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Cdope45 31 points ago +31 / -0

The whole love thy neighbor and the do unto others arguement has dominated the Christian narrative to the point that liberals use it as weapon.

I think that's partly to do with the church changing faces after the crusade and the inquisitions.

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notCIA 29 points ago +29 / -0

And while those points are correct, they've been manipulated. I don't see anything in this definition of love that tells me to sit down and shut up. The Robertson from Duck Commander always point to this definition of love in the Bible. It tells us that love always PROTECTS. The motivation we are supposed to avoid is hate.

1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

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ViduusMAGA 8 points ago +8 / -0

It sounds so cheesy to say but god I love listening Phil’s guest sermons. Jase has a way with words too.

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notCIA 18 points ago +18 / -0

They remind me of my dad in a way. Just lost him recently. Guess that's my inner hick coming out. They've helped bring some common sense back to Christianity. People seem to forget that God is surprisingly "down to Earth". He gets what is going on here, and he addressed all of it.

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Pompelulu 3 points ago +3 / -0

Where can i listen to these phil's guest sermons? Searching returned an australian guy newlifecovenant something, is it this?

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IwantmyCountryback 4 points ago +4 / -0

They have a podcast that is awesome on all podcast providers.

https://www.stitcher.com/show/unashamed-with-phil-robertson

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Pompelulu 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you!

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IwantmyCountryback 2 points ago +2 / -0

They talk about their family, life and the Bible. Great people to connect with.

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ViduusMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sadly I used to YouTube it. I think they called it FaithCommander.

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GlockArm 10 points ago +12 / -2

That doesn't mean loving your neighbor if he's a child raping satanist. Crazy I know.

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Cdope45 7 points ago +7 / -0

Whatever you say you bigot. Love is love.

/s

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KingZoidberg 6 points ago +6 / -0

They avoid the Bible like they avoid critical thinking, so they have no concept of "Righteous Indignation"... J-man flipped the money-changer's table for a reason, then he brought the pain with the whip... I say it's time to bring the pain and show up at the doors of the swamp rats with 10k well armed men and women each, 100k for the FED and IRS.

Time to flip some tables.

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AgnesDomini 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, no, no guns Zoidy! That is what the Deep State was hoping would happen at the DC rally, in order to rush through gun restrictions as being justified. They were clearly miffed when Pedes did not show up and do a gun rush, because it sabotaged the narrative they had planned. Since no one from OUR side used guns, they had to use them on theirs in order to make claims about it being "deadly," so they could plan the impeachment hoax. The way to move ahead is to best them at their own game, with legislation and fines, to beat them with the same stick they use on us. TENTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS are the way to counter---negate, mitigate, eviscerate--federal encroachment of our domestic liberties. The Xiden administration is shooting cannons in the hull of our own ship of state to sink it faster, so primarying RINOs out of office needs to be the tactic right now...and, well, let's see what the SCOTUS does next week with the election cases.

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KingZoidberg 2 points ago +2 / -0

I own guns as a last ditch resort, I have 0 desire to kill anyone.

Though if someone shows up trying to push me around, I'm going to look mean as hell.

The pen is mightier, still doesn't mean you shouldn't hold a sword.

Side note: Gov't won't save you from Gov't, period. Learn to give conditional acceptance, and stop believing tyrants have power over you.

2Peter 2:3 - And through covetousness shall they with **feigned **words make **merchandise **of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

They've used legalese to fool the ignorant. NO MAN HAS CONTROL OVER YOU.

1 Thess 4:11-12 - And to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one.

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NeoDragoon 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Do unto others" is a terrible argument for them, because at some point I'm going to do the logical outcome, which is to do unto others as they would have done onto them. Ergo, if they're attacking me when I'm just trying to mind my own damn business, they're going to end up losing all their loot in minecraft.

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MAD-3R 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't forget to take all their loot so you can make more of your own. You know arrows can be a pain to make...

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Doc_Aeon -1 points ago +5 / -6

That's Paulianity. Christianity only lasted a short time before that moral space was retaken by Judaism via Saul/Paul. Much of the inherent weakness found in modern Christianity is a product of his work, and those who followed. In the 100 years after Jesus, much was twisted or deliberately inverted.

In short - the greatest trick the Devil ever played WASN'T convincing people he didn't exist, it was convincing people he WAS to be the object of worship.

Even shorter - modern Christianity is religious cuckoldry.

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ERansom 5 points ago +5 / -0

If you misunderstand Paul & St Augustine, then you miss the point of all of scripture. Ill agree with you that the church has been twisted out of shape but Augustine/Paul/Luther captured the core of Christ.

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EvensoAmen 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hahahhaha. Uhhhhhh.....no.

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EvensoAmen 1 point ago +2 / -1

Anachronistic reasoning, my friend. Read the NT and you'll see all you need to see.

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Finnsforgeotus 10 points ago +10 / -0

"sell thy cloak and buy a sword", lord look we have two swords "it is enough"

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KarenKarenKaren 8 points ago +8 / -0

I did not come to bring peace but a sword

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HebsFarm 3 points ago +3 / -0

And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. (Isaiah 2:4).
I'm not trying to dispute anyone or make a pronouncement regarding the relevance of this verse to the topic, just pointing out the actual verse for the sake of accuracy.

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boomerbutnotOKBoomer 7 points ago +7 / -0

But dude, that's what we do AFTER we send Lucifer's minions back to the burning fire from where they came. NOT BEFORE.

THERE IS NOTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT SAYS, "SIT BACK AND ALLOW EVIL MEN AND WOMEN TO DEFILE, TORTURE, SLAY AND CONSUME CHILDREN...'

