Maybe it's the Canadian in me, but I don't have a problem with any qualified, motivated, and hard working immigrant coming to my country who genuinely wants to adopt and integrate into Canadian culture. Those guys are great. I just hate the "refugees" who have no skills, no qualifications, and not even a single intention of integrating into society and instead form their own little ghettos and hate my country and culture.
EDIT: Wow, how did this thread end up getting stickied. Fucking pathetic...
This is why we have a problem with immigration in this country. People like you come in and screech the “welcome everyone!” bullshti without thinking about how many people are being imported from socialist loving countries and voting accordingly.
I'm originally from a socialist-loving country, and I've been here screaming from the top of my lungs "This is bullshit! The totalitarians are taking over!"
People who like their socialism generally stay in their socialist countries. I'm here because I don't like socialism, and I know a bunch of other immigrants like that.
I do know immigrants who are crazy leftists. But I also know born Americans who are crazy leftists.
The 2020 election wasn't lost because the people overwhelmingly turned out for Biden. It's not about natives vs. immigrants, it's about the people vs. the oligarchy. The oligarchs needed to steal the election, and blatantly.
That’s great that you are doing the right thing. Since we’re going to use the anecdotal to make a point, I’ll point to that cunt from Germany I saw from an old Crowder “Change my Mind” segment. She believes in hate speech laws. And you know she votes accordingly.
Yes, some Americans are crazy leftists. We cants do anything about them. We can, however, quit importing more commie lovers.
Think about it. Who controls immigration? The govt. if recent times hasn’t proven to you that the govt is NOT looking out for your best interests, and hasnt for some time now, you are at a level of naive that I csnt fix.
I don't see how any of the shit we are in was created by legal immigration, or could be fixed by stopping it.
I don't mind sensible restrictions on legal immigration which already exist. But the problems we have now are not voted into existence by "damn immigrants", they are being forced down our throats by a globalist elite.
Rupert Murdoch - born in Melbourne, Australia. Here's your commie - he runs Fox News.
Donald Newhouse - born in New York.
James C. Kennedy - born in Hawaii.
Jeff Bezos - born in Albuquerque.
John W. Henry - born in Quincy, Illinois.
Sheldon Adelson (now dead) - born in Boston.
Joe Mansueto - born in Munster, Indiana.
Mortimer Zuckerman - born in Montreal, Canada. Second immigrant in the list!
Stanley Hubbard - can't find where born, but is son of a born American.
Patrick Soon-Shiong - born in South Africa. Third immigrant!
Carlos Slim - born and lives in Mexico. Not an immigrant. Largest shareholder in the New York Times.
Warren Buffett - born in Omaha, Nebraska.
Legal immigration to the US is already pretty hard, except through marriage. How are further restrictions on that going to stop the globalist elite? Carlos Slim doesn't even have to step foot in the US to own the New York Times, or influence their editorial policy.
So you are an immigrant who wants to tell native Americans how they should run their country? If your not a walking talking example of why we should stop ALL immigration, I dont know what is.
Yeah, I do have a preference of how the country is run. I prefer that the reasons why I immigrated are kept alive and flourish. I would like a country to exist in the world that has individualist values. I don't want China to be boss here. I don't want to pay fealty to Xi Jinping. I don't want Americans to be treated like China treats Uyghurs. I want us to show a path for them, not for them to conquer us.
Maybe that's morally bad, yeah? Maybe you should kick me out for this? This uppity wanting to uphold what is unique about America?
And yes, I am a liberal. Congrats. I was never hiding them.
But I'm not a leftist or a communist or an SJW.
There's nothing wrong with controlled immigration of well meaning and hard working individuals from wherever they want to come from. The problem is the illegal immigrants, the unskilled "refugees" and the uncontrolled radical extremism and people who have no intention of integrating into our culture.
I’m generally fine with this kind of thinking but in practice race and country of origin is a great proxy for values.
I don’t mind Mexicans or Asians or Africans or whoever if they work hard and don’t buy into leftist nonsense. Hell, I like them. In practice, most of the Mexicans the left is importing for votes all vote for the leftist bullshit in return, so it’s a complicated topic.
I know hard working Mexicans that share traditional American values. I also know ones that came here for free shit and vote for leftist nonsense. The ones I know that are the former are admittedly smaller in number because of how many people leftists try to import.
