True but it's complicated. This is why when people get into fascist/socialist/communist/capitalist debates involved Nazis it gets so complicated.
The capitalism that the Germans opposed was neoliberal globalism. What we have today. A capitalist system that siphons value from one country then injects it into another country in order to maximize the value for the owners of the capital but not necessarily the people of the nation.
In reality though, the Nazis ran a fairly capitalist system but with heavy nationalistic controls. Modern socialists have a difficult time calling Nazis socialists in the modern use of the word because of the existence of capital. Many free market capitalists contend that Nazis were in fact effectively socialists due to their controls.
Fact of the matter is that the values inherent in Marxism/Communism are alive and well today. Modern leftists are essentially communist and their social justice is nothing more than marxism applied at every level of society not just class warfare. This leads to the degradation of society's moral values and overall causes division and mediocrity. This cultural marxism has made it easy for the neoliberal globalists to continue siphoning value from one country to the next at the expense of the people. A person's labour in one country might actually be going toward hurting his own community and helping a foreigners communist. This disconnect from a person's labour toward actually helping himself and his community has created a huge issue for people in society.
The average Joe is being distracted from the truth of the matter by getting caught up in believing communism is the solution when communism is really just a way for the elite to control the masses. A upper class of people who control an equal underclass. Modern feudalism essentially, which is what communism always diverges into. You're already seeing the merging of corporations into the moral and political aspects of society which is what fascism (not necessarily Nazis) was envisioned as but without the nationalistic rationale for this merger. Instead it's a global effort done to the benefit of globalism not to the benefit of specific nations.
The solution to today's problems is nationalism. A capitalist economy that is nationalistic in nature is going to appear somewhat similar to National Socialism, though arguably if you really want to, you could say it's more like National Capitalism to make yourself feel better if you're a capitalist and hate socialism.
American patriotic nationalism is nothing like German National Socialism. And it's not complicated. The German Jews weren't Communists like some people would have you believe. They were capitalists.
I think there's actually a reason the left is quick to call American patriots Nazis. You actually have far more in common than you realize or care to admit. Again, your enemy is the same, whether we call them neoliberal globalists, international communists, neofeudalists etc... The solution to the problem is nationalism. Capital exists but capitalism should be used to improve the country not the international community.
And if you go after the globalists as well as the people subverting your culture, you'll find a disproportionate amount of people in positions of power or influence to be Jewish.
Most American Patriotic Nationalists oppose classes and thus value equality in that sense but they recognize hard work leading to different outcomes which is embraced as good rather than opposed as systematic oppression.
This in effect makes you pretty close to Nazis. The similarities are there which is why the comparison gets drawn often. The fact patriots want to protect, defend and promote their traditional culture, which is white male christian dominant, again, leads to more Nazi comparisons.
I see people creating new accounts on a regular basis to push Nazi propaganda on this site and other sites.
This seems calculated.
It's almost like people want Trump supporters to believe they're the Nazis the left has been calling us for a long time.
American Antifa was calling any and every conservative speaker on the West Coast a Nazi since 2015. The left has called every conservative presidential candidate a Nazi since at least Nixon.
No. There isn't a fair comparison. It's a label used to defame people you don't know, and to control the voter base.
I've been here for a year with diff accounts. There's no calculated Nazi "propaganda" push lol. You realize the .win community pretty much have a full blown Nazi spinoff .win here, right? Doesn't take much for people to come to patriots.win from that spinoff. Blame the mods. But there was tons of Nazi stuff on here a year ago also, actually I'd say more so a year ago.
You're never going to defeat the left if you care what they think. If comparisons to Nazis makes you uncomfortable then they already won. That's why they push it because there's a weak spot in people where they've been classically conditioned to evoke a strong emotional response to Hitler and Nazis which then leads to them shutting off their logical reasoning part of the brain. It's a very effective technique. The way to combat it is actually to push back on the narrative and actually have the discussion regarding Nazis/Fascism/Jews. The more people refuse that have that discussion the easier it is to keep the blind spot going and keep the Nazis accusations as the ultimate form of derailing any resistance to modern leftism.
Think about it like this. You accuse a leftist as being a communist and what does he do? He says yeah he's a communist but all the times communist was tried wasn't real communism. And that's accepted. It's so accepted that people call themselves communists openly in society. If someone calls you a Nazi, saying "I believe in nationalism over globalism and I think international banking is a huge problem in society. We could definitely use for some unity in this society and I think multiculturalism is actually destabilizing the nation, making it easier for the wealthy elite to extract value from labourers at the expense of the nation while everyone focuses on the wrong issues instead of focusing on issues that would actually improve the lives of people. I also believe sexual liberation is a form of political control used by the wealthy elite again as a distraction measure and I think modern feminism, LGBTQ+ and this sexual deviance in society is destroying the nuclear family making us more reliant on immigrants, causing massive mental health issues, lowering overall happiness and making our children nothing more than State assets to be used like cattle toward enhancing the ends of the global elites which is again destabilizing the nation's unity making it easier for the masses to be exploited by the elite. So in that manner I do share a lot in common with National Socialists but I prefer to call myself a National Capitalist and my nation is the United States of America not Germany and I believe our nation is a nation of multiple races not a nation of a single race but we do need an underlying sense of morality that should be rooted in self-improvement and the betterment of the nation not this moral decadence the left promotes.
Let them draw the comparison and accept the comparison because there are similarities but then discuss your differences. If you truly understand Nazis and can speak to the similarities and differences it completely destroys their attack angle.