Just sayin

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BaxterTheWanderDog 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think you missed his funny there.

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MAGASpaceCat 7 points ago +9 / -2

I am sick of low-T Christcucks.

Either you are Christian that is all about DEUS VULT or you can GTFO and go home to your wife and her boyfriend.

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GeoG85 3 points ago +3 / -0

People believe the pussy mantras, "If you kill your enemy, they win." "Eye for an eye makes the world blind. The guy going around collecting eyes, unchallenged? HE'S PEACEFUL". "Turn the other cheek." Jesus said him-fuckin'-self "I come not to bring peace, but a sword." I bring you the ability to defend yourself against Evil and Wicked. But yea. Even as a kid, they try to say "Good is gay! So uncool!" Example, they'll say "being surrounded by beautiful, clean women - that's not HEAVEN! That's the Devil!" And people BELIEVE IT. LOL. I'll end it here for now.

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schnazzmizzle 3 points ago +7 / -4

What does being a Christian mean?

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DivvyDivet 18 points ago +19 / -1

Ask 1000 Christians get 1000 different answers.

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schnazzmizzle -25 points ago +6 / -31

Like this dumb one.

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GlockArm 0 points ago +5 / -5

It's the most truthful answer, you just don't like it.

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EvensoAmen 3 points ago +3 / -0

Many say they are Christians but are not. It is no wonder we hear so many "answers".

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randomusers239874 2 points ago +2 / -0

No true Scotsman fallacy.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +2 / -1

No, there is an answer and a simple one, but that's probably why people don't accept. Accept Christ as your lord and savior, then attempt to live your life according to his teachings. Simple as.

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schnazzmizzle -8 points ago +4 / -12

What else have you ever done?

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schnazzmizzle -11 points ago +3 / -14

You seem anxious and angry, just like the enemy wants you.

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schnazzmizzle -3 points ago +4 / -7

To what end? So you can get mad about everything you read online and see on TV? Nah, I aint worried about these wicked people and I could care less what they have to say. I'm going to continue to raise my kids, run my business and serve Jesus. Do not take this to mean I am a coward or a pushover, just like making wild internet claims about "carting people off to FEMA camps" doesn't mean your tough or informed.

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GlockArm -1 points ago +3 / -4

You seem like a pussy.

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NotQuiteHuman 2 points ago +2 / -0

We've been holding the line for decades, and being undermined at every turn by people either pretending to be our brothers and then backstabbing us, or non-Christians who like the prosperity we've built up but think we could do without all that morality BS.

Keeping a nation up and running while fending off constant attacks from every angle probably isn't anything compared to what you've been doing, though.

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schnazzmizzle -2 points ago +3 / -5

This is a spiritual battle, good vs evil, right vs wrong.

You cannot rebel vs authority as that is the wicked ones game and he will not allow you to play by the same rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIIH9hzHG3s

All we can do is hold the line, and when the time comes to stand on principle, truth and justice, stand together. That time will come.

(The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.)

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NotQuiteHuman 2 points ago +2 / -0

And when they had summoned them, they commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John answered and said to them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, make your own judgment; 20 for we cannot stop speaking about what we have seen and heard.”

There are times when you tell "authorities" to go judge themselves.

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schnazzmizzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

I dont understand the point you are trying to convey?

Who is saying stop talking about Jesus?

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el-y0y0s 4 points ago +5 / -1

To witness God's only son as the whipping post of those that espoused the mosaic law, so that when it happens again, you understand that you're not only going to be carrying that cross for your self worth and salvation, but you're going to fight like a motherfucker from it ever happening again.

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schnazzmizzle -2 points ago +3 / -5

What was the cross for then?

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chknh8r 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's what roman's used to crucify people. They made him carry it through town as a means of punishment. Much like your mom making you go get the switch, belt, or wooden spoon she gonna whip you with. a walk of shame if you will.

It was the jews that ratted jesus out. They were upset he was rocking the status quo of their money system and religious hierarchy. Jesus was basically saying God is within all of us and you don't need to tithe at the temples for God to hear your prayers. and that he was the King of the Jews. Which the jews deemed blasphemous. So the Jews told the Roman Governor that Jesus was a rebel towards the Roman Empire.

The romans were literally just the occupying authority. They didn't give a shit about Abrahamic Religions at that point in time. They only cared about social appeasement, assimilation, and tax collection. The jews accused Jesus of crimes. The romans were the court of law that carried out the sentence based on false accusations. in a nutshell.

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NotQuiteHuman 2 points ago +2 / -0

You miss a significant point, however. There had already been quite a few fellows showing up to declare themselves the Messiah; and almost invariably, they'd led militant groups.

The Romans were having no more of this violent insurgency stuff, so the Sanhedrin decided that anyone claiming to be the Messiah would be handed over.

It's a prime example of what happens when you let political expediency override your faith.

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chknh8r 2 points ago +2 / -0

I hadn't considered the previous false messiah's, very good point as to Rome's reaction. I had the impression Pontius didn't really see the crime as death worthy because he gave Jesus chances to "rescind" his claims thus removing the death penalty. Plus Jesus kind of ticked off the Pontius during their previous meetings which lead to his ultimate decision at the Sanhedrin Trial. It's been awhile and my memory isn't great as it once was.

I thought this musical summed the trial up well and the Actor for Pontius was really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0CgVGrn-AU

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schnazzmizzle -2 points ago +2 / -4

It was one of his disciples that turned him over to the authorities. You are getting too wrapped around who did what and fail to realize that you would have crucified him too, just like me.

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ViduusMAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

You must not have read the Bible then.

