Legally armed Asian rescues white woman from being robbed and gets punished for it. Police chief - “We don’t want people to fire weapons into our community,”
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We need to be calling this dumbass @oaklandpoliceca capt Anyone got a real name?
LeRonne Armstrong
Like are the fucking French lol. Le le le le
Watermeloniqua
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Koolaidandria
You forgot the biggest LeCuck of all
Every. Single. Time. (2.0)
Who's the mayor of Oakland?
Someone bad enough that even the Times of Israel called her out for her stupidity:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-oakland-mayor-defends-decision-to-warn-community-of-immigration-raid/
The Oakland Police Department has a history of long police response times. The city of Oakland is one of the most incompetent and dangerous cities in the US.
Until someone rams his wife's car and everyone with CCW near by does nothing.
ohhhhh hahahahaha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libby_Schaaf why am I not surprised the Oakland governor is a Democrat.
https://twitter.com/LibbySchaaf
https://www.oaklandca.gov/officials/libby-schaaf#page-contact
Phone Number : 510-238-3141 Email Address : [email protected]
worth calling and writing to let he know what you think. be firm but polite.
Pretty much. Those bullets always have to be hitting the target. It's bullshit but that's what the cop thugs want you to do.
In the military they teach you to fire warning shots on certain guard details. I know that for a fact. Crazy that we wouldn’t allow our civilians to use the same potentially life saving techniques.
Our government is nothing if not retarded. They somehow interpreted "right to privacy" to mean "free taxpayer subsidized access to abortions" and "shall not be abridged" to "bans or restrictions on almost all types of firearms."
Have you seen the Commerce Clause, while you're at it? It's used to justify most federal powers because most everything, including breathing, in some way affects "Commerce ... among the several states."
Read the Supreme Court majority opinion on this as well. A farmer was keeping his own corn and using it for other purposes above the amount he was allowed to grow. It never even crossed state lines. BUT they considered that it effected the market.
Precedent doesn't matter. Constitution doesn't matter. All that matter is the whims of the ruling class.
At this point I am fully convinced that democracy has reached a dead end. I would absolutely prefer a conservative autocracy.
Unpopular opinion: the best form of government is benevolent dictatorship. The only problems with benevolent dictatorships are all the malevolent dictatorships in between.
It might work in America if people were actually willing use their guns against tyranny...
Probably not. Every continuum if force class I've received specifically mentioned not to use warning shots. USMC. What branch/detail are you talking about?
If you draw your gun and don't shoot it, that's proof right there you didn't really fear for your life, is what I was taught in training classes.
Army. Guarding ammo facility. It was in writing to fire warning shots whenever possible.
Were you guarding an ammo facility in or near Syria under Michael's Husband? Because I could see him issuing orders to fire "warning shots" and then to retreat. But only to retreat after opening the locks, and helping the intruders load the heavy weapons.
I served under Clinton. Stateside and in Europe/Balkans. The one exception was Stinger ground to air missiles. You were to prevent those from being stolen at all cost.
I did a training exercise (usmc) in the Philippines. one day after a joint range day, local Filipinos tried to raid all the brass to pick up. The Filipino marines fired warning shots at them and our first sergeant flipped his shit cuz we don’t do that in the marines. People in the back of the convoy thought we were under contact. Good times.
You can't fire warning shots in a city as you are responsible for where every single bullet goes.
I'll say you're half right. If you hit somebody with a stray bullet, you should be responsible for that. However, if you simply break up a robbery, potentially save a life, and nobody is harmed, what exactly are you responsible for?
There is also a constitutional argument that you can. There is nothing against warning shots in our constitution. Good luck ever getting our courts to admit that.
In my state you are responsible for where every bullet goes so if you miss and strike a person you can and will get in trouble. Pulling your gun is the warning shot, every shot after that is to end the threat.
I do agree with you but the law isn't going to be followed anymore so we can't look at things from that perspective. Anyone who defends their self or defends another is going to be at least persecuted and at most prosecuted and throw in jail.
Obviously we here all know the Deep State doesn't want anyone to stand up and rebel against unjust authority so examples have to be made but that will backfire on them as it always does.
Do the police have to follow that same rule? In my state I know they shot over 120 rounds at a kid armed with a cellphone, assumed it was a deadly weapon, and kept firing until they killed him. They also hit a random Mexican in the arm who in a bar with one of the strays, he refused to press charges for probably obvious reasons... Oh right "rules for thee but not for me!!!" type BS I'm sure...
