In the military they teach you to fire warning shots on certain guard details. I know that for a fact. Crazy that we wouldn’t allow our civilians to use the same potentially life saving techniques.
Our government is nothing if not retarded. They somehow interpreted "right to privacy" to mean "free taxpayer subsidized access to abortions" and "shall not be abridged" to "bans or restrictions on almost all types of firearms."
Have you seen the Commerce Clause, while you're at it? It's used to justify most federal powers because most everything, including breathing, in some way affects "Commerce ... among the several states."
Read the Supreme Court majority opinion on this as well. A farmer was keeping his own corn and using it for other purposes above the amount he was allowed to grow. It never even crossed state lines. BUT they considered that it effected the market.
Unpopular opinion: the best form of government is benevolent dictatorship. The only problems with benevolent dictatorships are all the malevolent dictatorships in between.
Probably not. Every continuum if force class I've received specifically mentioned not to use warning shots. USMC. What branch/detail are you talking about?
Were you guarding an ammo facility in or near Syria under Michael's Husband? Because I could see him issuing orders to fire "warning shots" and then to retreat. But only to retreat after opening the locks, and helping the intruders load the heavy weapons.
I did a training exercise (usmc) in the Philippines. one day after a joint range day, local Filipinos tried to raid all the brass to pick up. The Filipino marines fired warning shots at them and our first sergeant flipped his shit cuz we don’t do that in the marines. People in the back of the convoy thought we were under contact. Good times.
I'll say you're half right. If you hit somebody with a stray bullet, you should be responsible for that. However, if you simply break up a robbery, potentially save a life, and nobody is harmed, what exactly are you responsible for?
There is also a constitutional argument that you can. There is nothing against warning shots in our constitution. Good luck ever getting our courts to admit that.
In my state you are responsible for where every bullet goes so if you miss and strike a person you can and will get in trouble. Pulling your gun is the warning shot, every shot after that is to end the threat.
I do agree with you but the law isn't going to be followed anymore so we can't look at things from that perspective. Anyone who defends their self or defends another is going to be at least persecuted and at most prosecuted and throw in jail.
Obviously we here all know the Deep State doesn't want anyone to stand up and rebel against unjust authority so examples have to be made but that will backfire on them as it always does.
He'd be facing murder charges if he had shot and killed them. Facing charges for shooting at them is bad enough. In a Democrat controlled jurisdiction like Oakland they are guaranteed to maliciously prosecute anyone who dares to defend themselves or others to make an example out of them.
Pretty much. Those bullets always have to be hitting the target. It's bullshit but that's what the cop thugs want you to do.
In the military they teach you to fire warning shots on certain guard details. I know that for a fact. Crazy that we wouldn’t allow our civilians to use the same potentially life saving techniques.
Our government is nothing if not retarded. They somehow interpreted "right to privacy" to mean "free taxpayer subsidized access to abortions" and "shall not be abridged" to "bans or restrictions on almost all types of firearms."
Have you seen the Commerce Clause, while you're at it? It's used to justify most federal powers because most everything, including breathing, in some way affects "Commerce ... among the several states."
Read the Supreme Court majority opinion on this as well. A farmer was keeping his own corn and using it for other purposes above the amount he was allowed to grow. It never even crossed state lines. BUT they considered that it effected the market.
At this point I am fully convinced that democracy has reached a dead end. I would absolutely prefer a conservative autocracy.
Unpopular opinion: the best form of government is benevolent dictatorship. The only problems with benevolent dictatorships are all the malevolent dictatorships in between.
Probably not. Every continuum if force class I've received specifically mentioned not to use warning shots. USMC. What branch/detail are you talking about?
If you draw your gun and don't shoot it, that's proof right there you didn't really fear for your life, is what I was taught in training classes.
Army. Guarding ammo facility. It was in writing to fire warning shots whenever possible.
Were you guarding an ammo facility in or near Syria under Michael's Husband? Because I could see him issuing orders to fire "warning shots" and then to retreat. But only to retreat after opening the locks, and helping the intruders load the heavy weapons.
I did a training exercise (usmc) in the Philippines. one day after a joint range day, local Filipinos tried to raid all the brass to pick up. The Filipino marines fired warning shots at them and our first sergeant flipped his shit cuz we don’t do that in the marines. People in the back of the convoy thought we were under contact. Good times.
You can't fire warning shots in a city as you are responsible for where every single bullet goes.
I'll say you're half right. If you hit somebody with a stray bullet, you should be responsible for that. However, if you simply break up a robbery, potentially save a life, and nobody is harmed, what exactly are you responsible for?
There is also a constitutional argument that you can. There is nothing against warning shots in our constitution. Good luck ever getting our courts to admit that.
In my state you are responsible for where every bullet goes so if you miss and strike a person you can and will get in trouble. Pulling your gun is the warning shot, every shot after that is to end the threat.
I do agree with you but the law isn't going to be followed anymore so we can't look at things from that perspective. Anyone who defends their self or defends another is going to be at least persecuted and at most prosecuted and throw in jail.
Obviously we here all know the Deep State doesn't want anyone to stand up and rebel against unjust authority so examples have to be made but that will backfire on them as it always does.
Let's take that argument ad absurdum, shall we?
How is that an absurd argument?
My willingness to negotiate limitations to the second amendment begins somewhere around ICBMs, but that seems like a real issue if we’re being honest.
All according to plan.
He'd be facing murder charges if he had shot and killed them. Facing charges for shooting at them is bad enough. In a Democrat controlled jurisdiction like Oakland they are guaranteed to maliciously prosecute anyone who dares to defend themselves or others to make an example out of them.
By this logic we should charge arresting police officers with kidnapping if they arrest anyone who isn't found guilty.