“Then Satan entered into Judas called Iscariot, who was of the number of the twelve. He went away and conferred with the chief priests and officers how he might betray him to them. And they were glad, and agreed to give him money. So he consented and sought an opportunity to betray him to them in the absence of a crowd.”

‭‭Luke‬ ‭22:3-6‬ ‭ESV

‬‬ “Then the chief priests and the elders of the people gathered in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and plotted together in order to arrest Jesus by stealth and kill him.”

‭‭Matthew‬ ‭26:3-4‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Luke 22:66 is his trial before the Jewish Councel (not Roman)

Luke 23:13 is where pilate and Herod find Jesus innocent of the Jewish Councels claim. (They try to tell the romana that Jesus is claiming to be a king. They’re made he is claiming to be the son of god)

Luke 23:18 is when they as Pilates to free a killer and crucify Jesus in his place.

In the end it was the Jews who killed him for breaking mosaic law and claiming to be the Son of Man/Son of God.

Among other things, the life of Jesus parallels the life of the lambs used in the annual Passover slaughter. (Events and dates line up) The gospels are a layering of multiple analogies and prophetic answers rolled up together. I.e Son of Man from the book of Daniel combined with some older prop hues about the bloodline of David and photo baskets from Malachi.

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schnazzmizzle 1 point ago +3 / -2

What are you trying to say, that is a very rambling comment.

The story of Judas is a cautionary tale of how you can be so close to Jesus, yet still fall short of salvation.

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GlockArm -1 points ago +2 / -3

You love to project your own weakness onto other people. It doesn't make it true.

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schnazzmizzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

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tootoo22 3 points ago +3 / -0

When Jesus was sentenced to be crucified, he was forced to carry his cross from Jerusalem publicly through the streets to the spot he was to be crucified. Many interpret the carrying of the cross as carrying your burden or duty, whatever it may be.

That's about all I know. Still reading the bible.

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el-y0y0s 3 points ago +3 / -0

The cross is a reminder that you challenge enemies of the state without fear.

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schnazzmizzle -3 points ago +3 / -6

Jesus didnt die as a political statement.

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el-y0y0s 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yes he did.

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Leftish 3 points ago +3 / -0

Being Christ-like I would say

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notCIA 3 points ago +3 / -0

Accepting Jesus as your lord and savior through faith. Any other answer may be right to a degree, but this is what God tells us is our only hope to be saved, because no one has or could fulfill the law of the old testament other than Jesus.

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racer513 39 points ago +39 / -0

Islam, Sikhs, even Hindus all fight for their religion. Christians have had their nuts cut off

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45GoldenEra 20 points ago +20 / -0

pUt tHe oThEr cHeEk ReEeEeE

how convenient that they forgot how Jesus kicked some ass to protect his Temple or that we had Popes literally calling for wars.

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honk_hogan 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yeah turn the other cheek is not the worst advice for when you're in a situation where somebody distrusts you for no apparent reason. I'm not sure I'd follow it literally but steadfastly demonstrating good will works pretty well for defusing conflicts that never needed to be conflicts in the first place except for our dumb lizard brains.

But against real evil? Yeah I wish somebody in the Bible asked for clarification lol.

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45GoldenEra 3 points ago +3 / -0

Psalm 34:16 Verse Concepts The face of the Lord is against evildoers, To cut off the memory of them from the earth.

im not an expert but that sounds pretty clear to me.

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NotQuiteHuman 1 point ago +1 / -0

Citing the acts of various Popes isn't going to get you very far with most Protestants.

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sfmaga 9 points ago +9 / -0

Do not worship violence, which is what the tweet seemingly alludes to.

We are to be warriors, that is correct! However, the battleground is in our minds. "For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;" -- 2 Corinthians 10:3-5

Seek the Lord. Study His Word. Love Him with all your heart, soul, and mind. These are the most important things for a Christian man. The ferocious Christian men she talks about were tortured, stoned to death, crucified. Even then, they didn't seek to destroy their enemies, but to save them.

In modern times, it is the same. Be ferociously serving the Lord, protecting your family, raising your children in a godly manner. Reject the world and its depravity. Of course we are to stand firm in the midst of wickedness and degeneracy! God doesn't want us to just roll over and submit to everything that is "politically correct". God doesn't want us to be accepting of all the left's insanity. Now more than ever, men have to be strong in the Lord, stand firm in His commandments, and live a life God wants us to have.

I prefer the analogy of Jesus flipping over the tables rather than dressing up as a Templar.

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racer513 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree with everything you said except that you must be ready to also use violence. We all saw that ISIS treated Christians like sheep when they slashed throats. Stop being a sheep and be a lion.

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sfmaga 5 points ago +5 / -0

Self-defense sometimes does require violence, of course. If ISIS, antifa, blm, or any other person/group is intending to harm someone and/or their loved ones, we are permitted to protect ourselves and fight back. It's the glorification of vengeance and reckless retaliation that is unbiblical and misleading.

When they came to arrest Jesus, Peter fought back and cut off someone's ear. Christ rebuked him for this. It wasn't for the act of self-defense, rather for Peter's unwise decision. God's plan was for Christ to die on the cross for our salvation, and Peter's actions stood in the way of that. We must discern, with God's help, when is the right time and the right way to act.

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racer513 12 points ago +12 / -0

Back in the 1960s , the Gay mafia took over the seminaries where Catholic priests are trained. With that came the feminization of the clergy. When I was in Catholic grade school in the early 1960s, our parish priest was a roll model. He was a natural leader and later became a Bishop. By the time I was in college, our parish priest was an alcoholic that needed rehab every year and finally got caught going to a gay bar wearing a black leather suit.

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tholins 12 points ago +12 / -0

Agreed fren. But I think that’s starting to change. Every young priest I know is pretty based. When the Boomer priests retire, I think the church will start changing for the better.

