America is highly weakened right now. People are angry and are probably going to just revolt sure, but with America stretching itself thin, it falls apart as a global superpower and leaves vulnerable to foreign influences.
As we Balkanize, we're going to split into factions that are foreign backed and controlled. We'd become the middle east - a soup of proxy wars over our nuclear assets. The only way to avoid this is a quick revolt. One that takes out the key players and QUICKLY resets the government over to Trump while removing basically everyone else and trying again.
With a refortified constitution - question is, could we do that? probably not. Despite the problems, we're still too comfortable.
Stop trying to reform the Federal Government. The States, which are Sovereign, are the only means in the Constitution to reign in an out of control Federal Government. We need to bring our fight HOME.
Who is the "lone gunman" that kicked off the BLM 'movement'? George Floyd was a criminal 'martyr' of opportunity. There was no lone gunman that kicked off or triggered the criminal BLM-Antifa movement. It was well organized agenda paired with commie soros money long before Floyd ever passed that phony bill in Minneapolis. And, it literally brought USA politicos and global industry to their knees.
That's the power of good planning! No lone gunman necessary.
I mean Michael Brown was the "first", and he was fighting over Officer (What'shisname), Gun after punching him in the face, after robbing a Gas Station.
Technically all states need the federal government now. They've needed it since we standardized fucking time zones and more-so when we standardized currency. Then the USA as a federal nation became a super-power. If the USA balkanizes even as a collection of states we're in for a big resource war between neighboring states and foreign powers.
This isn't the 1800s. A civil war now means foreign intervention within days maybe weeks. We're talking troops on the ground. Too many Americans have swallowed the Guns bad narrative or just have pea-shooters. It would be a massacre - Unlike the US's troops who would hesitate a bit before shooting fellow citizens, foreign powers wouldn't have that issue.
If we split into state factions we'd need to do it in unison. Realistically, the Midwest could easily cut off CA from the continental United states.
Yup, I hate to say it, but when your government is comprised, they will attack you, or you will attack them. Those will be the only 2 choices left. This really sucks our corrupt politicians did this to America. They are truly slime. Non human. I am still in shock that these traitors got away with it.
If you watch yuri Bezmenovs lectures, he mentioned all this things happening right now. This stage he call it the crisis stage, its the 2nd to last stage of commies invasion.
Crisis stage starts with forceful grab of power it comes in different ways(this time they steal the election) 2nd part of crisis stage is civil unrest and economic failures, 3rd is civil war or foreign invasion( this is why they are disarming you of your guns, and dividing the country by race)
I still say that there is a third way. It requires County Sheriff's from across the USA to issue arrest warrants for the traiterous criminal usurpers in DC and to go to DC with at least 750,000 WeThePeople to physically take them into custody. As long as there are physical arrest warrants the National Guard will not move against WeThePeople
The military MUST be on our side. There are foreign countries just waiting to pounce on the chaos and take over. The UN is just waiting for that chance. NWO, here we come.
The military must be on our side for what? To arrest the criminal traitors?
No, they do not need to be on our side for that. Our military (or any Western military for that matter) will NEVER, EVER, fire upon it's own people when The People have legal arrest warrants. The international optics would be DEVASTATING and IRREPARABLE for the occupying regime.
Yes, the military MUST be on our side. They may already be in control per the Constitution for all we know. There are indications that this is so beginning from last year around May through FEMA.
There is legal precedence for it and it may be the only way to clear out the traitors in the government. Legal arrest warrants mean nothing to the corrupt courts system.
Look to Myanmar. That may be a test run for what will happen here.
There are approx. 1M boots on the ground in the current US military and approx. 13-15M former military.
Add to that the most potent part of the plan: livestream the grand jury proceedings that all the world may see the evidence of criminal fraud and treason.
The reason for warrants being issued on the local level, by local Sheriffi's is to avoid federal courts and to seat the jury with locals from Trump country.
The democrat cities have done basically this with their power for too long. it's one-sided. It's time we return the favor. The United STATES of America shall invoke their state's rights and privileges.
I would love to see all of that happen. I am not counting on the corrupt legal system to do it though.
We will see how this all works out. I am trusting in the plan.
What plan are you trusting in? I know of no plan and have been waiting for Trump to announce his intended direction so that I don't waste my time and resources engaging to only have him track a different course.
Hopefully the waiting is nearly over as he will be attending CPAC and will hopefully outline his agenda.
the time for "negotiating compromise" is over indeed. The republic needs to be disassembled that it may be reassembled, with its inveterate traitors purged one and all. "If this be treason, make the most of it," as Patrick Henry once said
well, of COURSE SCOTUS is deep state, they are one of the pillars of it.
