I can assure you that there will be immense top down pressure when the time comes
And I can assure you that they'll have far more legal work to deal with than they want to. They barely enforce normal standards because they don't want to have to deal with extra paperwork punishing shithead soldiers who can't do basic shit right. Don't overestimate these officers. At the end of the day, they're here for themselves, not to do more work than is necessary to get their PCS awards, ribbons, and cushy assignments.
no matter to what level the enlisted ranks are "based", the brass is cucked liberal "university" indoctrinated traitors.
I'd say the enlisted ranks are more like 50/50 based to cucked as well. Maybe in the combat arms ranks it's more lopsided. The enlisted side is a glorified jobs program and college fund. It attracts those with no skills and no way to pay for college, and that's exactly what those people focus on.
I suspect you would face a decision that you simply voluntarily separate, unless they want to make an example of you in order to dissuade any other white slaves getting any ideas
Most likely that's what would happen. They could simply bar from reenlistment anyone who doesn't take it, and that'd be that. Reduces their headache while accomplishing the task of removing any free-thinking people who see what's going on.
are you hearing any kind of discussions or grumblings about remaining in the military in support of this illegitimate government that is clearly anti-white?
On that specifically, very little because it's such a taboo topic. But I think many are starting to realize what's happening. Letting trannies back in has perked a lot of ears up. You should have seen when Obama first let them in, the briefs we go on how to handle it were nothing short of comical. There were several officers up there in front of basically the whole post (small joint post, several hundred Soldiers at most) trying to relay the guidance they were given and take questions. When someone asked what they should do if they saw what looked like a male in the female barracks after hours while on CQ, they literally couldn't come up with an answer. It was hilarious. Eventually they just said "...dignity and respect" and left it at that.
Irrespective of the government being illegitimate, I don't know of anyone who wants to stay in any longer than they need to to get enough experience to get out with a job lined up (which isn't much at all in my field). Morale was already at an all time low due to the retardation of the ACFT and then covid and how poorly the "leaders" have handled both. I think everyone can see that the powers that be have no fucking clue what they're doing. The fiasco with the National Guard troops was icing on the cake. No one feels good about being in the Army anymore, at least no one I know. I think it's probably setting in that this whole organization is a fucking joke and God help us if they ever throw us into another war.
Fair enough. I am still not convinced that they would not crack down if pressured by the illegitimate fake president and his fake pentagon staff, especially if they realize that the military will not take it voluntarily. I think you are mistaken though about whether you can be forced. It will be interesting to see how or what they do, because it leaves the military in between a rock and a hard place. You can't go fight wars for foreign and ruling class interests when everyone simply leaves the military. I suspect they will coordinate it with reenlistment/re-up bonuses that are even more insane than they already are. I'm sure some would take that shot for a $100,000 bonus, even if they don't realize it's funny money. Tell me I'm wrong.
removing any free-thinking people who see what's going on.
And that is how they will also shift the military towards being deployable against American slaves that don't want to follow the ruling class' orders to fight the new ISSI called "white supremacists", aka, all whites. Non-whites and especially foreign nationals/recently immigrated will have far less issues with deploying and fighting Americans and whites that demand to abide by that funny piece of paper called the Constitution that means absolutely nothing to non-whites/Europeans.
If you thought that the guidance passed down back then was funny, there's more coming down the chute even though it won't be as overt due to the abruptness of it. The pentagon is now being purged in a very overt and blatant almost cultural revolution type way and replaced with diversity.
Frankly, I think the best thing that could happen to America is if there was some real large scale war that maybe even produced a major, stunning loss that is a shock to the conscience. I have to say, unless it's fighting off people literally invading the CONUS, I would do whatever necessary not to fight since I am an anti-racist and don't want to take the opportunity from historically repressed minorities from fighting in wars. I really don't see anything to fight for anymore unless it's in direct defense, not some "we're going to destroy their country and communities and kill their people who are defending themselves from our invasion so we don't have to fight the people with no means of even getting to the USA over here." . Maybe that is the point, but it's working.
You may want to edit that part describing our duty location out of your post.
I'm not sure what you meant but you may want to start snooping around the transition assistance program offerings that aim to hook people up with jobs. Don't talk yourself down and out, as a vet you will have opportunities that are essentially created for you even in corporations and there are also programs where you can learn a trade like HVAC and solar installs, for which there is a huge demand still, while you are still in the service, that you can then build out into running your own company if you want. There are also programs to start companies and assistance even with how to get them started and get funding. I would seriously get started looking no later than one year out just to get things lined up. You can also look into joining a contractor if you want to sell your soul to the monster. There may be need to do things you are doing now or sometimes (not infrequently) just being a hot body that can learn is enough to fill positions that contractors are trying to fill to meet their contractual obligations and make money off you sitting in a chair.
I think you are mistaken though about whether you can be forced.
I'm sure they have the authority to order me to do it, but at no point will I willingly submit to it. And if they want to physically force me to do it, then I would leave. Whether that means leave the country or what, they won't be getting that shit into my body.
I suspect they will coordinate it with reenlistment/re-up bonuses that are even more insane than they already are. I'm sure some would take that shot for a $100,000 bonus, even if they don't realize it's funny money. Tell me I'm wrong.
Dead wrong. Reenlistment bonuses are garbage these days. The only ones who get any good bonuses are the dogshit MOS's that only a retard would want/tolerate. I got a whopping $1600. They don't have the money to throw 5 or 6 figure bonuses at people, and they never will. Even if they could they'd still be hemorrhaging people because at the end of the day, no amount of money will make people want to fight alongside trannies for a banana republic that wants them dead. At least in third world dictators they would ATTEMPT to make their troops feel appreciated.
