It did surprise me a bit that the tweet played fast and loose with the facts. The fact is that the State of TX was granted enough wiggle room to produce as much as needed. That permission, granted in the "eleventh hour" yet still reasonable timeframe(The Sunday night before the shit really hit the fan here in TX), came with a litany of caveats, penalties, reporting requirements and price caps to be sorted out later.
Since I actually took the time to read the letters and attempt to digest all the minutiae, I can see permission was granted. It galls me that the only other person that seems to see this has chosen the handle "scumcunt."
The real facts on the ground for individual users in TX is that our energy comes from myriad sources. Many of the generating sources were hobbled by the impacts of the weather at the source. Even if they hadn't been, there were still outages due to infrastructure damage as banal as a tree limb falling on a transmission line. Many people simply ran out of propane in their own personal tanks, trucks couldn't reach them to refill due to icy roads. Does anyone really want a truck loaded with potentially explosive gas riding around on TX Hill Country icy roads? Add to this that many homes and the overall infrastructure simply aren't built to a standard to meet an unprecedented event compounded the trouble. The real bottom line is that this is an unfortunate event, an act of nature, and is being hyperpolitized as a political hot potato like every other aspect of our society. That is the real shame of it all.
In the not so distant past, say 40 years ago, we could all have agreed that a 4-day hard freeze in South Texas was an unprecedented event in modern times. We could have simply regarded it as a call to set new standards for our personal and public infrastructure. We wouldn't have needed to tear each other apart, or provide false witness for political gain. Somewhere in my heart I still believe the general public is smart enough to see that. All that said, Biden sucks. That's the truth.
What? Sure I’ll do these weird exercises for you. When answered sufficiently will you acknowledge that you posted fake news?
“Waive”, in this instance, is to grant a reprieve (give a waiver) from certain pollution reduction measures as requested by Governor Abbot for the duration of the emergency.
Yes and I linked it because I like to check primary sources and not listen to nobodies on twitter. It’s four pages long and was attached to the tweet.
Sure. ERCOT requested a waiver to emit more of certain pollutants as the deemed necessary in order to provide the public with uninterrupted power. Specifically; “ ERCOT anticipates that this Order may result in exceedance of emissions of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury, and carbon monoxide emissions, as well as wastewater release limits.”
It was issued on Valentine’s Day at 8:51pm and was scheduled to remain in effect until 11:59pm on 2-19.
Waive = unblock. You can't unblock if you don't block in the first place. When was the request made and when did the adverse whether conditions start? It took two days to come through.
What would you call the rest of the document? Screw it, I'll just tell you. Further restrictions and inhibition, massive red tape. Almost prohibitive conditions. So not an unconditional waiver but with strings attached.
A massive price hike at a time when emergency power is needed for a few days? Enormous markup.
Who even picked that figure? Why $1500? Who foots the bill? This might as well be a fake waiver for plausible deniability.
If you're going to be Mr Pedantic read the whole thing and don't fall for their scam. These are corrupt people. These are the games they play. There's no such thing as a waiver. There's always a price attached to everything.
I was typing out another response to you, I’ll drop it at the end of this because it gets into the discussion of “waiver” I was being kinda lazy with what is a very specific term of art in the federal government. This is technically an “order”, but if you want to play ‘gotcha’ with a dictionary then this won’t get anywhere. You’d have to go to the federal register to figure out what a waiver is to the DOE anyway, that don’t just copy and past from Webster’s...
The request was made on the 14th and it came through on the 14th. Read the primary source. “ On February 14, 2021, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), the Independent System Operator (ISO) whose service territory includes 90 percent of the electric customers in the state of Texas, filed a Request for Emergency Order Under Section 202(c) of the Federal Power Act (Application) with the United States Department of Energy (Department) “to preserve the reliability of bulk electric system”
Yeah. The rest of the document, after, “do what needs to be done” does ask for a report of what happened after the 19th. One of my main beefs with the federal government is that too often transparency leads to a slow moving process. It’s tough for me. If there is going to be a massive federal bureaucracy, I like to know what they are doing. Also, where did I say that the DOE order was, “unconditional” but more importantly, why was it not brought up that Abbots request was granted, however feebly, by no one else in the thread.
I don’t understand the relevance of the price fixing link. Edit: sorry, moving too fast, responded to another person and came back to this. Yes, every watt generated that resulted in “excessive” pollution was extortion.
It’s extortion, the entire Texas energy system (well, the entire US, but that isn’t the subject) is extortionate, but that is only for any of this excess power that is needed that would go over pollution controls, not every watt generated.
Would it surprise you that this tweet isn’t true and that actually the Biden administration did grant the waiver request?
Start at the second full paragraph on page two. Biden didn’t stop them from generating more electricity and waived the pollution control standards.