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War_Hamster 7 points ago +7 / -0

I was raised Episcopalian. We had a visiting priest from Ethiopia who I spent a lot of time talking to. He would tell stories about how Christians were violently persecuted and how they would fight back and protect each other.

It was a valuable lesson about how the book and the sword are very compatible.

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FireannDireach 1 point ago +1 / -0

Anecdotal, my uncle joined the Catholic seminary in the 60's, in NY. He left after two months - and till the day he died, said it was because "it was too gay".

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3-10 2 points ago +2 / -0

Atheist Communists fight and mass murder for their religion too.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Christianity was hijacked in this country the moment people started using the term judeo-christian to describe their values.

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racer513 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isn’t Judeo Christian accurate? Jesus was a Jew and Paul created the religion of The Christ.

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America1stAndOnly 2 points ago +2 / -0

And jews sold him out, hate his guts, and hold very different values. I'm not a jew. I'm not a judeo-christian. I'm a Christian.

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ObongoForPrison2020 28 points ago +28 / -0

Yep. I walked away from The Lord for several years after college. I sensed great weakness in religion, but I came to the realization a few years ago that the weakness I was seeing was the failure of weak church leadership and, in turn, weak Christians.

Everything changed for me when I heard a Biblical scholar making the case that Jesus Christ was the most dangerous person to ever live - and not just because of what he was teaching. This scholar was talking about how Jesus was a man of action and that when he cleared the temple, it wasn’t just flipping a table and walking away. It was an all day, violent affair.

Be like Jesus. I would like to think Jesus would be dual wielding machine guns and taking out pedos. I have no tolerance for evil. I am a sinner, certainly, and I have much to repent for. But we need to confront evil. Violence will be necessary.

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schnazzmizzle 11 points ago +11 / -0

"Being like Jesus" is following him to the cross realizing that our enemies are spiritual. Being in the world, but not of this world.

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MerlynTrump 5 points ago +6 / -1

I don't know about gunning down pedos. Nowhere in the Gospels does Jesus actually kill anybody, although in the book of Revelation He does.

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notCIA 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's not a representation of Jesus that came from the Bible. He flipped tables and whipped people, he absolutely showed that action and violence can be necessary, but that was a far cry from mindless massacres. What Jesus had that essentially nobody else does is the ability for anger without hatred. The Bible tells us that human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires. Just a tidbit to think about. Not saying that violence is in any way off the table, but it can't really be out of anger, it should be for love. Love of people and defense of their freedom is good enough as far as I've seen, and that's the motivation I try to stick to.

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ObongoForPrison2020 2 points ago +3 / -1

Killing pedophiles (who aren't even people) is an act of love for children and defends their freedoms.

Kill all pedophiles.

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notCIA 1 point ago +1 / -0

I guess if you don't think there is anything that comes between freedom and the death penalty, sure. Fact is, saying that pedos aren't people may be fun (I've been known to dehumanize a commie here and there) it immediately violates your job to love everyone, seeing as Jesus loves everyone, even those pedos and commies. Love the children, defend them, hate the sin not the sinner.

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ObongoForPrison2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am not disagreeing with you, because at the heart of your position you are right. But the whole "Love everyone, hate the sin" mindset is why I lost trust in the church. I cannot, and will not, love everyone. I hate them because their sin defines them.

Pedophile. That is a creature that thrives off the exploitation, manipulation, fear, and sexual dominance of CHILDREN. I cannot love them. They can never be trusted in a society that values the rights of children. Either lock them up and chemically castrate them, or it's open season.

Kill all pedophiles. Let God sort them out.

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OoooJackieBlue 22 points ago +24 / -2

It's that whole Turn The Other Cheek bs. Also the fact that most church congregations see themselves as a flock. Not a pride. A flock. A flock of closed eye, head nodding, hand swaying in the air, bleating sheep waiting for Jesus to take the wheel and assuring each other that it's all "In God's Hands".

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UsurperJoe 16 points ago +16 / -0

Yes I loathe the passivity.

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kornesque 8 points ago +9 / -1

Taken in context, "turn the other cheek" isn't unconditional passivity. It's a reminder to be willing to restrain our pride. God and Church, family and country are to be protected ferociously.

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OoooJackieBlue 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mebbe so but it's not how it's always taught. My dad was a preacher. In our home, turn the other cheek meant exactly that. If someone hit you, you backed down. Better still, you embraced them, even if they kept hitting you.

That may have had more to do with our dad being an abusive asshole who didn't want his kids hitting back than any religious beliefs he held, but it was definitely the party line at church.

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kornesque 2 points ago +2 / -0

And that's why personal interpretation of Scripture is so dangerous. Peter himself warned against this. The word of God can be difficult to interpret.

Sorry to hear about your past friend, but at least your eyes are open. Viva Cristo Rey!

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +2 / -1

That's not what it meant at all. People often leave out the time period in which this was said. Slapping someone with the back of your hand was an act that was down from a superior to an inferior, while you only slapped someone with the open palm of your hand if you acknowledged them as your equal. So when you get back handed, you turn the other cheek, daring them to slap you again, this time with their palm, and acknowledge you as an equal. It was a way for a slave to show defiance.

Here's another. Jesus said if you have to carry a soldier's gear for a mile, carry it for two. Again, he's speaking to those that were slaves. What is the meaning of this though? Well, the soldiers were allowed to have their slaves carry their gear for 1 mile, but not more because the Romans believed that more than that would make the soldier soft. So you find yourself a slave to one of these soldiers and he orders you to carry his pack. You carry it and the hour ends, but instead of giving it back, you keep on carrying it. Then the soldier's officer notices this and the soldier gets his ass reamed for defying orders.