And that is how they will also shift the military towards being deployable against American slaves that don't want to follow the ruling class' orders to fight the new ISSI called "white supremacists", aka, all whites. Non-whites and especially foreign nationals/recently immigrated will have far less issues with deploying and fighting Americans and whites that demand to abide by that funny piece of paper called the Constitution that means absolutely nothing to non-whites/Europeans.
That's a tall order, though. Doing so would easily cause in-fighting within the military. The more conservative people tend to be the trigger-pullers. You also have to factor in people who aren't really vocal who wouldn't go along with it once it becomes apparent what's going on. Saboteurs would be everywhere. Almost no one would be actually motivated to attack their own people. There's too much indoctrination to undo for that to happen any time soon.
Frankly, I think the best thing that could happen to America is if there was some real large scale war that maybe even produced a major, stunning loss that is a shock to the conscience.
Nah, I think that would just play into the despotic left's hand. The best thing would be for Texas to kick off a secession movement, resulting in the federal government collapsing and making room for a new government to be formed. Nothing else will get the job done.
You may want to edit that part describing our duty location out of your post.
That was a former post that I was at. No chance anyone could guess it, much less link me to it.
And I appreciate the tips. But I've got some skills that are in very high demand. If the economy goes to shit I should still be alright finding a job on the outside.
lol you still don't know that the Nuremberg stuff was all just a kangaroo court show, a facade of legitimacy by process … it was literally no different and a copy of all other communist Jewish show trials.
Very true, and they not only have been winning, they have been dominating and subjugating us for a long time. Heck, they even sent the American slave whites to fight against their own interests when they were sent to fight the German slave revolt that tried to remove the abusive ruling class that dominates us all.
So it’s voluntary right now due to the low amount available. They’re anticipating it being mandatory by 2023 as part of readiness requirements for deployments.
Let that sink in. 20 fucking 23! They’re going to do their best to never let this shit go away.
Already made in the lab. Just waiting for the right time for it to leak. The human race should put out hit lists on these evil "elites" that believe they rule the planet and we are their slaves. Imagine a tv show about a gofundme type site where people can donate to a bounty for the heads of people like Gates, Soros, etc. Say there's a $20M bounty on Gates. he'd have to always have his head on a swivel. Couldn't trust his own security or anything. Every episode would be about a new villain that the world works together to eliminate. I mentioned it would just be a tv show, right?
From the start I figured this would absolutely be added to our usual rotation of yearly illness, and that the vaccine would be as well. They can take their vaccine and shove it up their ass
I think they aren't legally allowed to make us take it since it hasn't been tested. It would be pretty fucking dumb to give your entire military force an experimental vaccine that may end up causing extremely expensive medical issues later on, to say nothing of it incapacitating or killing them.
Re-read my post. I didn't say it was mandatory yet. And I've heard plenty of people demanding that we vaccinate the ENTIRE population, which would include the military.
If you are under 30 and healthy, the wuflu poses zero risk to you. At this point I know dozens of fit people that have gotten covid and recovered in two or three days with minimal symptoms.
Yes, it’s voluntary but they are having personnel get it to do certain things. Like if you have to travel or whatnot. My brother was told if they make it mandatory for where they are making him travel, he has to get it.
Get this shit.. One of my friends is in the navy in Bahrain right now which we have no specific agreements with. He gets covid and the US GOVERNMENT SURRENDERED HIM TO BAHRAIN. He's being held indefinitely until the king basically says he can leave. The us government sent his supervisor who gave it to him to Germany where he's safe and yet he gets surrendered to a third world government. He's had to delete all social media because he's scared they're going to kill him for some shit he's said in the past. Trump would never let this happen. This is bidens America. I can't even get a straight answer as to how he's doing because if he says anything other than he's okay they may punish him. He's resigning as soon as he returns(if he returns)
Universal humiliation and compliance are their tools. Once you accept those the next steps will be even easier. Not many will wake up and break the cycle once they've gone far enough, and this injection is straight up cognitive dissonance.
From what I've heard from a neighbor whose kid is a career Marine is that it's the first vaccine that is OPTIONAL to receive. Apparently a lot of Marines are refusing to take it. It makes me wonder if it was mutiny that forced the armed services to make it optional or if they don't want to have a bunch of troops dying.
Forced sterilization. This fucks with your sperm count. It makes woman have miscarriages. The vaccines were created with the help of Bill Gates. A man who wants to decrease the population right now by 15%. And possibly 50% in 10 years.
Zuckerberg didn't do shit but get a CIA program known as lifelong. And the FBI runs it because the CIA isn't supposed to operate on us soil. Hence the name Facebook inc FBI. THEY DONT HAVE TO SPY WHEN YOU OPENLY TELL THEM EVERYTHING.
I bailed mid-90's as soon as it started to come out. At that time,. I fully expected FB to last another three or four years. Obviously, Americans have been conditioned. What else could explain it? (Meaning, the absolute dependence on something you know is not good for you.)
Do we have any active duty pedes here? I've been really curious how the military had been operating last year. I imagine they were forced to comply with lockdowns, no longer being granted liberty, leave, or port calls, but this is just my speculation. I'd like to hear from someone who is actually in. I imagine it really sucks right now.
