All big names including Trumps did. It's been down most of an hour. Some form of ddos attack. The bitcoin bit is close to what Twitter had happen. Whoever did it ( probably Google the fuckers ) has been sitting on it awhile likely.
My dream featured hack expert frens that could get some receipts. Would be nicer if, rather than Google it turned up some trace to Federal involvement. I know nothing about the mechanics of this, so... dreaming.
Hijacking the top comment to let people know that Gab is back online. They took it down temporarily out of an excess of caution because of the account hijackings. Only about 20 accounts were affected and they fixed the vulnerability that allowed it to happen. There's a big post by Andrew Torba on Gab about it if you want to read it for yourself.
Gab was the first social network I started to feel engaged with. Every other one I dabbled with felt like I was just going along with the ride, a toxic ride.
I hope they apply some CENSORSHIP to weed out any content with leftist jargons, from "reproductive justice" to "chest milk". Draw a list of those terms, and if any of them is detected in any content, then you can't post that content unless you speak in a proper way. I hate censorship, but you gotta stop them from weaponizing the language.
Yes it can. They control the language, they control the mind. Gotta raise awareness of those buzzwords. Sometimes you see somebody telling a good story and making good points, they may even say a lot of good words about Trump, but as soon as they blurt out one of those jargons or start addressing any grievance of a focus group, then you know who they really are.
Those megacorporations, especially the big tech oligarchs, have grown into a monster, more powerful than some sovereign nations. If they really wanna ban somebody, and since they are under pressure from both inside and outside, they always think it’s okay, Jan 6 just gave them an excuse to do what they had always wanted to do, so why bother to reason with them?
Is this going to be deadly to Gab? They relied on donations to try and increase their servers recently. They won't be able to get those after a hack. They won't be able to use other services to get donations, and theirs is insecure. They probably won't be able to get a loan.
I'm assuming most people do not know how to get it to them securely ATM. Torba did post a PO box for this on Gab a lot. Guessing for most online donations they will face substantial expenses in order to repair everything and get things secure and accessible. Just thinking that if they lack the capital for this, it could be very detrimental.
As a sidenote on sending something by post, I recall Scott Adams saying whenever the post office knew he was the PO Box owner they would steal his stuff because they thought it'd be valuable, and the same occurred for artists he knew.
Sounds very fake to me. $1 billion is really not in "VC" territory. And I don't think any VC or private equity firm would offer anywhere near that much for Gab. The value is absolutely not there.
That's because it probably wasn't $1 billion. I don't remember the email containing specific details, because his post strongly seemed to suggest it was the Mercers.
He gets a lot of suckers believing that the company is really worth a lot of money. He's hoping some will actually offer him some money, even though it would be a tiny fraction of a billion. Seriously, if I had a million to invest, and he offered me 100% of the company for that amount, I wouldn't take it. Trump could come along a couple of months later and launch a competitor that could quickly drop the value of Gab to near zero and put it completely out of business.
Most likely. If they got posting access to notable accounts then most likely they had DB access which they probably have a dump of now. Expect account details and passwords to be dropped soon.
I don't recall that happening with Twitter, which also had notable accounts accessed. I'm curious, what would be the reason to release? The thing that comes to mind is either they blackmail Gab about that, or they sell it to someone who has an interest in taking Gab down. Otherwise no reason for it comes to mind unless there is a hacker who is acting out of personal animosity towards Gab (or paid by someone who is?), rather than trying to scam people for Bitcoin.
Is it difficult to close those vulnerabilities or something? The link implied they were aware, and they apparently had someone blogging about how to exfiltrate them. Suggests great carelessness, unless I'm missing something. Hard to believe given how, on top of the blog describing how to hack them, they know how many enemies they'd have. Sheesh.
You understand correctly, however it's a rookie mistake on Gabs part, always always sanitise user inputs. I think they need to slow down on feature releases, TV, chat, soundcloud clone and go back and secure the foundation code.
Why...? I don't know that at all. I really doubt it in fact.
I really don't want to have any frendly fire, so I hope it's not taken this way, but I really don't see how. I wish you are right, though. As it is, I've seen quite a lot of discussion backing Gab's technical inexpertise level and ineptitude pretty hard. Things in this thread suggest it's true.
Just don't see why we should venerate him to such a degree like this. To do what you said you'd probably need to have amazing talent in hacking, and/or a lot of wealth. Not sure he has either at this moment, not counting some based hacker coming to his aid. He did a good thing by being publicly anti-Leftie and giving a platform to people, but good deeds have no bearing on cybersecurity. Nor does roasting lefties make someone capable in that field (in fact roasting lefties is the easiest thing to do).
His credibility comes from his foresight into the types of censorship in big tech years ago, to the point that he invested in self hosted tech stack that was not dependent on big tech infrastructure. So far this has been proven to be solid.
Technical competencies aside, the man is a devout Christian and comes across to those who use Gab and see his posts to be someone with integrity.
If this were true, then you can imagine that competitors in silicon Valley and the political establishment will view Gab as enablement of dissenting views which they will do everything in their power to bring down.