Thats not really relevant here though.
The bottom line is that everyone KNOWS there was election fraud. It was plotted, schemed, executed. It was obvious. It involved mail in ballots via rules and laws changed to ENABLE ballot box stuffing. Those are the facts.
But once that happened, the constitutional remedy was for the state legislatures to disallow it via certifying their own electors if some serious forensic auditing was not done (and it wasnt).
THEY DID NOT
Which comes back to elections. We needed, and did not have, a MAGA GOP majority in those legislatures, not a mere nominal GOP majority, because the GOPe sunk us.
Thats the bottom line. This was NEVER going to be decided by courts, because the ballot box stuffing fraud was meticulously planned and executed such that there was NO EVIDENCE, and without evidence, that takes a court win out of the picture. Thats our system. The fallback IS the state legislatures. Again, THIS IS OUR SYSTEM.
So lets all be realistic here. Is SCOTUS deep state? Of course. But thats not relevant. We need MAGA GOP majorities at grassroots levels in majorities (local/county/state) in all branches of county/state governments. IF WE HAVE THAT WE CAN BEAT THE DEEP STATE
Talking about revolutions, secessions, civil wars, that is all retarded. Just do the organizing, fundraising, and voting that will accomplish what we want.
Louisiana is getting ready to grab dominion machines, ala the 'kemp model' of gop self enrichment. we can no longer vote our way out of this, dude. what don't you understand regarding 'pivotal' and 'irreversible'. what do you think is going to happen with the millions of illegals flooding our republic now. why citizenship of course along with 90% of 'em voting dem. in that event, the dems won't even need to cheat anymore. they'll have the pure vote. that is why 2020 was truly an irreversible, seminal, and seismic event. it's over, dude regarding the constitutional route (of course the constitution has been on a slow death spiral for years). so quit being naïve. this indeed is a 'come to jesus' moment and perhaps divine intervention will be our way out if your concerned about the civil war path. you can't out organize, out fund raise or out vote the uniparty deep state so please stop with the political naivety.
I reject your black pill. Immigrants are not automatic Dem voters. Look at Latinos in FL. Overwhelming Trump.
You dont get to unilatrerally decide "civil war" is the answer just because you are too lazy to work within the political process. Its that process that GOT Trump and all other MAGA politicians elected.
If you want to have a shit fit because its not going to be easy, be my guest. But the smart way to is not some ridiculous "civil war" screeching. Thats going to get you exactly nowhere and is the same BS that distracted MAGA faithful like QAnon fantasies did.
If you want to overthrow the entire republic, no matter how, be my guest, maybe advocate it on a different sub, and enjoy your eventual jail cell.
Otherwise, if you want to see a MAGA GOP take over, then the way forward is grassroots UP action. Like I said, organize, fundraise, primary all the GOPe con artists at all levels in all branches, culminating in the Federal level, not starting with the President and hoping they will be as tough as Trump and even ATTEMPT a top-down takeover, which didnt succeed enough to beat the system only because he didnt have the base built up FIRST - that is the fact*.
Building that base first is OUR job, not his.
Do it, or keep on with violent fantasies, its up to you.
counterpoint 1) the overwhelming latino support for trump is in the form of the south florida cuban vote who have always been conservative. the bulk of the remainder (mainly puerto rican) have swayed democrat. this along with the multitudes getting ready to be settled here from mexico and central america.
counterpoint 2) 'you are too lazy to work within the political process'. uh . .dude the political process is broken. if uniparty voter fraud did not convince you of that, i'm really concerned about your political acumen and mental state. all 3 levels of government are now fully corrupt. it's 1984, dude.
counterpoint 3) 'Otherwise, if you want to see a MAGA GOP take over, then the way forward is grassroots UP action'. once more let me try to explain to you how entrenched and encompassing this deep state really is. it is broad spectrum from the municipalities on up to federal level. if SCOTUS rejecting texas due to standing and again today rejecting PA because it's moot, the court is now our enemy. they DIDN'T reject trump's being forced to hand over tax docs. his own GD picks screwed him. bottom line, quit the 'alice in wonderland' attempt at beating this back. you're looking at reality upside down, pal.
counterpoint 4) 'Building that base first is OUR job, not his'. uh . .dude, he did have and still has a tremendous base. he probably garnered over 80 million plus votes with all the vote switching going on. they cheated and in many different ways. i daresay the actual vote was probably in the 80 millions for him and probably in the 40's for biden. it was that blatant. so no, it was never a want for a base.