Please tell me they're not making people PT in masks. Also, how on Earth are they enforcing social distancing? That doesn't make any sense, not that the military and the biden regime especially ever cared about that. The logistics of people living in barracks, doing musters, and going to chow are simply impossible to carry out under the mandate of "social distancing".
What do you mean "All of it"? Like, I know what that phrase means, but I'm having trouble fathoming that. Does that include basic training? Are new recruits not coming in? Are there people that have been stuck in basic training as recruits for over a year? That's insane! Nobody is meant to endure that crap for that long!
When I was in, I went into the Navy as a Nuke. The prototype training facility in Ballston Spa NY went through a command wide training freeze that lasted for 4 months. This caused a huge problem across the Navy as the nukes were reaching the fleet at half speed. Eventually the training was resumed there even though the problem was never solved. FYI, they had a 2nd facility in Charleston, SC. Nukes are considered super fucking essential to the functioning of the entire Navy. Did that really stop their training for an entire fucking year? Cause they can't afford to do that.
What about people getting out? No doubt thousands of people have their EMS dates crop up last year. Are they being denied their exit from the military? Cause that will cause a whole bunch of problems as well. No way you'll have any semblance of order or discipline when a bunch of people are telling their SNCOs and officers to fuck off because they should be out by now.
Not in the military, but I'm sure the cucked panic porn crowd would just say they aren't dying because the military protocols stop them from catching it.
Completely ignoring that the positivity rate in the military is almost exactly the same as the positivity rate across the general population.
Do you have an official source that it's been zero? I know it's very non-serious for the young and healthy, but without a source I would have guessed there would be maybe a few dozen.
14 total deaths out of 2.8 million active duty/reserve military.
There are so few that I was able to find the news stories on each one and look at their ages. Just created a spreadsheet, plugged in names and ages. Most of the 14 deaths are reservists older than 50. If I remember correctly there were 2 in their 30's.
Zero under 30. Out of 1.3 million in that age group.
military is always the test bed - you sign away your rights to individuality when you sign up. Least that's what happened in the 90s when I was in. You have no rights - they can pretty much do what tf they want as far as medical inoculations, etc.
Example - once they learned I had my wisdom teeth - I was scheduled the next day and they got yanked. I had no problems with my jaw or teeth, It was just 'standard practice'
Our vaccine response is so poor that it will take 1 year+ for me to be eligible and vaccine available to my group at the current rate. My local area is currently in the process of switching from Moderna to Pfizer vaccine. Even if you buy into the vaccine hype and aren't concerned over the reported post vaccination deaths, I'd rather wait to get a later generation vaccine and for more safety data to be available.
It’s easier to make money if your product is mandated by the United States government. Remember lobbyists and high ranking government operatives aren’t cheap.
Not trying to be THAT GUY, But we are better than the left and we should not use absolutes in arguments. "Big-Brain" lefties love to either: A. grammer correct you to win an argument, or B. highlight the 1 incorrect thing that you may state, even if you have proven 99 out of 100.
I for one, do not want to take it. keeping fingers crossed that it will not be forced to
The empirical data does NOT support the claims being made. There has still not been any deep coverage about what this CHY-NAH VIRUS is let alone what it does to the body other than a constant barrage of Mass Media fear mongering of the public with sparsely detailed accounts of incidents.
If COVID spreads 13 to 1 (vs the Flu's 1 to 1) then this whole planet has already been infected 5 times over. What are we all supposed to be afraid of?!
Either it's a giant hoax to gain control of the masses or they've done something sooooo bad that they can't reveal the details or the whole world collapses....
Os this virus really the air borne transmittable cancer as described by Plandemic Dr. Judy Mikovits? Because our current global response only makes sense with her points plugged into the narrative.
I dunno --- kill 'em? sterilize 'em? weaken 'em? or plant some sort of remote control device to 1984 'em so they'll obey the state rather than conscience and the United States Constitution? Just guessing.
As if the military doesn't spend billions of dollars on wasteful bullshit literally all the time.
There's lobbyists whose job is to sell bullshit to the military. Lots of them. They're almost certainly greasing the palms of our politicians to make sure the deals go thru too.
Fatality rate for rabies is several orders of magnitude higher than Wuflu for healthy individuals. Covid is a joke if you're under 65 and in good shape. That's not hyperbole. Just go look at the age adjusted breakdowns of death.
Are you seriously larping that young healthy individuals have to worry about covid? Because that's retarded.
The chance of getting rabies is near 0. You have to be bitten by an infected animal to get it. Yet we still do it. Whooping cough is super rare. We still give em booster shots.
You just don't want a sick soldier on a mission if you can prevent it.
You're looking at just over 2k deaths in the entire US "involving" covid for folks under the age of 30 and that's on the CDC's website. To demand the youth sacrifice their lives and futures for the elderly with 81+% of all deaths being folks 65 and older is absolutely evil and insane
The vaccine is for nothing other than a population control device, which gate's infirmated, to control population growth. It has a fertile solution in it... research is such a wonderful tool.
the military has always been the guinea pigs for vaccines, they should not be required to take any shots they don't want, they get more fucked up by the shots, oh that's right the military voted for Trump they are trying to kill them, so china can move in
Same with the bums.... but also side note military gets vaxx for many things civilians don't ie anthrax n what not, granted WuFlu is different n should b a choice <3 MAGA2021
Maybe it's because the mRNA jab is a binary bioweapon and they want to disable military during a critical time...just guessing
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Or even easier, if everyone has to take it every year, and the government buys it and forces everyone to take it, then the biotechs make Trillions is a good enough reason for me.