Torba believes that years ago when Gab first started Google approached and hired a Chinese hacker company to infiltrate and spam the website with porn. The reason being is that when Gab was trying to get on the play store, Google would always deny them and cite there was just too much pornography on the website to make it legitimate for their play store. After that he knew exactly who and what he was dealing with so he just completely stopped.
iTunes was a bit more upfront. They pretty much just said unless he's going to censor people actively that there's no way they will let Gab on iTunes. Obviously Torba told them to shove it.
People forget but reddit it self was the original free speech site. They made a false charge on swartz and killed him in jail. Then turned Reddit in to the biggest censorship pit the internet has ever seen.
Torba's hope is redundancy, not "being the first" to make his own free speech site against the deep state. Reddit, vid.me (the real youtube killer that was taken off), bitchute (the second one), and voat all tried to take down the deep state and their owners got comp'ed and the site taken over.
It's seriously fucking depressing. I just want to say what's on my mind. I mean at this point my feeling is what's life worth living if I'm not allowed to discuss what's on my mind? I can be jailed for posting memes now. Is it worth fighting if you know you're going to be crushed?
LOLDONGS, no. It never was. Reddit was a Digg clone from day one, and there were other forums that preceded them in positioning themselves as free speech advocates (such as the shithole of retarded teenagers that was &TOTSE).
and voat all tried to take down the deep state
It did no such thing. Voat was one guy's academic project that accidentally got shitloads of traffic when r/fatpeoplehate (among others) got shut down on Reddit. He had no big plans, and never really put much effort into it. It quickly got overrun with assholes who just spammed up every thread with racist crap, pissed away what good will he had, and ultimately took it down.
In before someone gets the idea that the final solution to the Karen question involves donning hockey mask like Lord Humungus and besieging their iniquitous citadels in the wastelands of the Internet.
At least one version of Gab Social was available openly on their GitLab instance. So it's not like u/--1-- needed access to their code.
The problem is that the CFAA is pretty broad, and just hitting APIs without permission to look for potentially problematic holes could net you jail time. And it has in the past. This is an area you have to be really careful about, even if you're just poking at public endpoints. Heck, even writing a crawler could (and has) violate(d) the CFAA.
If there were issues, then u/--1-- could ask for further details on the code they're actually running on their servers since I doubt public Gab Social is reflective of it in its entirety.
The reason this is a worry is because they forked from Mastodon quite some time ago, and may not have kept up with upstream security fixes.
Ironically that's one of the cases that came to mind when I read your comments and the guarded language you were using. I knew immediately what you were thinking. I don't think most people are aware of the legal minefield it is.
As did my buddy's employer.
I don't claim to know the details.
But based on how they've been cocky morons grave dancing Parler, this was bound to happen. As much as Torba likes to shill his religion on it, he must've missed the part where pride comes before the fall and he should wonder if God is keeping his ego in check.
And I don't even say this as someone salty at Parler. I have a post history advising people to avoid Parler.
It just sucks that we on the right have to choose between cocky morons, RINOs, and big tech.
Not on every level. Their branding is really good. The name is way better than Gab and they don't scare away normies with their big mouth like Torba does.
Bongino's more than just a pundit, IMO. He's also a legit journalist in the sense that he does research and produces original content. His books are really great definitive sources on the topic of Spygate.
Two syllable name is more appealing than one. Parler is a name that sounds intelligent/classy and the P logo is clean and professional. Gab sounds like trash tier slang. I like their "substance" much better than Parler don't get me wrong, but the branding is a big issue for them. Gab with Parler's branding and a CEO that keeps his opinions to himself (unless they pertain to the mission of free speech) would be a powerful competitor to twitter. I hope they get their act together. If it were me I would try to merge with Parler to get the best of both worlds. At least merge the back end, if they wanted to both exist with different "filters" on the same shared data I think that would be a decent business model too. I would then extend that to other areas like video and photo sharing (youtube, instagram). For max competition I'd follow the same model - one backend with an API to build multiple front end competitors.
If our side were serious about winning this is what we would pursue.
2 vs. 1 syllable. No contest. Most successful brands are 2 syllables. People could spell it twiter, youtoob, etc. too and those aren't major issues. The image around the company makes a bigger difference for adoption, Parler has better connotations than Gab, simple as that.
Nonsense. I'm a marketer. That's not a thing. Success is not determined by a syllable. Milton Bradley, Coca Cola, IBM, Microsoft, Hewlett Packard, Dell, Amazon.
"Parlay" is a gay term.
The image around the company makes a bigger difference for adoption, Parler
has better connotations than Gab, simple as that.
Then we need to work to fix that, since Parler is clearly cucked. They're already censoring people.
Parler is the RINO version of Gab.
If you want to give Gab better connotations, then make it happen. Don't just give up and go to the Fox News of Social Media.