Jesus taught us methods of fighting back against oppressors when we find ourselves without power. He did not teach us to be weak.

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Olds77 6 points ago +6 / -0

Dude, Christianity grew incredibly fast, because life was barbaric and folks were cruel and Jesus offered a much better way of life based largely on love and forgiveness. Many of his early followers were martyred in horrific ways and they went out like absolute champions, praising and thanking their God, forgiving the wicked folks that did that to them and singing and people were beyond touched by something so powerful and pretty much converted on the spot. I think Christ is tremendous because of his love and forgiveness and we can't ever forget that, but just because we believe that doesn't mean we have to be weak. We hold ourselves to a higher standard then the folks that might persecute us and I don't see that as weakness, but strength from and in faith in our lord.

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MerlynTrump 5 points ago +6 / -1

"pray as if everything depends on God. Work as if everything depends on you." Augustine of Hippo.

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NotQuiteHuman 2 points ago +2 / -0

I turn my cheek. I'm not able to turn anyone else's.

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Verrerogo 16 points ago +17 / -1

Alas the Fifties did this. There was a need to calm down, and de-arm, and de-fang the millions of armed returning veterans.

So the nice, kind, man with only two children, and a wife who was so sweet she made your teeth hurt, came in. For twenty years.

Then The Sixties happened, as a reaction to that, but instead of going back to the sensible, normal, rugged Forties, things got even softer and weirder. Men wore long hair, necklaces, earrings, and women had fewer and fewer children. The women ceased to be ladies. That was billed as an advance for them. Less stiff. Less respected and protected, and required to survive on their own in a promiscuous forest, however. But their clothes became more comfortable and washable and didn't need ironing.

So that's your answer.

The Fifties weren't all bad. But the clothes, food, and nascent focus on sluttiness were bad.

Fifties advertising is so full of soft porn, it makes your eyes fall out. The Sixties' craziness really started right after WW II.

You can't literally go back, but you can rescue and re-tool what was good. Clothes can be lady-like and also comfortable.

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TwitterIsTrash 10 points ago +10 / -0

Men only need to be soft in the sense of being sensitive to their wife and family’s needs. When it comes to everything else, be strong.

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pepperedtrail 1 point ago +7 / -6

Incorrect. Women do not actually like it when men are sensitive to them. They may say that they prefer it but they are usually unhappy when the man is not doing all of the steering in the relationship. Women are usually too stupid to know what they actually want so you have to show them what they want. Women are so stupid that they've spent the last 70 years creating weak men and now they complain that there are no good men left. Idiots.

However I do agree that men do need to be good fathers.

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TwitterIsTrash 6 points ago +8 / -2

As a woman, if a guy isn’t understanding or sympathetic when I’m upset, that’s a major turn off. Obviously I don’t want them to be a push over. Just sensitive to serious things like a death in the family, losing a job, dealing with personal issues, etc. When they tell me to “get over it” I immediately shut myself off and don’t want to tell them anything ever again. I do prefer them to lead in a relationship though. I’m tired of men who never want to make the first move or take any risks. They suck.

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pepperedtrail 8 points ago +8 / -0

There's a reason why men don't take risks. Right now dating is heavily tilted against men. Women generally have a much easier time dating since all they have to do is make a dating profile and they'll get hundreds and thousands of matches. Generally a woman has multiple men giving her attention at the same time while the average men's sex life is as dry as the Sahara desert. An intelligent man(not necessarily attractive but intelligent) who realizes this will feel less motivated to try since he knows that there's less benefit for him and a much higher risk. Also the woman would actually have to be worth something for a worthwhile man to want to risk something for her. The general degenerate man who is horny and wants to fuck whatever he can get his dick into will always take risks because there's nothing to lose.

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anishr 4 points ago +4 / -0

There's a reason why men don't take risks. Right now dating is heavily tilted against men.

No real man would ever be swayed by an argument like this. A man will sway dating back to his favor. If you are able to do that, then you will be surrounded by women who respect you. Why are you unable to sway dating back to your favor?

I’ve dated lots of shitlibs but I have a few principles:

  1. Never ever let anyone talk shit about my President or any politics for that matter. If someone talks nonsensical bullshit, then they will be met with serious force.

  2. If the woman or her friends or family ever say anything disrespectful or act unkindly, they will be met with force.

  3. If I have the slightest fear that the woman I want to marry might screw me, so I might have to sign a prenup, I’m not going to marry that girl. The woman I marry will be one who I wholeheartedly trust. No slimebag ho who flirts with the bartender while I’m not looking.

  4. In the event that all my judgement has failed, and I get screwed over by alimony/divorce later on, that is my cross to bear. Despite all of my efforts, God has judged that it is my Ides of March. So I will bear this cross and do whatever it takes to lighten the burden, but I will persevere.

Stop being a weak coward and go out there. Being unmarried and childless is far scarier. Being childless especially leaves your duty towards society and your ancestors unfulfilled. Where is your drive to preserve your bloodline? While Muslims and the like multiply like rabbits, you are worried about life being unfair to you.

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pepperedtrail 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good luck with your fantasies. The real world does not bend to our will. You've been watching too many hollywood movies. Also I'm probably 2x the man you are with a larger income than you. There's no way I'm going to give my assets to a woman who will divorce me and take 50% of my shit and fuck me in the ass with alimony. 80% of divorces are initiated by the woman.

We live in a society that favors women and punishes men. You can be a pussy worshipper and place your value on pussy and evaluate yourself on whether women like you or not. Women need men for survival. Men do not need women.