Laws are for us plebs only
Get onto juries and nullify those prosecutors.
If we don't fulfill our duty as one of the constitutional checks and balances against corrupt prosecution then we can't complain about the system.
Local is where the battle has to be fought and won. Cities and even some States can be delivered from the Deep State and we can have some safer havens to work out of. Gonna be real difficult as it's going to get very very bad in a short time from now.
When the grocery stores empty out and aren't filled again chaos will ensue.
Let's take that argument ad absurdum, shall we?
How is that an absurd argument?
My willingness to negotiate limitations to the second amendment begins somewhere around ICBMs, but that seems like a real issue if we’re being honest.
I meant let's take it to absurdity. Why? Because any framework you give the legal system will be used to absurdity sooner or later. Every bullet fired that doesn't incapacitate the threat is a "warning shot". More important is the fact that you couldn't fire any bullets anywhere within a 3 mile range of any other human being besides your assailant, ever. You wouldn't even be able to let loose a round if you weren't two inches away from the assailant's brain stem and that doesn't sound like a defensive situation does it? You could never fire a shot around the family you're trying to protect even (and if you doubt that, start shooting steel targets at less than 25 yards and see how bullets ricochet like life is imitating a cartoon). That rules out not just cities but also most counties in America. Except that's not reality. How can we know that? Well, police have no problem firing their guns in cities or any other populated area. You could say they're better trained but they're not and they miss a LOT. So should we put in rules just to hassle citizens? You would if you had other goals besides safety. Why? Because police and citizens both almost never shoot innocent bystanders in collateral fire. Both miss (a lot) under stress and yet very few people end up shot with the bullets that penetrate through a body or miss entirely. Where do people get shot by stray bullets? I'm glad you asked and it's places like Chiraq where people already engaged in criminal behavior spray bullets at rival gangs or drug dealers in an attempt to send a message or just through sheer incompetence. The other exception being the (maybe hilarious, though not to the people inside) times police "misidentify a suspect's car" and pump it full of bullets. But let's talk about warning shots. A ridiculous amount of violent encounters get stopped by "brandishing" and "warning shots". The police know this, the citizenry knows this and the courts know it. But legally speaking, warning shots are still not allowed. If the person who flashed a gun or fired a warning shot wasn't defending themselves, they can be charged with other crimes. The only time someone would only fall under brandishing or warning shot violations would be if they were engaged in a defensive situation, used their gun appropriately and the legal system was being used to punish them and send a message to other citizens that they shouldn't use their guns in self defense. It's understandable if a bullet whizzes past you and you get upset, that makes sense; I would too. But focus your rustled jimmies on the criminal rather than the person defending themselves from a criminal. If a citizen engages in self defense and shoots your property, they're liable (it gets replaced or you get compensated and all is well with the world). If a citizen engages in self defense and hits a bystander, it's a minimum of manslaughter. So what exactly are we talking about here, "poorly" worded gun control meant to hassle the citizenry? You needn't look further than NY, CA, MA or NJ to see some of this absurdity being successfully litigated.
All according to plan.
He'd be facing murder charges if he had shot and killed them. Facing charges for shooting at them is bad enough. In a Democrat controlled jurisdiction like Oakland they are guaranteed to maliciously prosecute anyone who dares to defend themselves or others to make an example out of them.
By this logic we should charge arresting police officers with kidnapping if they arrest anyone who isn't found guilty.
Warning shots are against every police policy I have ever seen or heard of. Shoot to stop the threat. If they are doing something that deserves warning shots then they deserve center mass shots.
This is correct.
Yes. Even if you are weak-willed and still want to fire a warning shot, you have to say that you missed, or you will be arrested. Of course, the warning shot can't be in the air.
Just police. The point being that warning shots could end up hitting an innocent person. If someone deserves to be shot then the bullets should be headed at them and only them.
If I shoot the earth in front of me there is no bystander worry, and in some scenarios people arent seeing the gun, like a fight is going on between two people and they dont realize theres a gun out through the commotion.
You don't want to risk getting in harms way and you cant let them keep fighting because they might seriously hurt each other. Warning shots arent without use, nothing is black and white and the government just wants to target gun owners any way they can.
If he had killed them he'd be facing murder charges and civil suits as well. The message is in the posted tweet: "do nothing". Leftists don't believe that anyone has a right to defend themselves.
