No I didn’t just get this from Jonah Goldberg or something, and I’m also talking about absolute left vs right rather than local relative terms.
Left vs right comes from the estates general in revolutionary France where the left wing was anti-traditional, anti-monarchy, and anti-aristocracy, but the core element there is anti-traditional. So in absolute terms, fascism isn’t as anti-traditional as communism, but there’s still tons of anti-traditional stuff in there so it’s still left wing just not as left wing as communism.
Traditional in the US at this point is liberal individualism and stuff like the bill of rights. (Around 1776 it would have been left wing but that term wasn’t in use outside of France.) Fascism in the US was definitely left wing relative to that because they’d burn all that traditional individualist stuff for the sake of totalitarian authoritarian collectivist Utopianism. That’s what Brave New World by Aldos Huxley was based on.
No I didn’t just get this from Jonah Goldberg or something, and I’m also talking about absolute left vs right rather than local relative terms.
Left vs right comes from the estates general in revolutionary France where the left wing was anti-traditional, anti-monarchy, and anti-aristocracy, but the core element there is anti-traditional. So in absolute terms, fascism isn’t as anti-traditional as communism, but there’s still tons of anti-traditional stuff in there so it’s still left wing just not as left wing as communism.
Traditional in the US at this point is liberal individualism and stuff like the bill of rights. (Around 1776 it would have been left wing but that term wasn’t in use outside of France.) Fascism in the US was definitely left wing relative to that because they’d burn all that traditional individualist stuff for the sake of totalitarian authoritarian collectivist Utopianism. That’s what Brave New World by Aldos Huxley was based on.
Good reply. Yeah individualism and liberty would be considered left wing by French revolution standards.
Check out this video on the "political triangle" if you're interested.
It posits there's an "absolutist right" (like the monarchists) a "libertarian right" and "leftism/communism".
The absolutist right and libertarian right don't have much in common except their opposition to leftism.
And it's kinda funny that libertarians and absolutists are constantly accusing each other of being leftists.
To me it makes a lot more sense than the 2 dimensional left/right sliding scale.
oops forgot to include the link
https://youtu.be/Twi_6NgsJWU