Not every year. The newest guidance only removes quarantine restriction for close contact to if you had your second dose within 3 months. Otherwise you have no benefit for having received immunization. Some will be taking it every 3 months soon
If half the military died and China used its wormhole network (not like they have logistics capability to do it with boats lol) to put boots on American soil it would be a turkey shoot. Chinks just pulled their camps off the Indian border, their military is big but weak and soy as fuck cuz of the one child policy.
We got enough mid 30s to mid 40s people who fought GWOT to compensate. Oath of enlistment never ends. My duty is to the constitution first.
Fuckin’ A.
What Dan Brown book is that from
More like Michael Crichton or Tom Clancy.
It's tyranny. Refuse this vaccine. We're better off with WuFlu.
It's the lower risk.
Agreed. I know Trump Was big on the vaccine and all, but no thanks. I’m not messing around with a new vaccine when my risk to wuflu is low.
Trump was naive to trust Fauci. Medicine was completely out of his field of expertise. His heart was huge and wanted to do the right thing, but they played him into supporting the jab too aggressively.
Yeah that’s how I see it too.
What's strange to me is that, despite the horrible/deadly side effects of the vaccine, the establishment/MSM are not letting up on rolling it out or pointing any blame. They could easily turn this into a "see, Trump's rushed vaccine is killing people" scenario - hold back the rollout indefinitely and Impeach/imprison Trump for crimes against humanity. And if Trump was President today they would still be pushing for total vaccinations regardless.
Just further confirms to me this vaccine was always part of the plan.
That the vaccines already existed before 'Covid', and not 7 to 20 years later like an actual vaccine, might be another indicator.
Would be silly for Buydem to declare there wasn’t a vaccine until his administration and then create odd news about how it was just created, even if that could undermine confidence in said “vaccine.” https://i.maga.host/jqBsAU0.png
I think Trump thought it was going to be a standard vaccine and not mRNA..
Too many times and in so many ways was Trump deceived and manipulated by the Deep State. He should have established a point (sycophants for the Deep State)-counterpoint (a cadre of honest and open scientists and medical professionals) commission instead to keep that f*cking Fauci, Berx, Pence, and the MSM (the point) under his control and not the other way around. The counterpoint would have been provided an opportunity to present their contentions and arguments before the public by way of the Trump administration and not by way of conservative news feeds alone.
I don't think you understand. The military cannot refuse the vaccine without at least being dishonorably discharged if not worse, unless maybe they make a religious exemption claim which will also likely lead to at least a discharge without prejudice or just an honorable discharge where the military just wants you out. The pentagon also just announced that 92% of all eligible reenlisted or re-upped their contract. These are people who are choosing to remain traitors and are agents of the illegitimate Liberal Occupation Government (LOG). You may have supported the heinous and immoral invasion of Iraq where our military was sent off to destroy the country, destroy communities and families, and kill hundreds of thousands of men and boys who were defending their lands and communities from our military invasion … just like you would.
Do not fool yourself to think that the military would not turn their drones and bombs and pension and GI Bill paid mercenary army against you or your communities if you defy the LOG. I think more and more, especially after the military installed the illegitimate LOG despot Biden and Kamela … that they very much would attack you and your community and states.
I would gladly take a discharge or court martial vs a fake vaccine with completely unknown long term side effects.
However, a lot of soldiers will just accept anything. It happened during Desert Storm, they gave all soldiers a slew of random shit and many had terrible chronic problems from it. And they all accepted with no refusals.
Exclusively electronic banking for those who serve the Beast. Problem solved...
Yup. And that is how you can create a de facto enslaved populace that is managed by the ruling class. We are teetering on a razor's edge and the ruling class knows it because they brought it about intentionally. If you start looking at things, just like in the past, what has producing this today is not only caused by the very same people, but for very similar purposes to try to institute communism out of the crash. The last time though, their plans went wrong when a leader rose up and threw wrenches into their gears and plans. They have laid the groundwork for decades now to prevent that leader rising up again that would muck up their plans for the white slaves.
Well THAT'S not true. This is an unlawful and unethical order that SHOULD be disobeyed. If they wanted to press the issue they'd have to court marshal someone, and in that case they would have to prove the efficacy of vaccinating people who are not at risk of being harmed by a virus that isn't a real problem with a vaccine that's not a vaccine which has never been tested.
I'm in the military, and if it comes to it I'll be the one to take it that far. I'd literally rather take the dishonorable discharge than take the "vaccine".
It is in fact actually true that if the military wants to push it it can force it on you because you do not have constitutional rights as a GI … government issue … i.e., government property, which it seems at least for the moment they are not doing. Are you not at all seeing or hearing any kind of pressure about the vaccine? I don't think there are enough doses, which is likely also another reason it is not being pushed at the moment, but I can assure you that there will be immense top down pressure when the time comes, because that is how the military is and combine that with the fact that the military is totally compromised, no matter to what level the enlisted ranks are "based", the brass is cucked liberal "university" indoctrinated traitors.
You are correct though, individuals could stand against the system and challenge it and I think if it was you, you would get a lot of support, even if it were not to matter. I suspect you would face a decision that you simply voluntarily separate, unless they want to make an example of you in order to dissuade any other white slaves getting any ideas. I suspect though that anything that would come out of the trial would be deemed classified and would not see the light of day and you would be threatened with life in prison for talking about it. If you are serious about what you want to do, which I salute you for, I would seriously start looking for sympathetic attorneys and get at least connected with an organization that looks out for vets' rights that is also viably actually conservative. It would not hurt at all having all that in your back pocket even if you just want to get out on good terms. They will not likely want to move on someone that is connected with groups that could be mobilized and spread the word. If you stand alone, you will hang alone. Besides the availability, I suspect these issues are exactly why the military is also not forcing the issue at the moment or even talking about it, regardless of what the plan is in order to gauge things first.
