And the rush to pass a $1.9 trillion "Covid relief package"? They have to pass it before Covid goes away on it's own, because the package has very little to do with Covid itself.
is there statistical evidence that these vaccines work? One way they test vaccines is the "challenge" method, where you infect a control group and a vaccinated group and see what happens. Did Pfizer do that? How is this vaccine efficacy proven?
its so sad that people are actually taking it. The normal approach to vaccines is a 10 year long process. Instead we have 2-3 in 6 months. And one uses gene manipulation [mRNA] instead of a weakened virus. Its terrifying how this is accepted.
They got everyone compliant with masks. Then they got the leftovers compliant after January 6. No more protesting allowed. Shut up or get banned. If you call election fraud or disagree they come for you, your job, call you a white nationalist racist bigot.
Crispr editing vaccines are still around. Crispr Therapeutics has a few in stage 2 trials, and there are a few others with them -- Intellia and Editas as examples. The problem is, that style of vaccine can be super dangerous, and they're much less effective in older people. The vaccines currently in trial are for pretty awful hereditary diseases, like sickle cell or amyloid polyneuropathy.
Using CRISPR for a virus was a stupid idea, and I'm fairly certain it didn't go far at all.
certainly not without long term testing. like i mentioned typical vaccines take 10 years to develop and to get approved. But since everyone and their mother banned HCQ because that would prevent the vaccines from being used
Yes. My elderly mother was complaining hoe difficult it has been in MN to get the vaccine. Thank goodness! I told her don’t worry about it, it could do more harm than good.
My brother is in the military. He took it. Hopefully it will be okay. I guess we can't worry too much about what we can't control. I know I plan to let everyone else get it first and see how it plays out.
I'm a bit more militant about my stance. Over my dead body will they put an experimental treatment in me. EVER!
If they try to put travel restrictions on me, I'll fly out of Tijuana. If they block that I'll drive or sail to where I want to go. No VAX for me ever!
All numbers are either manipulated or fake. Easy to time vaccine efficacy with seasonal flu decline, especially when you've added more cases as a buffer.
What the hell do these numbers mean? How is it more effective at stopping serious disease than it is at preventing death? And what samples are these percentages from? People who are exposed to the virus? Or just people who have gotten the vaccine? Because I do not understand at all how they come to these conclusions.
Just to give you an idea. With a 98% case survival you come out to roughly 6.6 million deaths if nobody did anything and everyone got the virus.
With a 99% vaccine protection you come to 66'000 deaths total.
If every single person gets infected and the people that want to get vaccinated we'd only suffer the annual flu death count in the worst case scenario.
Given that about 3 times as many people actually were infected but just didn't know we're looking at more like 10'000 deaths in reality. This is what the entire world shutdown over. Why do you think China stopped caring about their disease after only a few months?
Interesting thing I saw the other day. The site I check the numbers on says they are going to stop collecting data on March 7. Guess pandemic over in a couple weeks, but don't worry. My governor says counties can set their own rules in May, but the state mask mandate will stay in effect.
They love the masks. I just read an article about how they now have a mask certification program. Before you just bought a mask not knowing if it was approved. Now, they will be certifying masks. Um, what? How long do you freaks want to wear masks?
Lol when you think COVID was a real thing or a major threat. It served it's purpose, allowed them to cheat the election, it's usefulness is gone.
New super strain of COVID coming, probably an fueled by the catalyst that is being injected into people's bodies now that is being sold as a "vaccine".
Health care workers are biggest vector of spread. All vaccinated...cases nosedive. Besides that half of everyone has had it already. When I get it, no mask anymore.
I'd argue that it was rushed out due to demand. No one will force anyone to take it currently, but soon if the side effects remain minimal it will be like a flu shot.
Discussion at all hands to mandate at my employer. Tying anything to earning a living is by force. I prefer my own DNA to program my ribosomes to make proteins if you don't mind.
If you're the kind that doesn't agree with childhood vaccinations as well, then can't really argue. You can home school and work places that don't enforce vaccines.
Its not a vaccine. It is mrna that programs your ribosomes to make whatever proteins they programmed it to make. It is not FDA approved. This isn't shingles or pneumonia vaccine. I've had both of those.