counterpoint 5) 'But the smart way to is not some ridiculous "civil war" screeching'. it's your call, ole buddy, ole pal. fight this crap kinetically or wind up in at best, at a re-education facility and at worse, a 'work camp'. get it through your skull, the marxist dems do not like us and if given the chance, would most definitely terminate us. they want no opposition
finally, trump was a good prez, not one great due to fact he was a businessman and naively thought he could work with his opponents. he found out that's not in the saul alinsky playbook. unfortunately too late. he should have been a bit more ruthless and warrior like and purged the intel agencies/military top brass. he had multitudes more loyal to pick from. he also held on to a pathetically weak inner circle of 'no men' who slow walked most of his directives. he tossed the conservative hawks like bannon and gorka and held on to the more liberal ones like his daughter and son in law. when the nation's on the line, which it was, we needed a churchill type warrior. even lincoln was ruthless as he purged judges and newspapers. lincoln fought for the republic at all costs, trump caved and had no plan B after the pence betrayal. he saw this fraud many months in advance and kind of did nothing to disrupt it. consequently, the republic/constitution has died.
it has always BEEN broken at every point in the nations history. Do some research. It will always BE broken, because the political process is a disgusting thing filled with scumbags and cockroaches.
HOWEVER, politics is the only alternative to physical violence, it is a substitute for a system of feudal violence which no one wants. You throw around these "civil war" proclamations but have no idea what it is like to actually live in a civil war.
consequently, the republic/constitution has died.
I agree with you on the extent of the deep state. No argument. I also agree with you on Trump not realizing the extent either. He was beset by enemies on all sides, and they essentially did a julius caesar on him politically. But you have to be realistic. All he COULD do was reveal to the public the extent of all this. And he did. Look how much we know that we didnt know 5 years ago.
The theory that he should have been a "warrior" and gone full dictator is wrong. He NEVER "had the military". He had the rank and file. The leadership are deep state, just as the rest of the leadership of the courts and even the rest of the leviathan executive branch is. They would have done what they already did when he tried to direct them - they would have acted seditiously and rebelled, and we possibly could have seen a physical coup not just a political one, so nothing would have been accomplished.
What he DID do of lasting benefit is to expose for us all the extent of the deep state and the true nature of media. Lets face it, the POTUS role is one of a ceremonial puppet. The main reason the deep state hated him so much was that he wasnt willing to go along with that.
So back to our options: You pointed out that MAGA has 80 millioin, maybe 100 million, voters. Can you tell me WHY we cant organize and elect MAGA representatives at every level? Why not? The elections in school boards, county boards, state legislatures, from the ground up all across the country arent ALL rigged. If they are, then we need to tackle THAT before anything else. But my point is that in 2018 and 2020, neither Trump nor the GOP faithful did jack shit to make sure and build the MAGA elected officials base from the grassroots up. That was what HAS to be done. If you dont want to, I get it, but THAT is the way to go - just talking shit about civil wars is just not productive. Like I said, its no better than hoping on QAnon.
Just imagine, IF WE HAD MAGA representatives, we would GET MAGA laws, we would GET MAGA appointees who would enforce those laws, we would (eventually) GET more Clarence Thomases at all levels of the judiciary. It could take a while, but that is the way the constitution proscribes. Im with you on being saddened and frustrated that we do NOT live in the constitutional republic set up by the founding fathers but a vile and disgusting mockery of it. I just dont want anyone wasting their time with wheel-spinning. You arent going to overthrow the republics, you arent going to secede, and you arent going to begin a civil war. Face reality. You are either going to participate with the group who will attempt what I said, which has a chance at least, or you can just sit out and eke out a miserable existence knowing what you SHOULD be doing, while other people do it for you.
fine rebuttal but with one caveat. i do think trump had adequate military support beneath the top layer of desk generals. i believe i heard somewhere he had close to 200 generals in his corner at one time. methodically replacing the obama appointees through the 4 years he had would have laid the ground work for the upper tier brass/joint chiefs. from my observations he had a good chunk of both the middle tier brass and rank and file. in fact, i believe the NG turned their backs to bidens motorcade as a sign of disrespect right after the 6th. i truly hope we can organize and turn things around but given the saturated levels of the uni-party, i'm not overly optimistic.
i do think trump had adequate military support beneath the top layer of desk generals
thats possible, but just a theory. Even if it was true, if he went full dictator he would be playing into the enemies hands, and they would have used the media, their mind control machine, to turn the half the country that still listens to them into full on "HES A DICTATOR!!!" mode, which they attempt to do anyway but anyone with an ounce of sense can see there is no meat on that bone. If you GAVE them real actual evidence of him acting unilaterally, he would be removed instantly - and we would have a for-real civil war.