On a side note, are you hearing any kind of discussions or grumblings about remaining in the military in support of this illegitimate government that is clearly anti-white? Or just likely being sent off to another war for a foreign government soon enough?
No pressure, no. Just the usual feel-good propaganda on the AFN stuff. The powers that be have stated they aren't going to force us to take the vaccine. Legally, they are not in a great position to force us to take an experimental vaccine that isn't a vaccine, so that's probably why. Aside from making statements on the availability of it and asking who wants to take it, I haven't heard anything (most have declined to take it from what I've seen). Should that change, I'll be disobeying that order, come what may.
And I can assure you that they'll have far more legal work to deal with than they want to. They barely enforce normal standards because they don't want to have to deal with extra paperwork punishing shithead soldiers who can't do basic shit right. Don't overestimate these officers. At the end of the day, they're here for themselves, not to do more work than is necessary to get their PCS awards, ribbons, and cushy assignments.
I'd say the enlisted ranks are more like 50/50 based to cucked as well. Maybe in the combat arms ranks it's more lopsided. The enlisted side is a glorified jobs program and college fund. It attracts those with no skills and no way to pay for college, and that's exactly what those people focus on.
Most likely that's what would happen. They could simply bar from reenlistment anyone who doesn't take it, and that'd be that. Reduces their headache while accomplishing the task of removing any free-thinking people who see what's going on.
On that specifically, very little because it's such a taboo topic. But I think many are starting to realize what's happening. Letting trannies back in has perked a lot of ears up. You should have seen when Obama first let them in, the briefs we go on how to handle it were nothing short of comical. There were several officers up there in front of basically the whole post (small joint post, several hundred Soldiers at most) trying to relay the guidance they were given and take questions. When someone asked what they should do if they saw what looked like a male in the female barracks after hours while on CQ, they literally couldn't come up with an answer. It was hilarious. Eventually they just said "...dignity and respect" and left it at that.
Irrespective of the government being illegitimate, I don't know of anyone who wants to stay in any longer than they need to to get enough experience to get out with a job lined up (which isn't much at all in my field). Morale was already at an all time low due to the retardation of the ACFT and then covid and how poorly the "leaders" have handled both. I think everyone can see that the powers that be have no fucking clue what they're doing. The fiasco with the National Guard troops was icing on the cake. No one feels good about being in the Army anymore, at least no one I know. I think it's probably setting in that this whole organization is a fucking joke and God help us if they ever throw us into another war.
Fair enough. I am still not convinced that they would not crack down if pressured by the illegitimate fake president and his fake pentagon staff, especially if they realize that the military will not take it voluntarily. I think you are mistaken though about whether you can be forced. It will be interesting to see how or what they do, because it leaves the military in between a rock and a hard place. You can't go fight wars for foreign and ruling class interests when everyone simply leaves the military. I suspect they will coordinate it with reenlistment/re-up bonuses that are even more insane than they already are. I'm sure some would take that shot for a $100,000 bonus, even if they don't realize it's funny money. Tell me I'm wrong.
And that is how they will also shift the military towards being deployable against American slaves that don't want to follow the ruling class' orders to fight the new ISSI called "white supremacists", aka, all whites. Non-whites and especially foreign nationals/recently immigrated will have far less issues with deploying and fighting Americans and whites that demand to abide by that funny piece of paper called the Constitution that means absolutely nothing to non-whites/Europeans.
If you thought that the guidance passed down back then was funny, there's more coming down the chute even though it won't be as overt due to the abruptness of it. The pentagon is now being purged in a very overt and blatant almost cultural revolution type way and replaced with diversity.
Frankly, I think the best thing that could happen to America is if there was some real large scale war that maybe even produced a major, stunning loss that is a shock to the conscience. I have to say, unless it's fighting off people literally invading the CONUS, I would do whatever necessary not to fight since I am an anti-racist and don't want to take the opportunity from historically repressed minorities from fighting in wars. I really don't see anything to fight for anymore unless it's in direct defense, not some "we're going to destroy their country and communities and kill their people who are defending themselves from our invasion so we don't have to fight the people with no means of even getting to the USA over here." . Maybe that is the point, but it's working.
You may want to edit that part describing our duty location out of your post.
I'm not sure what you meant but you may want to start snooping around the transition assistance program offerings that aim to hook people up with jobs. Don't talk yourself down and out, as a vet you will have opportunities that are essentially created for you even in corporations and there are also programs where you can learn a trade like HVAC and solar installs, for which there is a huge demand still, while you are still in the service, that you can then build out into running your own company if you want. There are also programs to start companies and assistance even with how to get them started and get funding. I would seriously get started looking no later than one year out just to get things lined up. You can also look into joining a contractor if you want to sell your soul to the monster. There may be need to do things you are doing now or sometimes (not infrequently) just being a hot body that can learn is enough to fill positions that contractors are trying to fill to meet their contractual obligations and make money off you sitting in a chair.
I'm sure they have the authority to order me to do it, but at no point will I willingly submit to it. And if they want to physically force me to do it, then I would leave. Whether that means leave the country or what, they won't be getting that shit into my body.