It is force and if you don't understand that you are stupid af.
Never in my 40 years in the work force, except when I was in the Marines, had my employer say jack shit about my vaccine status. That's HIPAA stuff. I guess the laws don't mean dick now.
For an illness no more dangerous than the flu. If you believe the propaganda and the complete psyops this thing is, you are, again, stupid as fuck bordering on potato head status.
Suck a bag of biden and sheep dicks. Btw, u are stupid af.
Yes. It's an mrna vaccine. There are several types of vaccines. What is your understanding of what the mrna does exactly in compared to say a live virus vaccine regarding said proteins, ribosomes, or antibodies for that matter?
Also, did you go to school? Because you were then forced to get vaccinated by your parents probably. As for your job forcing vaccines, I can't argue with that. Most healthcare has adopted in this, so you're right if they are forcing you, you have the option to not take the vaccine as in my hospital, but you will be asked to release vaccination records if you want to work for them and re up to date on the other vaccinations aside from the covid-19 mrna vaccine. I'd agree anything outside healthcare or I guess schools is abnormal to request vaccination records. Maybe military would require it too.
Its not a vaccine, its more like gene therapy. Vaccines don't have mrna programmed with codons never seem in nature.
Pasteur type vaccines are ok, gene therapy for a 99.8 percent survivalable flu is idiotic in the extreme.
I could give af who made the decision. It was wrong, so was shutting down the country or listening to Fauci. He has serious conflicts of interest.
As soon as you start questioning it, you get banned or fact checked by BS. They say "trust the science". If you aren't skeptical and can't question it - that ain't science. People lose their mind over GMO corn, which goes through the digestive track and no peptides like rna could survive that, same people are a ok with using gene therapy technology to reprogram their ribosomes to make proteins that don't occur in nature.
As soon as you ban someone from questioning something that is a huge red flag.
You go ahead and take it. If you get some weird autoimmune disease that cripples you in a few years you can't get relief from pfizer or moderna. You can fill out a government application and see how much they can get you. Ever applied for disability?
AFAIAC, this is a Darwin thing, and anyone who takes that vaccine now has failed the test. Also libtards are pushing this, so if they lose the Darwin test voluntarily that's better than them failing it against me.
And the rush to pass a $1.9 trillion "Covid relief package"? They have to pass it before Covid goes away on it's own, because the package has very little to do with Covid itself.
What percentage goes to Americans, of any bills/ideas under consideration?
It should be 100% of our taxes going to Americans, for a Covid relief bill. Why would it not be 100%?
If it was the same as last time. Less than 10%
That's significantly less than 100%. At least.
It’s insane how much crap for foreign countries is included in our “Covid relief”
All viruses eventually burn themselves out. There never was a vaccine for the Spanish Flu.
Exactly, along with the 3 dozen other coronaviruses.
Spanish flu didn't kill many people. Most died of bacteria and poor nutrition. We don't have those kinds of problems on that kind of scale now.
We just have evil dictator governors exposing people on purpose and refusing to let doctors prescribe lifesaving medicine
Did bacteria and poor nutrition go away in 1922?
is there statistical evidence that these vaccines work? One way they test vaccines is the "challenge" method, where you infect a control group and a vaccinated group and see what happens. Did Pfizer do that? How is this vaccine efficacy proven?
It's pretty much theoretical due to the lack of testing.
Sign up here to be a lab rat.
its so sad that people are actually taking it. The normal approach to vaccines is a 10 year long process. Instead we have 2-3 in 6 months. And one uses gene manipulation [mRNA] instead of a weakened virus. Its terrifying how this is accepted.
It's an "experimental treatment", not a "vaccine".
Scary stuff.
Even scarier is how compliant some people are.
They got everyone compliant with masks. Then they got the leftovers compliant after January 6. No more protesting allowed. Shut up or get banned. If you call election fraud or disagree they come for you, your job, call you a white nationalist racist bigot.
Which is why I've gotten more vociferous by the day. I'm almost "cancel-proof". Almost.....
Dude, the treatments they've tried with CRISPR killed the test victims. I'm pretty sure they stopped using that shit.