True but it's complicated. This is why when people get into fascist/socialist/communist/capitalist debates involved Nazis it gets so complicated.
The capitalism that the Germans opposed was neoliberal globalism. What we have today. A capitalist system that siphons value from one country then injects it into another country in order to maximize the value for the owners of the capital but not necessarily the people of the nation.
In reality though, the Nazis ran a fairly capitalist system but with heavy nationalistic controls. Modern socialists have a difficult time calling Nazis socialists in the modern use of the word because of the existence of capital. Many free market capitalists contend that Nazis were in fact effectively socialists due to their controls.
Fact of the matter is that the values inherent in Marxism/Communism are alive and well today. Modern leftists are essentially communist and their social justice is nothing more than marxism applied at every level of society not just class warfare. This leads to the degradation of society's moral values and overall causes division and mediocrity. This cultural marxism has made it easy for the neoliberal globalists to continue siphoning value from one country to the next at the expense of the people. A person's labour in one country might actually be going toward hurting his own community and helping a foreigners communist. This disconnect from a person's labour toward actually helping himself and his community has created a huge issue for people in society.
The average Joe is being distracted from the truth of the matter by getting caught up in believing communism is the solution when communism is really just a way for the elite to control the masses. A upper class of people who control an equal underclass. Modern feudalism essentially, which is what communism always diverges into. You're already seeing the merging of corporations into the moral and political aspects of society which is what fascism (not necessarily Nazis) was envisioned as but without the nationalistic rationale for this merger. Instead it's a global effort done to the benefit of globalism not to the benefit of specific nations.
The solution to today's problems is nationalism. A capitalist economy that is nationalistic in nature is going to appear somewhat similar to National Socialism, though arguably if you really want to, you could say it's more like National Capitalism to make yourself feel better if you're a capitalist and hate socialism.
American patriotic nationalism is nothing like German National Socialism. And it's not complicated. The German Jews weren't Communists like some people would have you believe. They were capitalists.
I think there's actually a reason the left is quick to call American patriots Nazis. You actually have far more in common than you realize or care to admit. Again, your enemy is the same, whether we call them neoliberal globalists, international communists, neofeudalists etc... The solution to the problem is nationalism. Capital exists but capitalism should be used to improve the country not the international community.
And if you go after the globalists as well as the people subverting your culture, you'll find a disproportionate amount of people in positions of power or influence to be Jewish.
Most American Patriotic Nationalists oppose classes and thus value equality in that sense but they recognize hard work leading to different outcomes which is embraced as good rather than opposed as systematic oppression.
This in effect makes you pretty close to Nazis. The similarities are there which is why the comparison gets drawn often. The fact patriots want to protect, defend and promote their traditional culture, which is white male christian dominant, again, leads to more Nazi comparisons.
Here's what I see.
I see people creating new accounts on a regular basis to push Nazi propaganda on this site and other sites.
This seems calculated.
It's almost like people want Trump supporters to believe they're the Nazis the left has been calling us for a long time.
American Antifa was calling any and every conservative speaker on the West Coast a Nazi since 2015. The left has called every conservative presidential candidate a Nazi since at least Nixon.
No. There isn't a fair comparison. It's a label used to defame people you don't know, and to control the voter base.
I've been here for a year with diff accounts. There's no calculated Nazi "propaganda" push lol. You realize the .win community pretty much have a full blown Nazi spinoff .win here, right? Doesn't take much for people to come to patriots.win from that spinoff. Blame the mods. But there was tons of Nazi stuff on here a year ago also, actually I'd say more so a year ago.
You're never going to defeat the left if you care what they think. If comparisons to Nazis makes you uncomfortable then they already won. That's why they push it because there's a weak spot in people where they've been classically conditioned to evoke a strong emotional response to Hitler and Nazis which then leads to them shutting off their logical reasoning part of the brain. It's a very effective technique. The way to combat it is actually to push back on the narrative and actually have the discussion regarding Nazis/Fascism/Jews. The more people refuse that have that discussion the easier it is to keep the blind spot going and keep the Nazis accusations as the ultimate form of derailing any resistance to modern leftism.
Think about it like this. You accuse a leftist as being a communist and what does he do? He says yeah he's a communist but all the times communist was tried wasn't real communism. And that's accepted. It's so accepted that people call themselves communists openly in society. If someone calls you a Nazi, saying "I believe in nationalism over globalism and I think international banking is a huge problem in society. We could definitely use for some unity in this society and I think multiculturalism is actually destabilizing the nation, making it easier for the wealthy elite to extract value from labourers at the expense of the nation while everyone focuses on the wrong issues instead of focusing on issues that would actually improve the lives of people. I also believe sexual liberation is a form of political control used by the wealthy elite again as a distraction measure and I think modern feminism, LGBTQ+ and this sexual deviance in society is destroying the nuclear family making us more reliant on immigrants, causing massive mental health issues, lowering overall happiness and making our children nothing more than State assets to be used like cattle toward enhancing the ends of the global elites which is again destabilizing the nation's unity making it easier for the masses to be exploited by the elite. So in that manner I do share a lot in common with National Socialists but I prefer to call myself a National Capitalist and my nation is the United States of America not Germany and I believe our nation is a nation of multiple races not a nation of a single race but we do need an underlying sense of morality that should be rooted in self-improvement and the betterment of the nation not this moral decadence the left promotes.
Let them draw the comparison and accept the comparison because there are similarities but then discuss your differences. If you truly understand Nazis and can speak to the similarities and differences it completely destroys their attack angle.