Your attempts in shaming me into reproducing will not work since I have too much to lose and nothing to gain. Childless? Please. Even the bible says some men are born to be enunchs. That's a harsh reality. In order for there to be winners, there must be losers. There's no participation award. You're either a winner or a loser.

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anishr 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ah sorry. I don't think we are on the same wavelength. This is one of those conversations which will turn into ad hominems real quick. You will never understand me or my points, so let's call it a day.

One question though.

You said earlier:

The general degenerate man who is horny and wants to fuck whatever he can get his dick into will always take risks because there's nothing to lose.

And then you also said:

Women need men for survival. Men do not need women.

So you're going to be celibate? Or are you going to be a degenerate man who fucks whatever you can get your dick into? Or are you going to fuck only the women you deem worthy? Or are you going to choose a single woman to fuck for the rest of your life?

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pepperedtrail 0 points ago +1 / -1

Signs of a weak man - he backs out as soon as the argument turns sour against him.

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TwitterIsTrash 2 points ago +2 / -0

A much easier time dating? LOL. Unless I wanted to date a total creep who would take any female that breathes, it is NOT easy for us either. Guys in my generation don’t know what the hell they want, play hot and cold, and are too immature to pursue a real relationship like 90% of the time. I’m still looking for the exception

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Cuzyoudbeinjail 1 point ago +3 / -2

The term you're looking for is fuckboi.

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QuickHands 3 points ago +3 / -0

No....no it really isn't. I don't know how an early 2000s UGK/TI Rapper term turned into something that 20-year-old White girls who read Cosmo flippantly throw out there, but no, "fuckboi" (fuck ass nigga --> fuck nigga --> fuck boy) never has and never will catch on being used like that.

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QuickHands 5 points ago +5 / -0

pepperedtrail covered most of it.

85% of women today, their top hobbies are travelling, watching Netflix, raves/concerts, twerk, be bisexual, eat hot chip and lie. Dead ass. Those are not hobbies - that's just throwing money down the drain for Insta/Snap/TikTok photo ops.

Real hobbies-cum-life skills are going the way of the dodo: cooking/baking (WITH ACTUAL RECIPES), hiking, jogging/weights, swimming, sewing/crafts, first aid/CPR/"survivalist", self-defense....very few women have hobbies that actually MATTER these days. The "Well Rounded" woman is no more. If the Mothers who raised the current flock of Women do not themselves demonstrate well-roundedness at home, what incentive is there for the daughters to do so? There is none. Mothers used to lead by example - now they just teach their girls how to extract value from men (dates, jewelry, other excesses) "and that's how you know he cares about you, sweety".

The result is that the workaholic male has no solid reason to break from routine and go after any particular woman. Which wouldn't be an issue except...you NEED at least one workaholic in the house to...afford the aforementioned house. Anything even approaching a major metro area, houses are going for $300-400K or more. So to pay for that with a wife that stays home, you need at least a $60K/year job. Go look up the actual stats on jobs that pay that much ($30hr PLUS solid benefits), it's an eye-opener. Once you've worked your way up and you finally get a job like that, do you REALLY want to risk it all for some random barfly who insists on complete and total adherence to current societal norms (set by promiscuous women) while still holding the ace in the hole (false rape/assault accusations)? It's not happening.

Women stopped policing Women, stopped shaming other Women for their garbage behaviors. Us Men can't un-do it, we just have to continue to pick our spots, we have no other choice. I leave you with this: https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-around-one-in-three-young-americans-havent-had-sex-in-the-last-year-20200614

We were all - Men and Women - told that the increase in availability of contraception would lead to EVERYONE being able to have sex more often with less consequences. What turned out to be the case was the exact opposite: we're having less sex, and getting married (the end-around for a dead sex life), less than ever before; and an increasingly small number of men (and growing number of women) are getting the lion's share.

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anishr 0 points ago +1 / -1

That is the most bullshit, sulky argument I’ve ever read. If I’m in my thirties, and I’ve met lots of women with “ACTUAL” hobbies (like how you described), why can’t you?

It sounds like you’re in a bubble with very retarded women and you’ve pussied out from your responsibility - teach them the way. Show them what life is about. If you’re a strong man who has knowledge, integrity AND FORBEARANCE on your side, nothing will stop you.

Wanna date a shitlib who cries sexism all the time? Sure. But never tolerate her bullshit. All unkindness/nonsensical bullshit from her should be met with force.

She leaves you? Sure. Time to move on.

She stays and changes, and you decide to get married. Should you sign a prenup? Fuck that. If a woman ever gives you a feeling that you need a prenup to get screwed over, either you’re a neurotic coward, or she’s not the one, or some combination of the two.

If you don’t sign a prenup, and years later your worst fears come true - she claims rape/some other garbage, the court takes everything you have, you end up in prison, and you gotta pay to support her while she’s fucking her new husband. Then that is God’s plan for you and it is your cross to bear. Bear the damn cross with pride!!! Serve your time, come out and look that woman in the eye. I promise you, nobody will have the balls to ever look you in the eye. Only weaklings complain about their lot in life.

If you have the humility to understand that there’s almost nothing you can control in life, combined with the courage to enter into dangerous territory, combined with the forbearance required to bear hardship, you will be invulnerable. That invulnerability will attract women way better than what you describe, and earn you respect. Once a woman really respects you, it’s game over. She’s yours for life to cherish in health and sickness, until death do you part.

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QuickHands 0 points ago +1 / -1

Sounds like you have a shitty job in a deep red area. Unfortunately for us both, I have a killer job in a deep blue area. Even if you find "THE ONE", you're only a step or two away from a whole cadre of feminist friends and family.