Pretty sure it is. 2 or 3 syllables are preferred, with stress on the latter syllables. Longer names are preferred for perception but four syllables is too long (people end up abbreviating or avoid saying the name). It's not everything obviously and companies can be still successful with a suboptimal brand name... but I mentioned it here because I noticed it. Gab sounds trashy to me. When I saw content creators link to their Parler with the P logo and everything (like they would Twitter) it looked much more appealing.
since Parler is clearly cucked
Yes I agree. I am not using Parler. But Gab overcorrects for Parler's failures, that's what I'm trying to point out. Torba has gone too far. IMO he should step down to a different role and have someone else take over the face of the company. Focus on free speech for everyone, and that's it. They should act like they don't want to take sides, just want to be a platform for everyone. Simple. And make the name something less trashy. Otherwise Gab will just be a niche platform. It's possible if someone like Trump steps in they could use that as an opportunity to reform their image and branding. That's what I would do.
He didn’t ask for it. He’s asking for a parallel site that he can try to hack. Then he’ll give that info to the mods so they can make changes to the code if necessary.
If he was an actual hacker he would just hack this site without giving a fuck.
Why the language, friend? I would suggest toning it down a bit.
"What are your credentials that .win would trust you to audit the code?" - this gets the same point across without the unnecessarily confrontational language.
Afterall: who the fuck are you and why the fuck does this person need to cred himself to you?
We need to fight back against these companies that are threatening the very democracy of this country, we are at a very critical stage in this country. All these oligarchs are shutting down every Avenue of free speech and creating a communist country by going after the conservatives. It is unbelievable how they are banning every story that does not fit the leftist narrative , banning conservatives speakers, businesses and individuals into oblivion. If we don’t band together and fight back as a group by boycotting all these tyrants businesses and platforms, we have no hope for the greatest country on earth. God bless this great country.
To be clear, regardless of your opinion of his character, this is a blatantly open attack on an American who built his business without help from big brother.
Gabs story is the prime example of American small business owners, and he’s being attacked for making his own thing.
If we don’t hit back then we are all cowards who deserve the horrors of Communism, because we are the generation that are allowing it to grow without objection.
My black hat is about to come out the drawer, and I suggest you do the same.
From now on, starting with gab, when THEY put their boots on our necks, we’ll grab around and bring those fuckers down to our level and meet them eye to eye.
So basically NSA or CIA now firmly back in deep state hands just walked over and pulled the plug out. Maybe it will come back up, maybe not. We can all hope it does.
It’s hard to tell at this point, there are multiple things envolved in failover and as of now there are too many unknowns, any statements from sources outside the gab team would be speculation.
Dissenter Browser concern:
Although it is affiliated with gab social, this doesn’t mean they share hosting locations - infrastructure - or databases.
A good way to learn is to see who host “Dissenter.com” ( or whatever the url is ) and look for any correlation.
Safe bet - Clear your cash on dissenter browser and honestly if it is hacked then it’s by the people who own any other browser you’d use so you risk wouldn’t be increased.
Gab.com’s future:
Typically, tech companies that host their volume of traffic would have a Backup site - and rollover to it for continuity.
Gabs growth has been insane in size and the rate of growth is even crazier, it’d be challenging for any company to manage this kind of demand.
with that consideration it is unlikely they had time / resources for continuity. Worst case = they were hacked at a level where all accounts ( even admins ) were compromised and locked out while bad actors ravaged their coding and network.
Power off everything they own, air gap equipment, and locally reverse engineer the attack, load back up configs with mitigation’s in place, put it all back online and make everyone change credentials.
No, they are not gone for good. They’ll likely come back stronger than they were. Andrew has that resilience in his heart, the same one most gabbers have. It can not be denied
Thanks for the Dissenter info. I cleared cache just to be safe also switched to Brave. And actually it works better on the few number of sites I've used so far. A little faster and some video sights didn't have a working preview on Dissenter...
About Dissenter safety, I remember hearing a critique maybe 8 months ago. Something about Dissenter storing your IP info and associating it with you, as part of their option to comment on any webpage. I ignored this safety issue, and don't know if true, just putting it out and hoping someone more informed can comment. That comment feature seemed like a good idea. You'd never need to register at many of the nonsense sites, and they couldn't censor you. Alas, it never worked for me once and I forgot about it until now.
Torba has specifically said multiple times that they control their own servers. I don't know how much clearer it needs to be. Who do you think control's Gab's servers? You think they're decentralized? They're all 100% controlled by Gab.
When will others wake up and see we can no longer win when the deck is stacked against us? The elections are rigged, Big Tech, Hollywood and hivemind control the media and the Internet. It's time to begin the process of creating a new country. It's time tbaf those who commit crimes to block free speech, who indoctrinate, poison and molest our children be tried and convicted of their crimes.
Oh well that's wonderful. Gotta have lefties working diligently to attack their opposition to stifle communication. No eyes on that!
But God forbid if a bunch of us on here were to orchestrate a huge attack against Facebook or Twatter. Hell, I'll probably have the FBI crash through my window as soon as I hit send on this comment.
Friendly reminder anybody who ever worked for the Greek government had their shit hacked a few years ago. Including all info from TS clearance interviews and any and all info from the entire SF-86 process.
Im going to make a thread about this tmrw probably.
My bet is they are being hacked by the NSA/CIA. Because last week Parler was exposed as not being for free speech after Milo tested them. So Parler is establishment. The only one still standing is Gab and this cabal that control communications in the USA must kill them off.