Crispr editing vaccines are still around. Crispr Therapeutics has a few in stage 2 trials, and there are a few others with them -- Intellia and Editas as examples. The problem is, that style of vaccine can be super dangerous, and they're much less effective in older people. The vaccines currently in trial are for pretty awful hereditary diseases, like sickle cell or amyloid polyneuropathy.
Using CRISPR for a virus was a stupid idea, and I'm fairly certain it didn't go far at all.
certainly not without long term testing. like i mentioned typical vaccines take 10 years to develop and to get approved. But since everyone and their mother banned HCQ because that would prevent the vaccines from being used
More than 2-3. There are at least 10. Even Thailand is now making their own vaccine in a matter of months
Yes. My elderly mother was complaining hoe difficult it has been in MN to get the vaccine. Thank goodness! I told her don’t worry about it, it could do more harm than good.
My parents and sister have all taken the "experimental treatment". I'm more than concerned.
My brother is in the military. He took it. Hopefully it will be okay. I guess we can't worry too much about what we can't control. I know I plan to let everyone else get it first and see how it plays out.
I'm a bit more militant about my stance. Over my dead body will they put an experimental treatment in me. EVER!
If they try to put travel restrictions on me, I'll fly out of Tijuana. If they block that I'll drive or sail to where I want to go. No VAX for me ever!
I love your attitude! :)
And I love yours.
We don't give in. We don't submit, blink, bend, or kneel. We are Americans and we will remain free.
I'm celebrating because I spent the whole day red-pilling a new Patriot. Maybe 2, because his wife is almost there.
Covid has been in a straight and linear nose dive since Jan 20. 100% manufactured crisis.
Biden said he thinks we could have a normal Christmas next year.
Little does he know, my family had a normal Christmas this year.
Hope you're wrong. I've got 3 family members who have had their 2nd dose.
I made sure they knew the risks beforehand, and they are free to make their own decisions, but I'm not happy about it.
Me too :/
Prayers.
https://patriots.win/p/11SJjpkiht/literally-one-hour-after-biden-t/c/
The WHO also changed the standard of testing ONE DAY after the inauguration...
This data is useless
https://patriots.win/p/11SKBwaQB1/after-440000-americans-are-dead-/c/
I wonder if the way new cases are measured by the govt has anything to do with that.
All numbers are either manipulated or fake. Easy to time vaccine efficacy with seasonal flu decline, especially when you've added more cases as a buffer.
Plus WHO changed way of determining positivity the day Joe was installed. Two positive tests required and must be showing symptoms.
And lowered the PCR cycling
I thought I saved a post that had a picture of the before and after...but apparently not
What the hell do these numbers mean? How is it more effective at stopping serious disease than it is at preventing death? And what samples are these percentages from? People who are exposed to the virus? Or just people who have gotten the vaccine? Because I do not understand at all how they come to these conclusions.
98.9% death prevention? Getting actual covid is over 99% death prevention.
LOL. It’s 99% effective at preventing death while not taking it is 99% effective at preventing death.
A new, more dangerous, mutated-version of the Kung Flu will make an appearance over and over again.
I am guessing we will claim herd immunity over COVID-19 and COVID-21 shows up this Fall.
During election years, certainly
Link - https://twitter.com/AF632/status/1363242239372140545
SCAMdemic
LARPocolypse
They will use the growing number of "variants" to justify continued lockdowns and masking
Texas cases will drop like a rock for last week. Too frozen for people to get tested. Can't fake positives if people aren't getting tested.
Just to give you an idea. With a 98% case survival you come out to roughly 6.6 million deaths if nobody did anything and everyone got the virus.
With a 99% vaccine protection you come to 66'000 deaths total.
If every single person gets infected and the people that want to get vaccinated we'd only suffer the annual flu death count in the worst case scenario.
Given that about 3 times as many people actually were infected but just didn't know we're looking at more like 10'000 deaths in reality. This is what the entire world shutdown over. Why do you think China stopped caring about their disease after only a few months?
China stopped caring because they effectively bamboozled everyone. Remember their videos of people dying in the streets with Covid? Hmmm...