None of that makes any sense, nothing would be accomplished, and none of that, most important of all, is Constitutional. REMEMBER, the US Constitution is the prime directive. If you say but hey, they dont follow it", yes, I realize that.
What I am saying is there IS a Constitutional way to win. And we are BOUND as patriots to do everything to follow that path. You cant in good conscience tell me we have TRIED to organize, fundraise, and use political action from the ground up as a MAGA force. We have NOT. Until we ACTUALLY attempt that and are somehow foiled by illegal means, then we HAVENT done OUR duty.
what you are advocating may yet come to pass, but I am saying that as patriots we owe it to everyone who fought and died for the Constitution to actually make a REAL attempt to reform the system within the system. That has not been done. YET.**
if the dictatorial/ military option did make itself available, invariably both the entire education system and media complex (msm and social) would have to be addressed and i'm sure it would be immediately. control of the media along with decades of marxist infiltration into our education system, unchecked, are the 2 main pillars of communist takeover. the dems (marxists) have use these institutions to maximum effect. you rob them of their voice (propaganda arm) and you're that much closer to victory. you're definitely optimistic in a legal, constitutional solution, and perhaps it may happen, however, the dark forces now have total control of all 3 branches along with the global money machines. i mean, scotus won't go near any voter fraud case. roberts, and the 3 freshmen are compromised on all forthcoming conservative decisions in our favor (yea, they'll throw us some crumbs occasionally to appear legit). the gop state legislatures are scared of their own shadows and the US house/senate are majority GOPe caring only about their own self enrichment. indeed a daunting task, my friend. lincoln was up to it (his GOP was just as corrupt), sadly, trump was not. we needed a churchillian figure at this pivotal time, not a businessman.
true, trump was elected via the same process. however, in 2016, dominion and other forms of cheating were still in use (at a lesser degree). trump caught the uni-party by surprise and crushed the algorithms calibrated to give an easy victory to clinton, he had landslide numbers back then as well but unfortunately for the dems/GOPe there was no ballot dump backup. this time they made sure of the steal with 'mail in ballots'. follow the dominoes. they needed massive amounts of mail in ballots. thus they had to create a reason for them and lo and behold COVID. they made sure to the point of it being a blatant, in your face, and cartoonish spectacle. you know, i know, scotus knows, GOP knows, most conservatives and probably a sizable chunk of dems know it was a steal. fucking surreal as to how they got away with it. i mean tom clancy couldn't write this he's pretty outlandish. so yea trump may have been shocked, but he saw the writing on the wall months/years in advance and even complained about it. there was virtually no prep done to pre-empt this crap that he clearly possessed the power to do. namely purging the intel agencies/ military top brass with those more loyal. and there were plenty to chose from. he had to take on a 'lincoln mindset' to save the republic for this was way more than just about him. as i said earlier, trump's achilles heel was in his staffing decisions. he surrounded himself (reported by a junior inner circle individual) by an inner circle of 'no men' who slow walked and even ignored his directives. mark meadows ring a bell? trump should have been a bit more aware of the deep state nature of these folks. plus he leaned heavily on the liberal tendencies of his daughter and son in law to compromise and try to get along. the dems DO NOT compromise.
on another tangent, desantis was elected in a voter ID, non dominion, non mail in ballot state. i wager most of the other names you listed were in the same category. plus some of the down vote was won by the GOP in blue areas was due to the urgent ballot dumping in the early am hours where there was only time allotted to check the box for biden. imagine that, our republic so banana like that millions of ballots only had a biden entry? plus many of these ballots were both copied and/or fed through machines multiple times. man, it so infuriating how the cheat was so amateurish and cartoonish and in your face.
yes, trump did have a duty to at least try the legal and constitutional routes. but any formidable politician needed a plan B after the 6th. trump had none and was thus helpless politically. you think the ruthlessness of a FDR or LBJ machine would have not had a backup? lincoln arrested judges and squashed the media to save the republic. 2020 was just as pivotal as 1863-64. the latter, the republic was saved. it was destroyed this go around. so we can continue to be 'glass half full' types but even as i type, the deep state (dark side) is continuing to get stronger. i personally don't see an out. if they can take the most popular president in history and turn his 20 million (at least) margin of victory into a defeat, they can do anything. i don't know what'll it take to get this silent majority fired up? perhaps there will be a little push back when they come for our guns, which they will. that could be the spark. can't round up and herd people to 're-education' camps if they're armed.
this time they made sure of the steal with 'mail in ballots'.