From my experience, local culture is more indicative of the immigrant than their skin colour. For instance a black immigrant to Canada from Jamaica or Nigeria is much more likely in my experience to be productive and willing to adopt Canadian culture than an urban Detroit black American is... Even if America as a whole is culturally more similar to Canada than Nigeria or Jamaica.
The problem isn't skin color. The problem is values and beliefs. My family is immigrant, but we love the Constitution, we're Christian (we were before we came to America), and we genuinely believe America is the greatest nation. We're strictly capitalist, and full-heartedly acknowledge the good Western Civilization (particularly America) has done to the world. This doesn't mean we've thrown away our own culture or beliefs at all nor do we pretend America has a perfect history, but we have certainly adopted many American values.
I don't think there's anything wrong with immigrants that become American while adopting American values. The problem is you have a bunch of people who come in for jobs and then complain about everything in America. These people hate America and everything we stand for.
I will say, I think your POV is a bit racist. You view "our people" as whites only instead of Americans. I don't hold it against you though, you most likely have never met any immigrant who truly identifies as an American.
What do you mean, "let our people die"? Is anyone killing anyone, or preventing reproduction based on skin color?
The problem is not the proportion of a skin color in the population, it's that the politics of the country do not even represent the majority as it is. The people of the country overwhelmingly turned out for Trump. Is he president? No. Why not? Because of immigrants?
And then, what makes a person "your person"? Are they "your people" if they were born here and their color is white, but they stand for media gaslighting, censorship, deplatforming, election theft, banning of guns, giving hormones to kids before puberty, and the foisting of critical race theory onto employees and schoolchildren?
Who's your ally? The person who looks like you, or the person who shares your values? If you choose the person who looks like you, let me introduce you to Biden!
Maybe it's the Canadian in me, but I don't have a problem with any qualified, motivated, and hard working immigrant coming to my country who genuinely wants to adopt and integrate into Canadian culture. Those guys are great. I just hate the "refugees" who have no skills, no qualifications, and not even a single intention of integrating into society and instead form their own little ghettos and hate my country and culture.
EDIT: Wow, how did this thread end up getting stickied. Fucking pathetic...
I have a big problem with it. We need to clean up our own backyard first before we worry about anyone else.
This is why we have a problem with immigration in this country. People like you come in and screech the “welcome everyone!” bullshti without thinking about how many people are being imported from socialist loving countries and voting accordingly.
I'm originally from a socialist-loving country, and I've been here screaming from the top of my lungs "This is bullshit! The totalitarians are taking over!"
People who like their socialism generally stay in their socialist countries. I'm here because I don't like socialism, and I know a bunch of other immigrants like that.
I do know immigrants who are crazy leftists. But I also know born Americans who are crazy leftists.
The 2020 election wasn't lost because the people overwhelmingly turned out for Biden. It's not about natives vs. immigrants, it's about the people vs. the oligarchy. The oligarchs needed to steal the election, and blatantly.
That’s great that you are doing the right thing. Since we’re going to use the anecdotal to make a point, I’ll point to that cunt from Germany I saw from an old Crowder “Change my Mind” segment. She believes in hate speech laws. And you know she votes accordingly.
Yes, some Americans are crazy leftists. We cants do anything about them. We can, however, quit importing more commie lovers.
Think about it. Who controls immigration? The govt. if recent times hasn’t proven to you that the govt is NOT looking out for your best interests, and hasnt for some time now, you are at a level of naive that I csnt fix.
I don't see how any of the shit we are in was created by legal immigration, or could be fixed by stopping it.
I don't mind sensible restrictions on legal immigration which already exist. But the problems we have now are not voted into existence by "damn immigrants", they are being forced down our throats by a globalist elite.
Here, 15 billionaires who own America's news companies, article from 2016. Most or all of these are election-stealing globalists:
Michael Bloomberg - born in Boston.
Rupert Murdoch - born in Melbourne, Australia. Here's your commie - he runs Fox News.
Donald Newhouse - born in New York.
James C. Kennedy - born in Hawaii.
Jeff Bezos - born in Albuquerque.
John W. Henry - born in Quincy, Illinois.
Sheldon Adelson (now dead) - born in Boston.
Joe Mansueto - born in Munster, Indiana.
Mortimer Zuckerman - born in Montreal, Canada. Second immigrant in the list!
Stanley Hubbard - can't find where born, but is son of a born American.