Yea, the rules never apply to them.
Legally speaking, going by case law and precedent, you are better off in court if you kill an attacker rather than wound or scare him.
Not really a scared or wounded attacker will just do it again, a dead one can't harm anymore people through their stupidity.
If you own a gun. No matter what the circumstances you should be prepared to face litigation if you discharge your weapon. Shit, you can get sued if a burglar injures HIMSELF on your property. It’s bullshit, but seems to be true.
Bay Area : We need to highlight and solve the Black on Asian racist attack problem. Oakland: Hold my crack pipe. We'll punish the asians for defending against black violent crimes.
Asians being victimized by blacks? Blame white supremacy.
Pede, didn't you get the memo? Asians are white.
See also, conservative hispanics.
Soon, all straight Christian black men will be white too.
No, blame Trump for calling covid the China Virus!
We all know how calling the new variant UK Virus has lead to a sudden spike in hate crimes against the Europeans!
Sounds about right.
https://patriots.win/p/12hRZfuB5V/on-antiasian-hate-crimes-who-is-/c/
I think the police said as much. They said they don’t want to leave the message that people should be arming themselves. Also I think but I’m not sure, the owner may have admitted he fired warning shots. DONT ever do that or admit to that for many reasons.
The fact of the matter is, if you use a gun for self defense in a Democrat controlled jurisdiction, you are almost certainly going to jail. The charges you face will be determined based on what you did with the gun, but even drawing it and brandishing it will be charged in most cases.
Better tried by 12 than carried by 6.
Agreed, but I’d prefer to avoid both.
Decisions like this will bring about enormous levels of vigilante justice, but that is the desired outcome, violence.
People should absolutely arm themselves.
Is it possible that we can get some crowd funding going to help him with his legal costs for his defense?
Great idea but Gofundme has actively taken down peoples defense funds or other pollical or ideological funds that they dont agree with.
There are alternatives
GiveSendGo are based
Won't help this person now, but anyone with a CCW that actually carries should absolutely have a CCW insurance plan. It will pay for itself 100x over if you ever have to put down some thug in a blue city like this where the DAs are on the side of the thugs.
Shoot em, ..and Don't tell anybody. ;p
Illegal in NY. Not sure about CA.
It's illegal to pay to keep a lawyer on retainer in NY? Isnt that all CCW insurance is? A monthly/yearly retainer?
you can have a retainer - what is illegal is civil liability insurance
They want you to keep doing nothing up to the point they put you up against a wall and shoot you in the back of the head.
Let me re-phrase that: They want bystanders accustomed to doing nothing, because then they won’t have to worry about bystanders interfering while they’re putting you up against the wall.
Things have gone from “see something, do something,” to “see something, say something,” to “see something, keep your fucking head down and mind your own goddamn business,” and that’s the way those in power like it.
Should have discharged it into the perps brain stem.
kyle rittenhouse is all of us. watershed moment. this shit will continue
It's disgusting here now. I have a lot of friends in SFPD and OPD and they're completely dejected. They've been handcuffed, no pun intended, so bad that they can't do anything any more. Someone commits armed robbery? They arrest them and then see them walk out of the police station before they're even done with the paperwork.
Thanks no bail laws.
See someone rummaging through a vehicle with a broken window and then they run away when they see you? You can't engage. You didn't see them break the window so you don't know if it's a car break in. I wish I was joking about this but it's verbatim SFPD policy.
SF DA is an actual dometic terrorist.
Oakland uses ranked choice so....
I would be trying to find a job elsewhere and leave. I don’t see how any police officer can tolerate this sort of nonsense.
I mean this is anarchotyranny, where the government refuses to protect innocent citizens because it sides with the criminals. Normally that happens because the criminals are actually working for the government (such as vote buying etc.) The criminals can also act as proxy enforcers for government in this situation.
It is anarchotryanny but I can't just leave. I'm 6th generation San Franciscan on my fathers side. My family literally built and protected this city for generations before the degenerates took over.
I own a successful small business that employees a few dozen skill tradesmen. Packing up and leaving isn't for everyone. I would love to be in a position to move the whole company with the employees to another state but that's not reality.
In my conceal carry class, the instructor basically said to not help or get involved in another person's problem. If you do, you'd likely get punished.
Warning shoots are not legal or ever ever ever appropriate in the USA. You pull the trigger you fire to end the threat. Period. Full stop.