Do you really think that was just some ill-thought out MGTOW screed? It's all reality. And I don't believe in your bullshit SKY JESUS where I just roll over and get fucked in the ass because MUH JESUS wanted it that way. Get absolutely fucked.

I'm stacking all kinds of coin right now and if I can't find a woman who matters, who isn't some pathetic 'Christian' who surrounds herself with heathens, child-killers and drug addicts - then I'll just stay single until such time I can take my fortune and my talents to another area.

Difference between me and you: I probably throw your entire annual salary in the bank every year - while living in one of the highest COL areas in the country. Not even bullshitting. And THAT'S why it's so painful and why I'm so passionate about this topic. Am I in 100% perfect shape now, Greek God body, etc? No. But i take care of myself, I work, I invest, it's only a matter of time until I can get out of this shithole with my sanity in tact.

If I sold everything I owned I could buy a new construction home, in cash, in 95% of suburbs and 80% of urban areas in America. Can you say the same? No? Then get off my dick and stop excusing shitty female behavior.

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anishr 1 point ago +1 / -0

The very fact that you boast online reveals your true character. Quite pathetic, and frankly I shouldn’t have expected more from a coward. Btw in case you’re wondering, I live in the highest COL part of the country too ;)

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QuickHands 0 points ago +1 / -1

Good for you idiot, you didn't answer the question you broke ass. Anybody can rent a 3bd with their bros and be BROKE, not everybody can save half their paycheck, own their house and still ride fly.

Talk some more though, this is fun. Expose how much of a bitch you are to the world.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

When they tell me to “get over it” I immediately shut myself off and don’t want to tell them anything ever again.

You mean like how women do with men all the time?

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TwitterIsTrash 2 points ago +2 / -0

I never tell men to get over things. I wish they’d talk more instead of pretend nothing matters. I love when people trust me enough to vent to me about stuff.

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HebsFarm 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ephesians instructs women to OBEY their husbands. The next verse instructs men to LOVE their wives. If he LOVEs her, he will not make it abhorrent for her to OBEY. The family will follow his leadership, and they will make the journey in love.

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tholins 5 points ago +5 / -0

We need a return to the Church Militant attitude. Jesus wasn’t some limp-wristed commie cuck pushover.

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DearCow 4 points ago +6 / -2

Sorry, but Christianity was created to break the Northern white tribes and bring them into the Roman fold.

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iDinduNuffin 2 points ago +2 / -0

It would've brought the Romans into another's folds beforehand in that case

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anishr 2 points ago +4 / -2

Yeah it’s funny how people don’t realize this. A huge part of evangelical Christianity is centered around propaganda to convert other peoples into Christianity to make them less likely to rebel and therefore make them easier to rule.

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AgnesDomini 4 points ago +4 / -0

YASSSSSSSS! PREACH, GIRLFRIEND! It is onwards Christian soldiers, not doormats!

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Moriartis 4 points ago +4 / -0

Because Christianity has been replaced by progressivism. That's the new Western state religion.

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18-to-life 1 point ago +1 / -0

Progressivism is a religion, but with no doctrine. So I agree with you, and raise the alarm flag one level higher, since this new religion lacks any formal moral code.

... It’s MORE dangerous than communism.

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slaphappy2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Using the word "man" is hateful towards non-gender-queer binary persons of color.

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Fozra_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes.

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slaphappy2 2 points ago +2 / -0

https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/magazine/article/fighting-monks/

A MUSLIM ARMY quietly set up camp on the Mount of Olives in 1152, preparing for a surprise attack on the city of Jerusalem. Victory seemed certain: Jerusalems Christian ruler, Baldwin, was away in Tripoli.

But during the night, the encamped Muslims were slaughtered in a surprise counterattack that reportedly left 5,000 dead. Who had so heroically saved the city of Jerusalem?

Brothers in a religious order, men who had vowed themselves to poverty, chastity, and obedience.

But these devout men came from new religious groupsmilitary orders known as the Knights Templar and the Hospitallers. They had been commissioned by the pope to defend the Holy Land.

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KeepMarxInTheGround 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Christian Church became feminized.

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CONN_WYNN 3 points ago +3 / -0

I m 33. I feel a need to investigate Christ and Judaism . Is there an age cutoff for noobz?

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CONN_WYNN 1 point ago +1 / -0

Serious ? Btw

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SpaceCadet 3 points ago +3 / -0

THIS

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HoppyHap 3 points ago +3 / -0

“You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men.” Matthew 5:13 This was part of the Sermon on the Mount.

In context, Jesus sets his sights high and wide in this demon-rattling rant. Most people don’t get how controversial this sermon was back in His day. But the religious ELITES, that he aimed it at, certainly understood. Yep, the famous Sermon on the Mount purposely offended the self-righteous elites of his day. It was bold, politically incorrect on steroids.

I often read this and come away with this thought. If Masculinity Is ‘Toxic’, Call Jesus Radioactive. I’ve often heard it said that a person who doesn’t stand for something will fall for anything. We live in a time where taking a stand has become unpopular. In case you haven’t figured it out yet, we are in a war. It is not against flesh and blood, it is not against the abortion doctor, the left-wing bigots, the politicians. No this is a war "against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Where are the men and women who will step up and stand in the gap for the salvation of the city?

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MelodicToad 3 points ago +4 / -1

The comments on this post are blasphemous and give Christians a horrible image. Christ was not militant. Christians are to repeant from their sins, pick up the cross, and believe that Christ died for our sins.

Let us not forget Paul's sufferings, and yet he rejoiced. Lay your treasures up in heaven.

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EvensoAmen 2 points ago +2 / -0

There will be suffering indeed. But we are to stand against evil. Christian's should be the tip of the spear against a wicked culture.

