I mean, sure I guess. But god doesn’t seem to even do that at least with most people, hence the thousands or religions people believe with “absolute certainty” that theirs is the one true religion.
If you are saying that “if there is a God than that God is certain”, than sure, I agree, I’d hope that God could be certain because they would in most religions be the creator and knower of all.
It's becoming increasingly common isn't it? along with labeling "conservatism" a cure all? I've been around _TheDonald for 5 years and this is one of the more irritating developments. I'm not sure what to make of it yet.
I know, right? You show up in the eleventh hour and there's, like, a culture already there or something! And it's about damn time everyone changed to make you feel more comfortable!
Then you can bring in all your friends, change all the rules, and evict everyone who was there beforehand--just like the SJWs do!
The two things are unrelated. Nice try. I see you're making the same kind of assumptions SJWs do though. You can keep telling your antiquated fairy tales, but you're going to hear my disrespect of them just as much.
You can respect or disrespect at your own eternal risk. But don't bitch because we don't change our beliefs or culture to please you, especially as you've shown up late to the Right Wing party.
I'm not sure what you're saying but religion has always been a big part of this movement. I don't believe in any of it but respect the values and social integrity that Christians strive towards.
I think my sarcasm comes from frustration these days; folks think you can have a building without its foundation. We grow ideas from assumptions, and societies grow from those ideas. You can have people who dissent from the assumptions and still work fine as a whole, but once you dispense with the assumptions on the whole, your foundations crumble and the next thing you know your house is falling down around your ears.
Whether you believe in it or don't, ultimately you can't have America without certain fundamental theistic values as part of the culture, and you can't really get the "values and social integrity" without the religion--and enough people adhering to it to make it the norm.
And I wish more atheists would be aware that the more you push your belief that God is a made-up fairytale bearded spaghetti skyfairydaddy, and demand to suppress anyone expressing any other opinion, the more you undermine that foundation. Why else do you think the Left has been taking a jackhammer to the entire First Amendment with such enthusiasm?
Yep. The word "science" literally means "knowledge," by which is understood knowledge of the material world. And nothing IN science can prove that there is nothing BUT science, which is to say, all the material means in the world to measure all the material things of the world are unsuited to ascertain spiritual verities, which only God (Himself a spirit, whom must be worshipped likewise) is able to reveal. There is a wonderful quote by a Canadian canon, a cleric named Dyson Hague, if memory serves, that we expect good musicians to be musically inclined, therefore, by analogy, Scripture (which speaks of spiritual things) may be understood only by spiritually-minded persons.
"There is a wonderful quote by a Canadian canon, a cleric named Dyson Hague, if memory serves, that we expect good musicians to be musically inclined, therefore, by analogy, Scripture (which speaks of spiritual things) may be understood only by spiritually-minded persons."
Lol uh huh. "It's not the glaring contradictions, lies, and falsehoods pushed as dogmatic fact, you're just not spiritually inclined enough!"
Well, this is America, and you are entitled to your opinion, and this is not the place to disprove your position, but I will say only this: Not a single spoon of dirt of material evidence ever discovered has ever refuted the truth of Scripture. Religions are what men have made by pervertering it.
This is simply not true lol. Good god a simple Google search of "times science proved the bible wrong" will show you more than I ever could. Saying things doesn't make them true.
Nothing outside of God can offer certainty.
I mean, sure I guess. But god doesn’t seem to even do that at least with most people, hence the thousands or religions people believe with “absolute certainty” that theirs is the one true religion.
Not "god", God. You're right, there is no certainty in god. There is only certainty to be found in God.
If you are saying that “if there is a God than that God is certain”, than sure, I agree, I’d hope that God could be certain because they would in most religions be the creator and knower of all.
Jeb! can.
In Guac We Trust.
Especially the strychnine-flavored variety.
But which one? There are so many to choose from.
Every other poster being a religious nut is getting a bit old.
Sabe me Jebus! Trust in thy lord and everything will be fine. You might kill me, but I'll have the moral highground in the afterlife
It's becoming increasingly common isn't it? along with labeling "conservatism" a cure all? I've been around _TheDonald for 5 years and this is one of the more irritating developments. I'm not sure what to make of it yet.
I know, right? You show up in the eleventh hour and there's, like, a culture already there or something! And it's about damn time everyone changed to make you feel more comfortable!
Then you can bring in all your friends, change all the rules, and evict everyone who was there beforehand--just like the SJWs do!
The two things are unrelated. Nice try. I see you're making the same kind of assumptions SJWs do though. You can keep telling your antiquated fairy tales, but you're going to hear my disrespect of them just as much.
You can respect or disrespect at your own eternal risk. But don't bitch because we don't change our beliefs or culture to please you, especially as you've shown up late to the Right Wing party.
I'm not sure what you're saying but religion has always been a big part of this movement. I don't believe in any of it but respect the values and social integrity that Christians strive towards.
That's what I'm saying.
I think my sarcasm comes from frustration these days; folks think you can have a building without its foundation. We grow ideas from assumptions, and societies grow from those ideas. You can have people who dissent from the assumptions and still work fine as a whole, but once you dispense with the assumptions on the whole, your foundations crumble and the next thing you know your house is falling down around your ears.
Whether you believe in it or don't, ultimately you can't have America without certain fundamental theistic values as part of the culture, and you can't really get the "values and social integrity" without the religion--and enough people adhering to it to make it the norm.
And I wish more atheists would be aware that the more you push your belief that God is a made-up fairytale bearded spaghetti skyfairydaddy, and demand to suppress anyone expressing any other opinion, the more you undermine that foundation. Why else do you think the Left has been taking a jackhammer to the entire First Amendment with such enthusiasm?
Yep. The word "science" literally means "knowledge," by which is understood knowledge of the material world. And nothing IN science can prove that there is nothing BUT science, which is to say, all the material means in the world to measure all the material things of the world are unsuited to ascertain spiritual verities, which only God (Himself a spirit, whom must be worshipped likewise) is able to reveal. There is a wonderful quote by a Canadian canon, a cleric named Dyson Hague, if memory serves, that we expect good musicians to be musically inclined, therefore, by analogy, Scripture (which speaks of spiritual things) may be understood only by spiritually-minded persons.
"There is a wonderful quote by a Canadian canon, a cleric named Dyson Hague, if memory serves, that we expect good musicians to be musically inclined, therefore, by analogy, Scripture (which speaks of spiritual things) may be understood only by spiritually-minded persons."
Lol uh huh. "It's not the glaring contradictions, lies, and falsehoods pushed as dogmatic fact, you're just not spiritually inclined enough!"
Well, this is America, and you are entitled to your opinion, and this is not the place to disprove your position, but I will say only this: Not a single spoon of dirt of material evidence ever discovered has ever refuted the truth of Scripture. Religions are what men have made by pervertering it.
This is simply not true lol. Good god a simple Google search of "times science proved the bible wrong" will show you more than I ever could. Saying things doesn't make them true.