Dead wrong. Reenlistment bonuses are garbage these days. The only ones who get any good bonuses are the dogshit MOS's that only a retard would want/tolerate. I got a whopping $1600. They don't have the money to throw 5 or 6 figure bonuses at people, and they never will. Even if they could they'd still be hemorrhaging people because at the end of the day, no amount of money will make people want to fight alongside trannies for a banana republic that wants them dead. At least in third world dictators they would ATTEMPT to make their troops feel appreciated.
That's a tall order, though. Doing so would easily cause in-fighting within the military. The more conservative people tend to be the trigger-pullers. You also have to factor in people who aren't really vocal who wouldn't go along with it once it becomes apparent what's going on. Saboteurs would be everywhere. Almost no one would be actually motivated to attack their own people. There's too much indoctrination to undo for that to happen any time soon.
Nah, I think that would just play into the despotic left's hand. The best thing would be for Texas to kick off a secession movement, resulting in the federal government collapsing and making room for a new government to be formed. Nothing else will get the job done.
That was a former post that I was at. No chance anyone could guess it, much less link me to it.
And I appreciate the tips. But I've got some skills that are in very high demand. If the economy goes to shit I should still be alright finding a job on the outside.
Legit rather be injected with covid + therapeutics in the same vial than take gene therapy.
Somebody please tell me when they will hang for crimes against humanity and violations of the Nuremberg Code.
Why would they? The people who would hang them are cucks
*on their payroll
Ha. I meant us
That's what happens when you are conquered from within and no, not the Chinese that are being dangled before us.
You mean required by duty and oath to hang them are cucks, cowards, and crap.
lol you still don't know that the Nuremberg stuff was all just a kangaroo court show, a facade of legitimacy by process … it was literally no different and a copy of all other communist Jewish show trials.
Justice = whatever the winner says it is.
Vae Victus.
Very true, and they not only have been winning, they have been dominating and subjugating us for a long time. Heck, they even sent the American slave whites to fight against their own interests when they were sent to fight the German slave revolt that tried to remove the abusive ruling class that dominates us all.
Only when the people do something about it.
None of the vaccines are forced. Stop trying to get me killed.
Military can require anything they want. Your body is considered government property when you're military.
Do something dumb and break a bone? They'll court martial you or bump you down a rank or two for negligently damaging government property.
What’s the source? Currently, it’s voluntary for military.
It being voluntary for the military should be a HUGE tell to how dangerous this "vaccine" is. When has a vaccine EVER been voluntary for the military?
So it’s voluntary right now due to the low amount available. They’re anticipating it being mandatory by 2023 as part of readiness requirements for deployments.
Let that sink in. 20 fucking 23! They’re going to do their best to never let this shit go away.
Covid 23 is already on the way.
Already made in the lab. Just waiting for the right time for it to leak. The human race should put out hit lists on these evil "elites" that believe they rule the planet and we are their slaves. Imagine a tv show about a gofundme type site where people can donate to a bounty for the heads of people like Gates, Soros, etc. Say there's a $20M bounty on Gates. he'd have to always have his head on a swivel. Couldn't trust his own security or anything. Every episode would be about a new villain that the world works together to eliminate. I mentioned it would just be a tv show, right?
From the start I figured this would absolutely be added to our usual rotation of yearly illness, and that the vaccine would be as well. They can take their vaccine and shove it up their ass
They would gladly shove a covid test up their ass so I don't think they'd mind shoving the vaccine up there too.
Unless we do something, none of this will ever end.
I think they aren't legally allowed to make us take it since it hasn't been tested. It would be pretty fucking dumb to give your entire military force an experimental vaccine that may end up causing extremely expensive medical issues later on, to say nothing of it incapacitating or killing them.
Re-read my post. I didn't say it was mandatory yet. And I've heard plenty of people demanding that we vaccinate the ENTIRE population, which would include the military.
If you are under 30 and healthy, the wuflu poses zero risk to you. At this point I know dozens of fit people that have gotten covid and recovered in two or three days with minimal symptoms.
Currently it's voluntary. But the military could change their minds and make it mandatory for military service members.
Yes, it’s voluntary but they are having personnel get it to do certain things. Like if you have to travel or whatnot. My brother was told if they make it mandatory for where they are making him travel, he has to get it.
Get this shit.. One of my friends is in the navy in Bahrain right now which we have no specific agreements with. He gets covid and the US GOVERNMENT SURRENDERED HIM TO BAHRAIN. He's being held indefinitely until the king basically says he can leave. The us government sent his supervisor who gave it to him to Germany where he's safe and yet he gets surrendered to a third world government. He's had to delete all social media because he's scared they're going to kill him for some shit he's said in the past. Trump would never let this happen. This is bidens America. I can't even get a straight answer as to how he's doing because if he says anything other than he's okay they may punish him. He's resigning as soon as he returns(if he returns)
Universal humiliation and compliance are their tools. Once you accept those the next steps will be even easier. Not many will wake up and break the cycle once they've gone far enough, and this injection is straight up cognitive dissonance.
Yep. "Just wear the mask, it's loosing a small battle to win the war." Seriously. Too many who call themselves patriots still wear those things.
They aren’t patriots, they are chicom faggots pretending to be.
That vaccine is going to kill our military and medical professionals just watch.
Correction, china's military. Or do you still believe that it belongs to we the people.