Sounds like a guess to me. CIA is mostly an intelligence agency on the civilian side of the IC. NSA is on the military side and has a relationship with USCYBERCOM. Neither CIA nor NSA is allowed to act inside CONUS except in some limited cases like Sec 702 - that's why the recent Solar Winds hack was conducted by Russia from servers hosted in the US. NSA/Cybercom people are the best in the world, and if they had acted, I seriously doubt that you would ever know or be able to prove anything. Highly doubtful they would target a platform that seems to be mostly about posting mostly generic stuff and trying to grow followers by stunts like trains of users on chain messages.
Vault 7 was a CIA program to hack computers and leave "Russian" traces on them so that an investigator would blame Russia. Sounds like your CIA is doing a lot of hacking.
All big names including Trumps did. It's been down most of an hour. Some form of ddos attack. The bitcoin bit is close to what Twitter had happen. Whoever did it ( probably Google the fuckers ) has been sitting on it awhile likely.
If this is traceable to Google or other leftofascists, that becomes a good thing. Imagine the PR hit and massive lawsuit potential.
I keep admonishing people not to engage in demoralizing sarcasm, though the sentiment is exactly correct.
So, if we can't trust the feds to look into it, what would pedes do?
The chans love a good mystery. What data can we get
Do we have people here capable of looking in to this? I bet we do!
I bet the chans would be interested, given their well known feelings about censorship, and their penchant for conspiracy-theory hunts.
sage wisdom
time for some good ol' weaponized autism
I agree, the doomer sarcasm is digging our own grave.
How much do chans care about Christian alternatives to Twatter?
Let me try.
Hey FBI! The Gab hackers have their garage door pull rope tied like a noose!
My dream featured hack expert frens that could get some receipts. Would be nicer if, rather than Google it turned up some trace to Federal involvement. I know nothing about the mechanics of this, so... dreaming.
If it doesn't involve nooses or fake pipe bombs those toads are clueless...
You don't need "authorities" to get on anything in a civil case.
They have a verified Twitter account and it reads like Lincoln Project
Like that's gonna do anything....
Yeah, I can't wait for Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes to do a full hour on how terrible it was that Gab got hacked.
I’m sure it will be reported on, NOT!
Well if I was going to try a scam like this, doing it all at one time is about the most fucking retarded way you could possibly do it.....
This happened to twitter last year as well got even bigger names.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Twitter_bitcoin_scam
Hijacking the top comment to let people know that Gab is back online. They took it down temporarily out of an excess of caution because of the account hijackings. Only about 20 accounts were affected and they fixed the vulnerability that allowed it to happen. There's a big post by Andrew Torba on Gab about it if you want to read it for yourself.
I wonder how difficult it would be to do a coordinated ddos without infecting any computers?
Just tell all patriots to put the FB homepage up and have a program spam f5 or whatever works.
Alright good info, keep your brain working on how to fuck with them in the background though.
Apes together stronk
One word.
Security.
Get into network security and your day will come. Might not be for a long time but it will come.
This just confirms Liberals are the terrorists.
100% this
The entire site just went down ...
Was probably pulled.
Conservatives can’t have nice things
Gab was the first social network I started to feel engaged with. Every other one I dabbled with felt like I was just going along with the ride, a toxic ride.
I love the sense of community there. Lots of nice folks on gab.
I make a point to reply to a few folks posting in the introduce yourself group now and then, make them feel at home.
Me too! See, that's what I'm talking about! #gabfam
same but I do it on the /fit/ group
I hope they apply some CENSORSHIP to weed out any content with leftist jargons, from "reproductive justice" to "chest milk". Draw a list of those terms, and if any of them is detected in any content, then you can't post that content unless you speak in a proper way. I hate censorship, but you gotta stop them from weaponizing the language.
I don't know if it's necessary. In a free speech platform, that garbage can't survive. It can only survive when opposing views are shut down.
Yes it can. They control the language, they control the mind. Gotta raise awareness of those buzzwords. Sometimes you see somebody telling a good story and making good points, they may even say a lot of good words about Trump, but as soon as they blurt out one of those jargons or start addressing any grievance of a focus group, then you know who they really are.
no dude if they join we'll finally be able to make fun of them
Those megacorporations, especially the big tech oligarchs, have grown into a monster, more powerful than some sovereign nations. If they really wanna ban somebody, and since they are under pressure from both inside and outside, they always think it’s okay, Jan 6 just gave them an excuse to do what they had always wanted to do, so why bother to reason with them?
It happened last year to Obama, Hillary, Apple, and many others on Twitter. Mostly leftists.
Still, fuck Twitter.
I’m just waiting for the day this happens .win
Again
DNS is now resolving for me.
Server 7 was an inside job. Al-CIA-duh spotted in the datacenter!
Can confirm
Is this going to be deadly to Gab? They relied on donations to try and increase their servers recently. They won't be able to get those after a hack. They won't be able to use other services to get donations, and theirs is insecure. They probably won't be able to get a loan.
Sure they will. In fact I'll donate more once this issue is resolved.