Patrick Soon-Shiong - born in South Africa. Third immigrant!
Carlos Slim - born and lives in Mexico. Not an immigrant. Largest shareholder in the New York Times.
Warren Buffett - born in Omaha, Nebraska.
Legal immigration to the US is already pretty hard, except through marriage. How are further restrictions on that going to stop the globalist elite? Carlos Slim doesn't even have to step foot in the US to own the New York Times, or influence their editorial policy.
So you are an immigrant who wants to tell native Americans how they should run their country? If your not a walking talking example of why we should stop ALL immigration, I dont know what is.
Yeah, I do have a preference of how the country is run. I prefer that the reasons why I immigrated are kept alive and flourish. I would like a country to exist in the world that has individualist values. I don't want China to be boss here. I don't want to pay fealty to Xi Jinping. I don't want Americans to be treated like China treats Uyghurs. I want us to show a path for them, not for them to conquer us.
Maybe that's morally bad, yeah? Maybe you should kick me out for this? This uppity wanting to uphold what is unique about America?
Read his post again
I never said "Welcome everyone!"
I very specifically did not say that.
Fuck off racist.
I didn’t say anything g about race. Thank you for exposing your liberal leanings
This entire topic is about race.
And yes, I am a liberal. Congrats. I was never hiding them.
But I'm not a leftist or a communist or an SJW.
There's nothing wrong with controlled immigration of well meaning and hard working individuals from wherever they want to come from. The problem is the illegal immigrants, the unskilled "refugees" and the uncontrolled radical extremism and people who have no intention of integrating into our culture.
I'm with ya dude. I'll take those hardworking immigrants over these worthless leftists.
Even if these immigrants come in and vote overwhelmingly democrat?
"My people" is whoever wants to contribute to a strong and free country. I could not care less whether they are white black purple or green.
Fuck off with your racism.
Culture > skin colour.
Damn you're going to follow faux racism into your own genocide.
Culture is a reflection of genetics, not an independent overlay on top of it. There is no such thing as magic dirt.
I’m generally fine with this kind of thinking but in practice race and country of origin is a great proxy for values.
I don’t mind Mexicans or Asians or Africans or whoever if they work hard and don’t buy into leftist nonsense. Hell, I like them. In practice, most of the Mexicans the left is importing for votes all vote for the leftist bullshit in return, so it’s a complicated topic.
I know hard working Mexicans that share traditional American values. I also know ones that came here for free shit and vote for leftist nonsense. The ones I know that are the former are admittedly smaller in number because of how many people leftists try to import.
From my experience, local culture is more indicative of the immigrant than their skin colour. For instance a black immigrant to Canada from Jamaica or Nigeria is much more likely in my experience to be productive and willing to adopt Canadian culture than an urban Detroit black American is... Even if America as a whole is culturally more similar to Canada than Nigeria or Jamaica.
I'm not anti-white. You're anti-everyone else.
The problem isn't skin color. The problem is values and beliefs. My family is immigrant, but we love the Constitution, we're Christian (we were before we came to America), and we genuinely believe America is the greatest nation. We're strictly capitalist, and full-heartedly acknowledge the good Western Civilization (particularly America) has done to the world. This doesn't mean we've thrown away our own culture or beliefs at all nor do we pretend America has a perfect history, but we have certainly adopted many American values.
I don't think there's anything wrong with immigrants that become American while adopting American values. The problem is you have a bunch of people who come in for jobs and then complain about everything in America. These people hate America and everything we stand for.
I will say, I think your POV is a bit racist. You view "our people" as whites only instead of Americans. I don't hold it against you though, you most likely have never met any immigrant who truly identifies as an American.
What do you mean, "let our people die"? Is anyone killing anyone, or preventing reproduction based on skin color?
The problem is not the proportion of a skin color in the population, it's that the politics of the country do not even represent the majority as it is. The people of the country overwhelmingly turned out for Trump. Is he president? No. Why not? Because of immigrants?
And then, what makes a person "your person"? Are they "your people" if they were born here and their color is white, but they stand for media gaslighting, censorship, deplatforming, election theft, banning of guns, giving hormones to kids before puberty, and the foisting of critical race theory onto employees and schoolchildren?
Who's your ally? The person who looks like you, or the person who shares your values? If you choose the person who looks like you, let me introduce you to Biden!