Can’t wait for us to start using the remote control exploding helmets too.
because they don't want them reproducing
From what I've heard from a neighbor whose kid is a career Marine is that it's the first vaccine that is OPTIONAL to receive. Apparently a lot of Marines are refusing to take it. It makes me wonder if it was mutiny that forced the armed services to make it optional or if they don't want to have a bunch of troops dying.
Forced sterilization. This fucks with your sperm count. It makes woman have miscarriages. The vaccines were created with the help of Bill Gates. A man who wants to decrease the population right now by 15%. And possibly 50% in 10 years.
Bill Gates did more to screw up computer technology than any other person. Zuckerberg and Dempsey are right up there, but Bill is The Man.
Zuckerberg didn't do shit but get a CIA program known as lifelong. And the FBI runs it because the CIA isn't supposed to operate on us soil. Hence the name Facebook inc FBI. THEY DONT HAVE TO SPY WHEN YOU OPENLY TELL THEM EVERYTHING.
I bailed mid-90's as soon as it started to come out. At that time,. I fully expected FB to last another three or four years. Obviously, Americans have been conditioned. What else could explain it? (Meaning, the absolute dependence on something you know is not good for you.)
Do we have any active duty pedes here? I've been really curious how the military had been operating last year. I imagine they were forced to comply with lockdowns, no longer being granted liberty, leave, or port calls, but this is just my speculation. I'd like to hear from someone who is actually in. I imagine it really sucks right now.
Please tell me they're not making people PT in masks. Also, how on Earth are they enforcing social distancing? That doesn't make any sense, not that the military and the biden regime especially ever cared about that. The logistics of people living in barracks, doing musters, and going to chow are simply impossible to carry out under the mandate of "social distancing".
What do you mean "All of it"? Like, I know what that phrase means, but I'm having trouble fathoming that. Does that include basic training? Are new recruits not coming in? Are there people that have been stuck in basic training as recruits for over a year? That's insane! Nobody is meant to endure that crap for that long!
When I was in, I went into the Navy as a Nuke. The prototype training facility in Ballston Spa NY went through a command wide training freeze that lasted for 4 months. This caused a huge problem across the Navy as the nukes were reaching the fleet at half speed. Eventually the training was resumed there even though the problem was never solved. FYI, they had a 2nd facility in Charleston, SC. Nukes are considered super fucking essential to the functioning of the entire Navy. Did that really stop their training for an entire fucking year? Cause they can't afford to do that.
What about people getting out? No doubt thousands of people have their EMS dates crop up last year. Are they being denied their exit from the military? Cause that will cause a whole bunch of problems as well. No way you'll have any semblance of order or discipline when a bunch of people are telling their SNCOs and officers to fuck off because they should be out by now.
Not in the military, but I'm sure the cucked panic porn crowd would just say they aren't dying because the military protocols stop them from catching it.
Completely ignoring that the positivity rate in the military is almost exactly the same as the positivity rate across the general population.
Because fuck them and fuck you, that’s why. Liberals hate us.
Even worse, 600+ commited suicide. Yet they cancelled all leave and travel because covid.
Do you have an official source that it's been zero? I know it's very non-serious for the young and healthy, but without a source I would have guessed there would be maybe a few dozen.
https://www.airforcemag.com/snapshot-dod-and-covid-19/
14 total deaths out of 2.8 million active duty/reserve military.
There are so few that I was able to find the news stories on each one and look at their ages. Just created a spreadsheet, plugged in names and ages. Most of the 14 deaths are reservists older than 50. If I remember correctly there were 2 in their 30's.
Zero under 30. Out of 1.3 million in that age group.
Let that fucking sink in.
the same reason they want all "frontline" workers to get the shot....think about it
Maybe someone high up in the military who makes these decisions gets a kickback from the vaccine manufacturer?
The 3 & 4 stars don’t want to rock the apple cart because they want to be sure to be able to get a cushy job when they retire.
Hey, don't take their self-righteousness/greater good feeling away from them they're helping the world by taking the vaccine bigot
/s just in case lol
Actually, that’s exactly what loberals need. They need to be told To shut up and then subsequently ignored. They need a good spanking frankly.
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military is always the test bed - you sign away your rights to individuality when you sign up. Least that's what happened in the 90s when I was in. You have no rights - they can pretty much do what tf they want as far as medical inoculations, etc.
Example - once they learned I had my wisdom teeth - I was scheduled the next day and they got yanked. I had no problems with my jaw or teeth, It was just 'standard practice'
Actual response from coworker: "I'm getting it now because they'll probably make it mandatory in the future."
Our vaccine response is so poor that it will take 1 year+ for me to be eligible and vaccine available to my group at the current rate. My local area is currently in the process of switching from Moderna to Pfizer vaccine. Even if you buy into the vaccine hype and aren't concerned over the reported post vaccination deaths, I'd rather wait to get a later generation vaccine and for more safety data to be available.
Captive lab rats.
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From what I hear, they decline taking them. I don’t know what’s happening now but at first they said they were not gonna be taking them
It’s easier to make money if your product is mandated by the United States government. Remember lobbyists and high ranking government operatives aren’t cheap.
Unfortunately, when it becomes mandatory, not getting it is a court martialable infraction. Probably end up in an Article 15, but still... Lame
Former military here. I have never seen a vaccine that was optional for service members
its about...whats that shit called again.....MONEY, it always has, always will be.
OK, so first off. its not zero, Sailor dies of COVID second, its not mandatory because they can not force the vaccine until it is FDA approved. currently, 70% have accepted to voluntarily take the vaccine. One Third of Service Members Offered COVID-19 Vaccines Have Refused
So 1/1,300,000. Lol. I stand corrected. I compiled my numbers back in January.