I'm assuming most people do not know how to get it to them securely ATM. Torba did post a PO box for this on Gab a lot. Guessing for most online donations they will face substantial expenses in order to repair everything and get things secure and accessible. Just thinking that if they lack the capital for this, it could be very detrimental. As a sidenote on sending something by post, I recall Scott Adams saying whenever the post office knew he was the PO Box owner they would steal his stuff because they thought it'd be valuable, and the same occurred for artists he knew.
Torba had a VC firm toss a $1b offer his way recently, to which he said "nope"
Won't be hard for him to generate revenue.
Site is partway back up already. Kinda. Sorta.
What's the name of the VC firm?
He wouldn'd say, but posted a censored version of the email.
Did not seem fake or ghey.
Sounds very fake to me. $1 billion is really not in "VC" territory. And I don't think any VC or private equity firm would offer anywhere near that much for Gab. The value is absolutely not there.
That's because it probably wasn't $1 billion. I don't remember the email containing specific details, because his post strongly seemed to suggest it was the Mercers.
So probably $250 mil or so. Not unreasonable.
I think he just said it was a billion-dollar vc firm, not offering a billion.
Fake or not, what does Torba get from posting that? Not worth sharing unless he’s actually considering it.
He gets a lot of suckers believing that the company is really worth a lot of money. He's hoping some will actually offer him some money, even though it would be a tiny fraction of a billion. Seriously, if I had a million to invest, and he offered me 100% of the company for that amount, I wouldn't take it. Trump could come along a couple of months later and launch a competitor that could quickly drop the value of Gab to near zero and put it completely out of business.
Most likely. If they got posting access to notable accounts then most likely they had DB access which they probably have a dump of now. Expect account details and passwords to be dropped soon.
I don't recall that happening with Twitter, which also had notable accounts accessed. I'm curious, what would be the reason to release? The thing that comes to mind is either they blackmail Gab about that, or they sell it to someone who has an interest in taking Gab down. Otherwise no reason for it comes to mind unless there is a hacker who is acting out of personal animosity towards Gab (or paid by someone who is?), rather than trying to scam people for Bitcoin.
Two words: Chyna.
The greatest threat to china right now is free speech in America.
Looking at the flaw and how open it was I'd bet my last dollar the database has been exfiltrated.
https://archive.is/stEiO
Is it difficult to close those vulnerabilities or something? The link implied they were aware, and they apparently had someone blogging about how to exfiltrate them. Suggests great carelessness, unless I'm missing something. Hard to believe given how, on top of the blog describing how to hack them, they know how many enemies they'd have. Sheesh.
You understand correctly, however it's a rookie mistake on Gabs part, always always sanitise user inputs. I think they need to slow down on feature releases, TV, chat, soundcloud clone and go back and secure the foundation code.
You just know Andrew Torba is going deep and finding out exactly who is behind this. Scorched fucking earth.
Why...? I don't know that at all. I really doubt it in fact.
I really don't want to have any frendly fire, so I hope it's not taken this way, but I really don't see how. I wish you are right, though. As it is, I've seen quite a lot of discussion backing Gab's technical inexpertise level and ineptitude pretty hard. Things in this thread suggest it's true.
Just don't see why we should venerate him to such a degree like this. To do what you said you'd probably need to have amazing talent in hacking, and/or a lot of wealth. Not sure he has either at this moment, not counting some based hacker coming to his aid. He did a good thing by being publicly anti-Leftie and giving a platform to people, but good deeds have no bearing on cybersecurity. Nor does roasting lefties make someone capable in that field (in fact roasting lefties is the easiest thing to do).
His credibility comes from his foresight into the types of censorship in big tech years ago, to the point that he invested in self hosted tech stack that was not dependent on big tech infrastructure. So far this has been proven to be solid.
Technical competencies aside, the man is a devout Christian and comes across to those who use Gab and see his posts to be someone with integrity.
If this were true, then you can imagine that competitors in silicon Valley and the political establishment will view Gab as enablement of dissenting views which they will do everything in their power to bring down.
There goes my $1.25 in Bitcoin
Kek
The internet has become a dystopian wasteland where warlord big tech companies just do whatever they like and nobody stops them.
Torba believes that years ago when Gab first started Google approached and hired a Chinese hacker company to infiltrate and spam the website with porn. The reason being is that when Gab was trying to get on the play store, Google would always deny them and cite there was just too much pornography on the website to make it legitimate for their play store. After that he knew exactly who and what he was dealing with so he just completely stopped.
iTunes was a bit more upfront. They pretty much just said unless he's going to censor people actively that there's no way they will let Gab on iTunes. Obviously Torba told them to shove it.
People forget but reddit it self was the original free speech site. They made a false charge on swartz and killed him in jail. Then turned Reddit in to the biggest censorship pit the internet has ever seen.
Torba's hope is redundancy, not "being the first" to make his own free speech site against the deep state. Reddit, vid.me (the real youtube killer that was taken off), bitchute (the second one), and voat all tried to take down the deep state and their owners got comp'ed and the site taken over.
It's seriously fucking depressing. I just want to say what's on my mind. I mean at this point my feeling is what's life worth living if I'm not allowed to discuss what's on my mind? I can be jailed for posting memes now. Is it worth fighting if you know you're going to be crushed?
