Ok. So she said shit you and I disagree with. I acknowledged that. President Trump let Mnuchin, Pelosi and McConnell parlay the COVID shutdown into the largest straight transfer of my tax dollars to multinational corporation in the history of the United States. Shit happens. I disagree on things with many people here and many people in public office, including some I admire. Do you actually want 435 people saying the same thing?
So far as the “casting call” thing. I’ve discussed this with people here before. The right/Republicans do the same thing. When it’s people we like we say, “dedicated political professionals knew this seat was an opportunity for someone with X, Y and Z values. They met with many inspiring, bright activists and Person X demonstrated their talent and passion.” The real problem with this is that the barrier to entry is so high for most federal seats you or I can’t just say, “I’m running for Congress”, raise a few thousand bucks for signs and literature and then hit the doors to talk to your neighbors. We have to plucked from obscurity by people with connections to money, power and influence.
“Highborn”?Maybe? Is that a problem now? I can think of another NYC native who was certainly way more “highborn” than her with whom this site has exactly zero problems with. All I know for certain is that it is true she went from an ‘elite’ NYC public school to BU. Her family prioritized education and she is more successful than her parents. Strip away her name and TDW would be praising it as a fine example of the American Dream.
My only point here is that we must accept some amount of ideological and stylistic diversity in a country this large (well, we don’t have to, we could reject the idea we should be one country under a federal government, but that isn’t the conversation we are having.)
We just need to be consistent. Is she some airhead who ditzed her way into a congressional seat she doesn’t deserve and is unfit for? or is she some socialist Manchurian Candidate ushering in Biden’s (who she was very critical of) New World Order.
And she has some definite upsides.
She happens to be the only Democratic elected official in the New York delegation calling for Cuomo to be investigated for his handling of COVID in nursing homes.
Her legislation won’t pass. Despite what that paranoiacs here say, Joe Biden has very explicitly rejected her Green New Deal. So if we are going to have a handful of moonbat Dems from very lefty districts, I’ll take the ones that will call out their own party any day.
If we, as we claim, represent the values and beliefs of most Americans, then she won’t get very far in DC. There are two models of success in the swamp. Pave your way and demonstrate you are an effective leader, DJT style, or kowtow to the uniparty (everyone else). She is neither of those.
Thanks for the civil reply. Thank you for the info about her wanting Cuomo to answer for his misdeeds. That is something that I absolutely can get behind and support.
DJT has never presented himself as lowborn, yet AOC does that all the time. And her ability to rise had to come from somewhere, yet all we hear from her is that we have to take care of the poor single mothers and other irresponsible people. If she busted her ass and stayed out of trouble and studied hard in school and lived a Spartan lifestyle as the means to the end of her success, then she needs to speak about that.
But we get the opposite. We get shaming and blaming and the demand that those of us that are responsible and lived-for-the-future somehow have an obligation to those that made a different choice and lived-for-today. She's a rabble-rouser giving the undeserving and irresponsible a sense of entitlement, and that's a recipe for disaster.
Ok. So she said shit you and I disagree with. I acknowledged that. President Trump let Mnuchin, Pelosi and McConnell parlay the COVID shutdown into the largest straight transfer of my tax dollars to multinational corporation in the history of the United States. Shit happens. I disagree on things with many people here and many people in public office, including some I admire. Do you actually want 435 people saying the same thing?
So far as the “casting call” thing. I’ve discussed this with people here before. The right/Republicans do the same thing. When it’s people we like we say, “dedicated political professionals knew this seat was an opportunity for someone with X, Y and Z values. They met with many inspiring, bright activists and Person X demonstrated their talent and passion.” The real problem with this is that the barrier to entry is so high for most federal seats you or I can’t just say, “I’m running for Congress”, raise a few thousand bucks for signs and literature and then hit the doors to talk to your neighbors. We have to plucked from obscurity by people with connections to money, power and influence.
“Highborn”?Maybe? Is that a problem now? I can think of another NYC native who was certainly way more “highborn” than her with whom this site has exactly zero problems with. All I know for certain is that it is true she went from an ‘elite’ NYC public school to BU. Her family prioritized education and she is more successful than her parents. Strip away her name and TDW would be praising it as a fine example of the American Dream.
My only point here is that we must accept some amount of ideological and stylistic diversity in a country this large (well, we don’t have to, we could reject the idea we should be one country under a federal government, but that isn’t the conversation we are having.)
We just need to be consistent. Is she some airhead who ditzed her way into a congressional seat she doesn’t deserve and is unfit for? or is she some socialist Manchurian Candidate ushering in Biden’s (who she was very critical of) New World Order.
And she has some definite upsides.
She happens to be the only Democratic elected official in the New York delegation calling for Cuomo to be investigated for his handling of COVID in nursing homes.
Her legislation won’t pass. Despite what that paranoiacs here say, Joe Biden has very explicitly rejected her Green New Deal. So if we are going to have a handful of moonbat Dems from very lefty districts, I’ll take the ones that will call out their own party any day.
If we, as we claim, represent the values and beliefs of most Americans, then she won’t get very far in DC. There are two models of success in the swamp. Pave your way and demonstrate you are an effective leader, DJT style, or kowtow to the uniparty (everyone else). She is neither of those.
Thanks for the civil reply. Thank you for the info about her wanting Cuomo to answer for his misdeeds. That is something that I absolutely can get behind and support.
DJT has never presented himself as lowborn, yet AOC does that all the time. And her ability to rise had to come from somewhere, yet all we hear from her is that we have to take care of the poor single mothers and other irresponsible people. If she busted her ass and stayed out of trouble and studied hard in school and lived a Spartan lifestyle as the means to the end of her success, then she needs to speak about that.
But we get the opposite. We get shaming and blaming and the demand that those of us that are responsible and lived-for-the-future somehow have an obligation to those that made a different choice and lived-for-today. She's a rabble-rouser giving the undeserving and irresponsible a sense of entitlement, and that's a recipe for disaster.