It did surprise me a bit that the tweet played fast and loose with the facts. The fact is that the State of TX was granted enough wiggle room to produce as much as needed. That permission, granted in the "eleventh hour" yet still reasonable timeframe(The Sunday night before the shit really hit the fan here in TX), came with a litany of caveats, penalties, reporting requirements and price caps to be sorted out later.
Since I actually took the time to read the letters and attempt to digest all the minutiae, I can see permission was granted. It galls me that the only other person that seems to see this has chosen the handle "scumcunt." The real facts on the ground for individual users in TX is that our energy comes from myriad sources. Many of the generating sources were hobbled by the impacts of the weather at the source. Even if they hadn't been, there were still outages due to infrastructure damage as banal as a tree limb falling on a transmission line. Many people simply ran out of propane in their own personal tanks, trucks couldn't reach them to refill due to icy roads. Does anyone really want a truck loaded with potentially explosive gas riding around on TX Hill Country icy roads? Add to this that many homes and the overall infrastructure simply aren't built to a standard to meet an unprecedented event compounded the trouble. The real bottom line is that this is an unfortunate event, an act of nature, and is being hyperpolitized as a political hot potato like every other aspect of our society. That is the real shame of it all. In the not so distant past, say 40 years ago, we could all have agreed that a 4-day hard freeze in South Texas was an unprecedented event in modern times. We could have simply regarded it as a call to set new standards for our personal and public infrastructure. We wouldn't have needed to tear each other apart, or provide false witness for political gain. Somewhere in my heart I still believe the general public is smart enough to see that. All that said, Biden sucks. That's the truth.
Can you define the term waive to me?
Have you read the rest of the paper?
Can you say exactly what is waived?
Have you read the date?
What? Sure I’ll do these weird exercises for you. When answered sufficiently will you acknowledge that you posted fake news?
“Waive”, in this instance, is to grant a reprieve (give a waiver) from certain pollution reduction measures as requested by Governor Abbot for the duration of the emergency.
Yes and I linked it because I like to check primary sources and not listen to nobodies on twitter. It’s four pages long and was attached to the tweet.
Sure. ERCOT requested a waiver to emit more of certain pollutants as the deemed necessary in order to provide the public with uninterrupted power. Specifically; “ ERCOT anticipates that this Order may result in exceedance of emissions of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury, and carbon monoxide emissions, as well as wastewater release limits.”
It was issued on Valentine’s Day at 8:51pm and was scheduled to remain in effect until 11:59pm on 2-19.
But why take my word for it? Read it yourself https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE%20202%28c%29%20Emergency%20Order%20-%20ERCOT%2002.14.2021.pdf
Waive = unblock. You can't unblock if you don't block in the first place. When was the request made and when did the adverse whether conditions start? It took two days to come through.
What would you call the rest of the document? Screw it, I'll just tell you. Further restrictions and inhibition, massive red tape. Almost prohibitive conditions. So not an unconditional waiver but with strings attached.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing
A massive price hike at a time when emergency power is needed for a few days? Enormous markup.
Who even picked that figure? Why $1500? Who foots the bill? This might as well be a fake waiver for plausible deniability.
If you're going to be Mr Pedantic read the whole thing and don't fall for their scam. These are corrupt people. These are the games they play. There's no such thing as a waiver. There's always a price attached to everything.
I was typing out another response to you, I’ll drop it at the end of this because it gets into the discussion of “waiver” I was being kinda lazy with what is a very specific term of art in the federal government. This is technically an “order”, but if you want to play ‘gotcha’ with a dictionary then this won’t get anywhere. You’d have to go to the federal register to figure out what a waiver is to the DOE anyway, that don’t just copy and past from Webster’s... The request was made on the 14th and it came through on the 14th. Read the primary source. “ On February 14, 2021, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), the Independent System Operator (ISO) whose service territory includes 90 percent of the electric customers in the state of Texas, filed a Request for Emergency Order Under Section 202(c) of the Federal Power Act (Application) with the United States Department of Energy (Department) “to preserve the reliability of bulk electric system” Yeah. The rest of the document, after, “do what needs to be done” does ask for a report of what happened after the 19th. One of my main beefs with the federal government is that too often transparency leads to a slow moving process. It’s tough for me. If there is going to be a massive federal bureaucracy, I like to know what they are doing. Also, where did I say that the DOE order was, “unconditional” but more importantly, why was it not brought up that Abbots request was granted, however feebly, by no one else in the thread. I don’t understand the relevance of the price fixing link. Edit: sorry, moving too fast, responded to another person and came back to this. Yes, every watt generated that resulted in “excessive” pollution was extortion.
Aptly named, scumcunt. Do you think the waiver counts if they’re required to charge $1500/megawatt hour?
It’s extortion, the entire Texas energy system (well, the entire US, but that isn’t the subject) is extortionate, but that is only for any of this excess power that is needed that would go over pollution controls, not every watt generated.