Don't be defeatist
Keep going, they are hemorrhaging
I don't believe he was falsely accused - he admitted that he did what they accused him of, and it was not legal what he did.
However, the punishment they sought over the act was substantially more significant than it needed to be or should have been.
LOLDONGS, no. It never was. Reddit was a Digg clone from day one, and there were other forums that preceded them in positioning themselves as free speech advocates (such as the shithole of retarded teenagers that was &TOTSE).
It did no such thing. Voat was one guy's academic project that accidentally got shitloads of traffic when r/fatpeoplehate (among others) got shut down on Reddit. He had no big plans, and never really put much effort into it. It quickly got overrun with assholes who just spammed up every thread with racist crap, pissed away what good will he had, and ultimately took it down.
In before someone gets the idea that the final solution to the Karen question involves donning hockey mask like Lord Humungus and besieging their iniquitous citadels in the wastelands of the Internet.
Nice reference, I just made this meme a couple of months ago myself. https://imgur.com/XrZVqqM
I’m sure Andrew will attack Parler again once this is all over to get even with them. That’s been his strategy so far.
They're just a few guys, with a massive target on them. This is not surprising, and I wish them luck in getting back up.
People who are downvoting you don't understand what an audit is
Sounds familiar
There are different kinds of audits, and source-code level audits are another type of audit.
But would external hackers need any extra permission? They get the same public tools we all get, right?
At least one version of Gab Social was available openly on their GitLab instance. So it's not like u/--1-- needed access to their code.
The problem is that the CFAA is pretty broad, and just hitting APIs without permission to look for potentially problematic holes could net you jail time. And it has in the past. This is an area you have to be really careful about, even if you're just poking at public endpoints. Heck, even writing a crawler could (and has) violate(d) the CFAA.
If there were issues, then u/--1-- could ask for further details on the code they're actually running on their servers since I doubt public Gab Social is reflective of it in its entirety.
The reason this is a worry is because they forked from Mastodon quite some time ago, and may not have kept up with upstream security fixes.
Ironically that's one of the cases that came to mind when I read your comments and the guarded language you were using. I knew immediately what you were thinking. I don't think most people are aware of the legal minefield it is.
As did my buddy's employer. I don't claim to know the details. But based on how they've been cocky morons grave dancing Parler, this was bound to happen. As much as Torba likes to shill his religion on it, he must've missed the part where pride comes before the fall and he should wonder if God is keeping his ego in check. And I don't even say this as someone salty at Parler. I have a post history advising people to avoid Parler. It just sucks that we on the right have to choose between cocky morons, RINOs, and big tech.
Not on every level. Their branding is really good. The name is way better than Gab and they don't scare away normies with their big mouth like Torba does.
Bongino is legit as fuck. He was one of the first people on the Obamagate scandal from the very very beginning.
Bongino's more than just a pundit, IMO. He's also a legit journalist in the sense that he does research and produces original content. His books are really great definitive sources on the topic of Spygate.
Two syllable name is more appealing than one. Parler is a name that sounds intelligent/classy and the P logo is clean and professional. Gab sounds like trash tier slang. I like their "substance" much better than Parler don't get me wrong, but the branding is a big issue for them. Gab with Parler's branding and a CEO that keeps his opinions to himself (unless they pertain to the mission of free speech) would be a powerful competitor to twitter. I hope they get their act together. If it were me I would try to merge with Parler to get the best of both worlds. At least merge the back end, if they wanted to both exist with different "filters" on the same shared data I think that would be a decent business model too. I would then extend that to other areas like video and photo sharing (youtube, instagram). For max competition I'd follow the same model - one backend with an API to build multiple front end competitors.
If our side were serious about winning this is what we would pursue.
Their branding and design is absolutely terrible. I cringe, whenever I hear someone say they're going to post a "parlay".
Not to mention people always mix it up for "parlor".
2 vs. 1 syllable. No contest. Most successful brands are 2 syllables. People could spell it twiter, youtoob, etc. too and those aren't major issues. The image around the company makes a bigger difference for adoption, Parler has better connotations than Gab, simple as that.
Nonsense. I'm a marketer. That's not a thing. Success is not determined by a syllable. Milton Bradley, Coca Cola, IBM, Microsoft, Hewlett Packard, Dell, Amazon.
"Parlay" is a gay term.
Then we need to work to fix that, since Parler is clearly cucked. They're already censoring people.
Parler is the RINO version of Gab.
If you want to give Gab better connotations, then make it happen. Don't just give up and go to the Fox News of Social Media.
Pretty sure it is. 2 or 3 syllables are preferred, with stress on the latter syllables. Longer names are preferred for perception but four syllables is too long (people end up abbreviating or avoid saying the name). It's not everything obviously and companies can be still successful with a suboptimal brand name... but I mentioned it here because I noticed it. Gab sounds trashy to me. When I saw content creators link to their Parler with the P logo and everything (like they would Twitter) it looked much more appealing.
