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GWNorthman 67 points ago +69 / -2

Seceding is the peaceful solution. Hope it happens.

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NullifyAndSecede 51 points ago +53 / -2

Secession is a peaceful act, and the feds will shoot us in the back for attempting it and decry US as the violent ones.

The State is an institution that has its every action fundamentally rooted in violence, yet it will accuse those who resist its aggression as behaving violently.

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yudsfpbc 14 points ago +14 / -0

Whoever shoots first loses.

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Hanging_Chad 14 points ago +14 / -0

Is that on PornHub?

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Lord_Kek 6 points ago +7 / -1

It's okay to coom

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bardeg 5 points ago +5 / -0

That is true...the Confederacy shot first at Fort Sumpter and that did not end well for them.

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yudsfpbc -1 points ago +3 / -4

And remember -- Fort Sumter was just the last event in a long chain of abuses. The federal troops were diligent in trying to resolve the situation peacefully, and they were even in talks with congress about how to handle the secession when it happened.

I think it's very telling that Abraham Lincoln and republican leaders in congress proposed amending the constitution to protect slavery in the South forever and ever. They wanted to give the South everything they wanted, but the South was belligerent and simply wanted to fight a war.

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PraiseBeToScience 14 points ago +14 / -0

lol

Secession isn't my plan for peace, it's my plan for war.

An internal civil war would be a long drawn out pointless insurgency. Without battle lines and objectives, it would just be a few years of sporadic bombings and shootings like during the Troubles in Ireland... spoilers: the IRA lost because you really can't win that kind of war.

With secession we would have organization, resources, objectives, and battle lines. All those gold blobs at the end of that chart? Those are the targets for the bombs. Sending millions of souls screaming into oblivion. Our justice accounts in all balance.

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MaoHadOnly1Testicle 15 points ago +15 / -0

Europede here (fmr USSR).

Civil war is a better option than communism.

Civil war will be over in a few years. When commies show up, they don't want to leave, they have to be kicked out (see East Prussia aka Kaliningrad).

The Eastern Bloc countries are STILL trying to recover from communism. Alcoholism, govt corruption, bribery, etc. When you've spent your whole life in a corrupt system, it's hard to unlearn it.