Which is shitty, because a farmer firing a little bird shot is a perfectly clear way, to say "get the fuck off my land" without ever having to come within range of anyone getting hurt.
It required more clarification to my beer haze mind then.... but your right it’s the same thing. Sorry bro
Why should the risk of punishment stop us from doing the right thing? Yeah sure if I'm carrying I'm not going to get myself involved in a verbal altercation or whatever. But if I see someone getting robbed or beaten up you better believe I'm going to step in legal risk be damned.
I'm a big, grown ass man and I wouldn't go to Oakland.
Thry dont want you doing nothing, they want you dying.
And people somehow still wonder what happened to Roof Koreans.
Yep, the Democrats have made malicious prosecution of self defense a real deterrent for Roof Koreans and anyone else who wants to defend themselves and their property.
Call me crazy but....I don't think people want to be robbed and rammed with a car in the community.
....BINGO....
And their pigs who just follow orders!
Nuts, just nuts.
Hope he had legal service plan...you never want to fire your weapon as there could always be legal consequences, even when you’re in the right as it appears is the case here.
In a Democrat controlled jurisdiction you especially need to keep that in mind. They will maliciously prosecute any use of a firearm for self defense.
Yes. If it’s a legit reason to pull a gun, it’s legit to kill or be killed - not much of a choice. Your life has to be clearly in danger and you have to fear for your life. They will try and fail to prosecute...but will make life miserable for somebody and cost them $$$. Best option is to move away from the threat before it can occur and during a situation. Have CCW protection and, nice as they may seem politely refuse to answer questions to the police until you speak with a lawyer.
What a worthless POS Police “Chief” - but I shouldn’t be surprised since he’s in a POS city.
Captain Armstrong needs to be made famous. Anyone have his coordinates?
Well, here's his picture for starters.
Why am I not surprised. 🤣😞
Fire this police captain immediately.
Still worth it. A real man will always do what's right in the face of injustice.
Ah, got it. Only government authorities have the right to protect people from being murdered.
Us peasants don't have the right to defend people from being murdered.
The thing is, I am beginning to agree that we need to abolish police in blue areas.
If the message from the police is "don't help fellow people in need", then we are honestly better off on our own.
That captain needs to be overthrown!
That police chief must be fired immediately and jailed.
I work with a lot of Asians at a big tech firm. They have been stocking up heavily and putting in a lot of range time over the past year. Their anger is palpable. The conversations that would typically happen in the confines of their ancestral language have spilled over across boundaries of Asian country heritage. Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, and Chinese are speaking openly in English about these transgressions.
Looks like the police don’t want to do anything either.
No good deed ever goes unpunished.
Asians are increasingly being considered honorary whites by the woke so this makes sense from the woke perspective.
Oh, oakland. Right on par. Drive liberals out of town wherever you find them.
Fagcop you are getting your rights from the people you stupid fuck
Same Oakland police boning dozens of pros in custody. The da’s, and top brass are corrupted to the gills.
Because of course, California.
Cops in most of the country are simply worthless
Bet the jury lets this fellow walk...
Not guaranteed in a Democrat stronghold like Oakland. It's likely to be a heavily leftist jury pool.
Hopefully in this case he gets a Bronx jury, but that area is very “rich and vibrant” from what I understand. I’ll be keeping an eye on this one for sure.
Marxist Tyranny. Same everywhere in sf bay area. Crims have more rights than law abiders. Illyz have more rights than citizens. Dui have more rights than pedestrians etc etc
By doing nothing the woman can sue next. So live in California and you will be punished
DISOBEY
You inspired me: https://patriots.win/p/12hReNhorw/
Public officials should not be ineligible to be sued for their choices and actions.
How long until some libtard says the Chinese store owner firing warning shots at the youths was white supremacy?
It's bad kharma, man.
You tell the people to do nothing,
Kharma will come, and put you in a situation, where your survival will depend on the people doing something.
And if they do nothing, listen to you, you....Die.
:/
WTF?
He targeted the wrong crooks. The really dangerous ones are at city hall, and they will keep doing this until they are stopped.
This is why it's best to do what's right snd run away and completely ignore the law.
This Captain needs to be let go immediately. I would look to transfer if I worked there. I’m not gonna trust that Captain to have my back if I have to use my service pistol.
If the police chief made a statement that he was motivated by political concerns, pretty sure the shop owner can use that against him
There need to be mass protests outside this police department.
That "chief" is RACIST!