Yes I agree. I am not using Parler. But Gab overcorrects for Parler's failures, that's what I'm trying to point out. Torba has gone too far. IMO he should step down to a different role and have someone else take over the face of the company. Focus on free speech for everyone, and that's it. They should act like they don't want to take sides, just want to be a platform for everyone. Simple. And make the name something less trashy. Otherwise Gab will just be a niche platform. It's possible if someone like Trump steps in they could use that as an opportunity to reform their image and branding. That's what I would do.
Isn't Gab open source?
These admins or Gab's Admins?
They don’t know what they’re talking about, ignore.
There’s long history of exactly that happening.
White hats get permission first. It is a matter of ethics. Very simple concept.
They’re a white hat. They play by the rules.
Oh, I remember you now.
Never mind. Feel free to block me. That would actually be ideal.
He didn’t ask for it. He’s asking for a parallel site that he can try to hack. Then he’ll give that info to the mods so they can make changes to the code if necessary.
If he was an actual hacker he would just hack this site without giving a fuck.
technically he is a hacker, they test websites to try and break into them
crackers do it illegally but ehh semantics at this point
he's an "ethical" hacker
Or economics or politics or academia...
Why the language, friend? I would suggest toning it down a bit.
"What are your credentials that .win would trust you to audit the code?" - this gets the same point across without the unnecessarily confrontational language.
Afterall: who the fuck are you and why the fuck does this person need to cred himself to you?
See how that feels? It's just dumb. Stop.
It was his audit, Mr. Krabs! He was number --1--!
Looks to be a lot worse - the @getongab Twitter account (which existed yesterday) no longer exists.
Access to the Twitter account suggests a far worse hack than an admin dashboard.
Yes
Thanks Patriot
I love you, fren. ?7
Someone keylogged an admin account owner for a couple of days or got access to their terminal. Game over.
Source?
Apologies, I’m suggesting two things (hence “or”) I think that could have happened rather than saying I know what happened.
Appreciate the clarification.
Spearphishing an admin seems the mostly likely attack vector.
Holy smokes, that doesn't look good
I thought getongab was gone weeks ago, did they bring it back?
When was that?
We need to fight back against these companies that are threatening the very democracy of this country, we are at a very critical stage in this country. All these oligarchs are shutting down every Avenue of free speech and creating a communist country by going after the conservatives. It is unbelievable how they are banning every story that does not fit the leftist narrative , banning conservatives speakers, businesses and individuals into oblivion. If we don’t band together and fight back as a group by boycotting all these tyrants businesses and platforms, we have no hope for the greatest country on earth. God bless this great country.
You thinkin what I’m thinkin?
To be clear, regardless of your opinion of his character, this is a blatantly open attack on an American who built his business without help from big brother.
Gabs story is the prime example of American small business owners, and he’s being attacked for making his own thing.
If we don’t hit back then we are all cowards who deserve the horrors of Communism, because we are the generation that are allowing it to grow without objection.
My black hat is about to come out the drawer, and I suggest you do the same.
From now on, starting with gab, when THEY put their boots on our necks, we’ll grab around and bring those fuckers down to our level and meet them eye to eye.
Game Fucking On.
So basically NSA or CIA now firmly back in deep state hands just walked over and pulled the plug out. Maybe it will come back up, maybe not. We can all hope it does.
They couldn't take down Gab how they took down Parler so they decided to hack it instead.
YIKES Luckily I was prepared for DNS service to be taken down and had their IPs stored.
https://104.16.122.96/
https://104.16.121.96/
The server (or whoever it is) that is currently sitting between users and gab.com servers has an invalid certificate.
They’ve either had their servers wiped, their certificates revoked, or currently have a “Man in the middle” attack going on.
This is NOT a DDoS - Stop flapping ignorance of things you know nothing about.
Second question... Is Dissenter (their browser) still safe to use?
It’s hard to tell at this point, there are multiple things envolved in failover and as of now there are too many unknowns, any statements from sources outside the gab team would be speculation.
Dissenter Browser concern:
Although it is affiliated with gab social, this doesn’t mean they share hosting locations - infrastructure - or databases.
A good way to learn is to see who host “Dissenter.com” ( or whatever the url is ) and look for any correlation.
Safe bet - Clear your cash on dissenter browser and honestly if it is hacked then it’s by the people who own any other browser you’d use so you risk wouldn’t be increased.
Gab.com’s future:
Typically, tech companies that host their volume of traffic would have a Backup site - and rollover to it for continuity.
Gabs growth has been insane in size and the rate of growth is even crazier, it’d be challenging for any company to manage this kind of demand.
with that consideration it is unlikely they had time / resources for continuity. Worst case = they were hacked at a level where all accounts ( even admins ) were compromised and locked out while bad actors ravaged their coding and network.
Power off everything they own, air gap equipment, and locally reverse engineer the attack, load back up configs with mitigation’s in place, put it all back online and make everyone change credentials.
No, they are not gone for good. They’ll likely come back stronger than they were. Andrew has that resilience in his heart, the same one most gabbers have. It can not be denied
Thanks for the Dissenter info. I cleared cache just to be safe also switched to Brave. And actually it works better on the few number of sites I've used so far. A little faster and some video sights didn't have a working preview on Dissenter...