I don’t understand how you can say the vaccine has those rates when the actual virus has those rates?? It’s so confusing
Interesting thing I saw the other day. The site I check the numbers on says they are going to stop collecting data on March 7. Guess pandemic over in a couple weeks, but don't worry. My governor says counties can set their own rules in May, but the state mask mandate will stay in effect.
They love the masks. I just read an article about how they now have a mask certification program. Before you just bought a mask not knowing if it was approved. Now, they will be certifying masks. Um, what? How long do you freaks want to wear masks?
It's all Biden, surely.
I'm waiting to see what happens when Hunter boofs it
MIRACLES, unbelievable!
Literally not believable.
How are they measuring prevention of infection?? Seems like you’d have to have a group of people you know have been exposed.
Lol when you think COVID was a real thing or a major threat. It served it's purpose, allowed them to cheat the election, it's usefulness is gone.
New super strain of COVID coming, probably an fueled by the catalyst that is being injected into people's bodies now that is being sold as a "vaccine".
Health care workers are biggest vector of spread. All vaccinated...cases nosedive. Besides that half of everyone has had it already. When I get it, no mask anymore.
Same thing happened with polio.
That or a new disease is imported
Am MD. I seriously don't see why we hate the vaccine so much that Trump worked hard to rush out.
For me it is the fact that it was rushed out, and uses methods never used in humans before. Seems like we are the long term trials.
I'd argue that it was rushed out due to demand. No one will force anyone to take it currently, but soon if the side effects remain minimal it will be like a flu shot.
Discussion at all hands to mandate at my employer. Tying anything to earning a living is by force. I prefer my own DNA to program my ribosomes to make proteins if you don't mind.
If you're the kind that doesn't agree with childhood vaccinations as well, then can't really argue. You can home school and work places that don't enforce vaccines.
Its not a vaccine. It is mrna that programs your ribosomes to make whatever proteins they programmed it to make. It is not FDA approved. This isn't shingles or pneumonia vaccine. I've had both of those.
It is force and if you don't understand that you are stupid af.
Never in my 40 years in the work force, except when I was in the Marines, had my employer say jack shit about my vaccine status. That's HIPAA stuff. I guess the laws don't mean dick now.
For an illness no more dangerous than the flu. If you believe the propaganda and the complete psyops this thing is, you are, again, stupid as fuck bordering on potato head status.
Suck a bag of biden and sheep dicks. Btw, u are stupid af.
Yes. It's an mrna vaccine. There are several types of vaccines. What is your understanding of what the mrna does exactly in compared to say a live virus vaccine regarding said proteins, ribosomes, or antibodies for that matter? Also, did you go to school? Because you were then forced to get vaccinated by your parents probably. As for your job forcing vaccines, I can't argue with that. Most healthcare has adopted in this, so you're right if they are forcing you, you have the option to not take the vaccine as in my hospital, but you will be asked to release vaccination records if you want to work for them and re up to date on the other vaccinations aside from the covid-19 mrna vaccine. I'd agree anything outside healthcare or I guess schools is abnormal to request vaccination records. Maybe military would require it too.
So you think Trump is bad for rushing this?
Its not a vaccine, its more like gene therapy. Vaccines don't have mrna programmed with codons never seem in nature.
Pasteur type vaccines are ok, gene therapy for a 99.8 percent survivalable flu is idiotic in the extreme.
I could give af who made the decision. It was wrong, so was shutting down the country or listening to Fauci. He has serious conflicts of interest.
As soon as you start questioning it, you get banned or fact checked by BS. They say "trust the science". If you aren't skeptical and can't question it - that ain't science. People lose their mind over GMO corn, which goes through the digestive track and no peptides like rna could survive that, same people are a ok with using gene therapy technology to reprogram their ribosomes to make proteins that don't occur in nature.
As soon as you ban someone from questioning something that is a huge red flag.
You go ahead and take it. If you get some weird autoimmune disease that cripples you in a few years you can't get relief from pfizer or moderna. You can fill out a government application and see how much they can get you. Ever applied for disability?
AFAIAC, this is a Darwin thing, and anyone who takes that vaccine now has failed the test. Also libtards are pushing this, so if they lose the Darwin test voluntarily that's better than them failing it against me.