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FetchQuestTroll 2 points ago +2 / -0

mUh OpTIcs!

Christ died for your sins, but sure as shit wasn't endorsing theirs. You have one optic to worry about and that's your judgement before God. If you think ignoring lying, theft, depravity, child trafficking and the murder of elders just in nursing homes (just to name a few) is going to put you in a good light before Him, well, good luck to you.

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MelodicToad 1 point ago +1 / -0

You do not ignore the sins of the world. You preach the grace God had given us through the sacrifice of Jesus.

Did Jesus not live in a time of wickedness? Did he call his disciples to wage war against those who are sinners? No he did not. He called for is to walk in the Spirit.

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havemydata 3 points ago +4 / -1

Crusade?

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KoolKoolWater 2 points ago +2 / -0

In case you’d like to look into/support some based and grounded Christians who speak out against cucked Christian culture.

Just Thinking Podcast (Darrell Harris and Virgil Walker)

Conversations that Matter (Jon Harris)

AD Robles

Cooper Stuff (John Cooper)

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iideathyii 2 points ago +2 / -0

Chrisianity is the path of mercy. Sending people to meet their gods on yoyr terms is a form of mercy. Don't loose sleep.

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EazyRedOfficial 2 points ago +2 / -0

haha, im no where near soft im hard as fuck

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0815 2 points ago +2 / -0

God helps the man who knows to help himself.

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Alphahorizon 2 points ago +2 / -0

If she has to ask, theres isnt much historical inflection going on, on her part.

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MAGA_Flocka_Flame 2 points ago +2 / -0

Non-Newtonion fluids are also soft…

Until you hit them that is

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PocketPosse 2 points ago +2 / -0

I had my largely religious family yell at me because I wouldnt concede that wanting an evil leader dead was "unchristian". Almost like they never read the book. God dropped evil rulers like mosquitoes, and not always in a nice pleasant lighting bolt.

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boomerbutnotOKBoomer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Never forget Christ took a Bullwhip to the traders in the Temple. So going after idiots and crooks with a Bullwhip is well within the realm of possibility for a "Good Christian..."

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OG_MAGA4LIFE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just a few sayings I despise: Vengeance is the Lords It was His Will Trust in the Lord The other cheek Love thy neighbor

They breed weakness, nothing wrong with loving and trusting God, but at some point you need to fight.

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anishr 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who or what is the Lord? Who does His will? What is His will?

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Yssarile 1 point ago +2 / -1

That's why I'm not one. Can't get on board with forgiveness. When people show you that they're the enemy- believe them.

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EvanGRogers 1 point ago +1 / -0

I want a detailed discussion by church fathers, priests, etc, about when killing someone is justified.

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BunnyPicnic 1 point ago +1 / -0

This woman looks like a liberal hippie.

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TheWinningNeverStops 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's why leftists don't fuck with Muslims but do with Christians. Cause they aren't doormats but Christians are.

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Starxteel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Libtard christianity, buncha pansies

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Adhal 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right around the time women got equality and still claimed they were opressed :P

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Rockmanneo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Christian men need to stop just relying on God. When we pray we need to ask for blessings as we about to go to battlefield to whoop some commie's asses.

Bring Crusade back.

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KarenKarenKaren 1 point ago +1 / -0

Roe V Wade killed off the fighting spirit

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UnemployedMarx 1 point ago +1 / -0

Christianity was always a submissive religion that some say was invented by the Jews to subvert Roman values of strength and dominance. The Romans actually saw the threat of Christianity and made a very clever tactical move to fully embrace the religion as their own, known as the Roman Catholic Church. The Romans now had full control of the religion and the Romans taught the religion differently than the way the Jews intended. The Romans made Catholicism a dominant religion that meshed with the Aristotelian ethics of Roman culture. When Rome fell, the Catholics who survived continued to teach this form of Catholicism merged with Aristotelian ethics as a dominant religion and so too did State leaders who were Christian.

When did Christianity become so weak? When the Catholic Church lost control of the religion and protestants started forming to teach real Christianity, the way the Jews intended. The more people moved away from Greek/Roman values and toward pure Christian values as the New Testament describes, the weaker Christians became.

If you want strength you need to reinject Greek/Roman values back in white society and back in Christianity. Christianity on its own is a submissive religion. On the other hand Judaism and Islam are both highly dominant religions.

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EvensoAmen 1 point ago +1 / -0

Submissive to Christ doesn't mean submissive to the culture or Caesar. Christians have gotten this twisted!

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HumansDisgustMe 1 point ago +1 / -0

It became illegal.

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RealAozolai 1 point ago +1 / -0

Only pussies get on their knees in front of evil.

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mean_mission 1 point ago +1 / -0

When did we get to a point that a man had to be soft to be a "good Christian" man?

If she wants me to get hard, she's gonna have to show some skin

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Hugs 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lots of terrible things were done in the name of Christianity too. What the fuck does this have to do with Trump and being anti-SJW?

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Illah88zillah 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly. Ned Flanders is NOT REAL. CHRISTIANS are supposed to be as bold as lions

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JZSquared 1 point ago +1 / -0

The same time that "good Christian women" became whores. Feminism destroys all it touches.

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Space_Force 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ask the faggot sitting in the Vatican.

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Free0fReddit 1 point ago +1 / -0

The "fight" will always be "the fight". A thousand years ago, a thousand years from now.

Fight or die.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

When women defied god and tried to lead man. Repel the 19th.

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cook_does 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was about the time pedophiles took over the Catholic Church and emergent community churches emerged who teach a false doctrine that you can be a total degenerate 6 days a week as long as you tithe and repent on Sunday.