So would you say that one death in 1.3 million is a big risk? Would you take an experimental vaccine to protect against a one in a million event?
How odd.
Not trying to be THAT GUY, But we are better than the left and we should not use absolutes in arguments. "Big-Brain" lefties love to either: A. grammer correct you to win an argument, or B. highlight the 1 incorrect thing that you may state, even if you have proven 99 out of 100.
I for one, do not want to take it. keeping fingers crossed that it will not be forced to
I pulled together my spreadsheet end of January. Should have gone back and updated it.
Seems like there has been an uptick in military deaths the last four weeks or so.
If I were a betting man I would say these deaths are vaccine complications, not actual covid. I'm sure we'll get a cuomo level data slow walk on that.
The empirical data does NOT support the claims being made. There has still not been any deep coverage about what this CHY-NAH VIRUS is let alone what it does to the body other than a constant barrage of Mass Media fear mongering of the public with sparsely detailed accounts of incidents.
If COVID spreads 13 to 1 (vs the Flu's 1 to 1) then this whole planet has already been infected 5 times over. What are we all supposed to be afraid of?!
Either it's a giant hoax to gain control of the masses or they've done something sooooo bad that they can't reveal the details or the whole world collapses....
Os this virus really the air borne transmittable cancer as described by Plandemic Dr. Judy Mikovits? Because our current global response only makes sense with her points plugged into the narrative.
I dunno --- kill 'em? sterilize 'em? weaken 'em? or plant some sort of remote control device to 1984 'em so they'll obey the state rather than conscience and the United States Constitution? Just guessing.
Chinese Lung AIDS🤣🤣that's something right there
"Chinese lung AIDS" top kek
Because they can. See when you take the oath, like I did 42 years ago, you give up your liberty to decide for yourself.
Chinese Lung Aids.... fuckin KEK!
As if the military doesn't spend billions of dollars on wasteful bullshit literally all the time.
There's lobbyists whose job is to sell bullshit to the military. Lots of them. They're almost certainly greasing the palms of our politicians to make sure the deals go thru too.
I'm prepared to be medically separated/admin discharged for refusal.
So they have a “vaccine” for a virus they have never isolated in the lab? Uh, huh. Want to buy some nice beachfront property in AZ?
They vaccinate the shit out of the military, like little testing rats. Sickening (literally), look at the health issues soldiers have.
Cause they are vaccinated for everything else? If there is a vaccine you get it so you don't get SICK during deployment.
Nobody died but half the unit on the flu meds and shiverring in their sleeping bag shuts down a whole division in no time.
You get rabies shots too what do you think the chance is you'll be bitten by a bat during deployment?
Fatality rate for rabies is several orders of magnitude higher than Wuflu for healthy individuals. Covid is a joke if you're under 65 and in good shape. That's not hyperbole. Just go look at the age adjusted breakdowns of death.
Are you seriously larping that young healthy individuals have to worry about covid? Because that's retarded.
The chance of getting rabies is near 0. You have to be bitten by an infected animal to get it. Yet we still do it. Whooping cough is super rare. We still give em booster shots.
You just don't want a sick soldier on a mission if you can prevent it.
You're looking at just over 2k deaths in the entire US "involving" covid for folks under the age of 30 and that's on the CDC's website. To demand the youth sacrifice their lives and futures for the elderly with 81+% of all deaths being folks 65 and older is absolutely evil and insane
Just another loyalty test...
Why would any sane person think that Democrats are sane.
They are clearly a collection of people with great cunning, and overwhelmingly powerful Dark Triad Traits.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/beyond-heroes-and-villains/201606/naming-evil-dark-triad-tetrad-malignant-narcissism
The vaccine is for nothing other than a population control device, which gate's infirmated, to control population growth. It has a fertile solution in it... research is such a wonderful tool.
the military has always been the guinea pigs for vaccines, they should not be required to take any shots they don't want, they get more fucked up by the shots, oh that's right the military voted for Trump they are trying to kill them, so china can move in
Same with the bums.... but also side note military gets vaxx for many things civilians don't ie anthrax n what not, granted WuFlu is different n should b a choice <3 MAGA2021
DEAR INCOMPETENT MILITARY INTELLIGENCE FUCKHEADS: HERE YOU GO.
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/foi-reveals-ontario-ministry-of-health-has-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-by-anyone-anywhere-ever/
https://davidicke.com/2020/11/29/must-read-dr-genevieve-briand-ms-in-applied-economics-assistant-program-director-at-johns-hopkins-covid-19-has-not-increased-the-death-rate-no-because-there-is-no-virus-and-deaths-a/
https://pastelink.net/1z94s
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/10/26/the-missing-virus-answering-critics-objections/
https://drtomcowan.com/only-poisoned-monkey-kidney-cells-grew-the-virus/
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0516_article
https://summit.news/2020/11/18/top-pathologist-claims-coronavirus-is-the-greatest-hoax-ever-perpetrated-on-an-unsuspecting-public/
https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Pfizer-Chief-Science-Officer-Second-Wave-Based-on-Fake-Data-of-False-Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/banned-video-former-pfizer-chief-science-officer-dr-michaelhttps://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
https://www.infowars.com/posts/pfizer-ceo-dumps-62-of-his-stock-on-covid-vaccine-announcement/
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/11/27/johns-hopkins-study-saying-covid-19-has-relatively-no-effect-on-deaths-in-u-s-deleted-after-publication-n1178930
https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/
https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19