About Dissenter safety, I remember hearing a critique maybe 8 months ago. Something about Dissenter storing your IP info and associating it with you, as part of their option to comment on any webpage. I ignored this safety issue, and don't know if true, just putting it out and hoping someone more informed can comment. That comment feature seemed like a good idea. You'd never need to register at many of the nonsense sites, and they couldn't censor you. Alas, it never worked for me once and I forgot about it until now.
There is no such thing as a private IP
EVURYTHING WORX AGAIN! BACK TO BASHING LIBERALS WITHOUT A HALL MONITOR! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
....it ain't much, but its honest work.
Actually it appears the contract with whoever was hosting their DNS was set to expire tomorrow 2-20-21.
Records here.?? https://dnsdblookup.com/gab.com/
This could be an in-house thing. That’s doubtful they’d do it without notice and on a Friday night.
I get 403 forbidden cloudfare when I click on those links.
So..... Odds that gab is gone for good?
Maybe we should wait for more information before making assumptions.
Well don't you have egg on your face now?
Also, Gab isn't decentralized. Idk who said that, but they're wrong.
They're literally not decentralized. I don't know what to tell you. They are a part of the Mastodon network. The Mastodon network is decentralized.
Torba has specifically said multiple times that they control their own servers. I don't know how much clearer it needs to be. Who do you think control's Gab's servers? You think they're decentralized? They're all 100% controlled by Gab.
The DNS record for www.gab.com has been removed. However, tv.gab.com is still up..
Is this an attack where the attackers got the account passwords or do you think the attackers wrote data directly to gabs database?
Yes
If gab’s dev team has their shit together they’re not storing your password in their DB. They’d store a cryptographic hash of your password.
This is also why you have to reset your forgotten password pretty much everywhere instead of asking tech support to look it up
No
Maybe so
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT FREE SPEECH SITES RETAIN GOODWILL CAPITAL
When will others wake up and see we can no longer win when the deck is stacked against us? The elections are rigged, Big Tech, Hollywood and hivemind control the media and the Internet. It's time to begin the process of creating a new country. It's time tbaf those who commit crimes to block free speech, who indoctrinate, poison and molest our children be tried and convicted of their crimes.
some leftist posted this a few days ago about an exploit found on gab https://twitter.com/kubeworm/status/1361861463741239297
Oh well that's wonderful. Gotta have lefties working diligently to attack their opposition to stifle communication. No eyes on that!
But God forbid if a bunch of us on here were to orchestrate a huge attack against Facebook or Twatter. Hell, I'll probably have the FBI crash through my window as soon as I hit send on this comment.
So much for responsible disclosure..... Bet if it were a leftie site he would have told them in private first.
Probably some other hacker standing on this hacker's shoulder. That's how it usually goes.
Kubeworm appears biased but white hat.
Friendly reminder anybody who ever worked for the Greek government had their shit hacked a few years ago. Including all info from TS clearance interviews and any and all info from the entire SF-86 process.
Im going to make a thread about this tmrw probably.
Greek government? That happened to people who worked for the US government during the Obama administration. Chinese did it and Obama did nothing.
Gab is back up. Here is the story : https://news.gab.com/2021/02/19/gabs-february-19th-outage/
Woot woot!
A DDoS attack isn't a "security" issue necessarily - plenty of hardened sites can be susceptible to such types of attacks.
Let's see if there's been a data breach before we start assuming GAB has been "hacked"
A user account being compromised - that's hardly a problem with the platform.
Don't fucking jump to conclusions just yet.
Is it just one account? They could've just got lucky and guessed the pass.
These hackers are really bad at knowing their target.
They haven't made any money off this hack.
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3DjemruRRvunHTHxNJbwoRCzCFWagw6vo2
It's down hard
My bet is they are being hacked by the NSA/CIA. Because last week Parler was exposed as not being for free speech after Milo tested them. So Parler is establishment. The only one still standing is Gab and this cabal that control communications in the USA must kill them off.
Sounds like a guess to me. CIA is mostly an intelligence agency on the civilian side of the IC. NSA is on the military side and has a relationship with USCYBERCOM. Neither CIA nor NSA is allowed to act inside CONUS except in some limited cases like Sec 702 - that's why the recent Solar Winds hack was conducted by Russia from servers hosted in the US. NSA/Cybercom people are the best in the world, and if they had acted, I seriously doubt that you would ever know or be able to prove anything. Highly doubtful they would target a platform that seems to be mostly about posting mostly generic stuff and trying to grow followers by stunts like trains of users on chain messages.
Vault 7 was a CIA program to hack computers and leave "Russian" traces on them so that an investigator would blame Russia. Sounds like your CIA is doing a lot of hacking.
Update
It's now showing Cloudfare info on the home page.
https://news.gab.com/2021/02/19/gabs-february-19th-outage/
Was wondering what the heck happened. C.W. 2 starts at or in the electronixsphere.
They've gone completely dark.
Dammit...
GAB is down last 2 hours, yup.
You know you are becoming popular when people either ddos the shit outta you, or "hack" you.
Ps, people use term hack very liberally
Why can’t we have nice things ☹️
I noticed some of the "I am selling bitcoin" accounts and other things on gab. Found this morning to be offline. Was wondering what had happened. him.