I think you are on target here.
there was virtually no prep done to pre-empt this crap that he clearly possessed the power to do.
But here is where we disagree. You claim he had the power to do this and that as a dictator. Im telling you he did NOT. he would have been FORCIBLY removed had he tried, with the uniparty lefty machine screeching "SEE! We TOLD YOU HE WAS A DICTATOR" and then we would have had a physical coup, because Im telling you that the deep state is not only political, its also in the judiciary, and the executive, which includes the military. He had the support of rank and file, yes, but NOT necessarily of the upper echelon of thousands of appointees. Just having his own appointee nominally head the agency isnt enough - look at the shitshow at the State department.
Again, you have to see the big picture. Trump could NOT have enforced a dictatorial takeover, which also BTW would not have been in any way constitutional.
trump's achilles heel was in his staffing decisions
agree with you on this. his staffing choices were not great.
desantis was elected in a voter ID, non dominion, non mail in ballot state.
not accurate. FL has extensive mail in ballots this past cycle. The reason the election there went smoothly is that after 30 years of corrupt shitshows run by Dems of course, DeSantis cleaned up a ton of things and also processed mail-ins early so they were DONE by election night. No chance for the ballot box stuffing fraud ENABLED in the other states.
any formidable politician needed a plan B after the 6th.
not really, there was no "plan B", and not really a constitutional possibility of one. There were constitutional avenues to beat the steal, the primary one being state legislatures putting up their own slates. They SHOULD have done that, and they made some noises. But this comes back to elections from the grassroots up. We NEEDED MAGA GOP majorities in these legislatures. We didnt have them, so they didnt do what they should have and could have. That should be a lesson for us. Top down takeover did NOT and WILL NOT work. Grassroots UP will work, and yea it will take planning and work.
My point all along was not to rely on TRUMP to do that for us. Its OUR job to build that MAGA base, not give up and say it cant be done and grab our guns instead. SHOULD Trump have had a "plan B"? No, he should have realized a top-down insurgency would fail just as it did. Essentially one man cant beat the machine. Thats the bottom line. Us voting is irrelevant. We vote for the one person, great. But the machine is stronger than that one office, in fact it is a puppet figurehead for the most part. No, that isnt how its supposed to be, but again its up to US to force the changes. But electorally, not physically.
lincoln arrested judges and squashed the media to save the republic
lincoln was asassinated and had Trump attempted what he did, he would have been removed, no question. We dont live in that time any more than we live in the time of the founding fathers. What Trump SHOULD have done was realize that a one man takeover of the entire machine was NOT going to be successful, and built the ground-up MAGA base FIRST. He was naive, and didnt see the reality but the fantasy. As we all did 5 years ago, because thats the fantasy the media projects, it has us all living in a matrix. He exposed all that and now our minds (if not our bodies) are free.
So Trump literally did everything he could, IMO - although I agree his staffing was mixed. Once he eventually realized the situation he truly faced, he did what he could, which was expose it. Thats my feeling. Now that we know, the job to actually FIX it is up to us, everyone knows (or should know) now that the extent of what we face is bigger than any single person, even for a Trump.
well said. very sobering situation currently. what 'needs' to be done, however, may not reconcile with what 'can' be done. what you've mentioned is great in theory, but in reality, we have precious little time to pull it off before the 'machine' is all encompassing. our freedoms are and will be eroding at an exponential rate. with voter fraud only worsening until the point of massive illegal alien induced voter majorities make it moot, it'll be herculean to prevent it. biden's flooding texas as i type. so electorally i don't see an out. you can plan on no GOP president, in your life time, ever being elected again due to 1) massive voter fraud 2) illegal aliens now flooding the country and becoming citizens, and now a new variable, apathy. 3) conservative constituents, like myself, who have seen themselves blatantly disenfranchised realize now the fraud more than cancels out their vote. millions now simply will not vote on a national level because they feel it doesn't matter. simple human nature of defeatism trumps your 'rise from the ashes' mantra. GOP voters are now ingrained in pessimism to the point it's been a double victory for the marxists. one caveat, the uni-party may from time to time calibrate their dominion machines to elect rinos who have kissed the deep state ring. just to make it appear to be a 2 party system for optics. you may even see a rino president in the form of a bush, mccain, or romney.
in regards to florida mail in ballots, yes they do have them but they're in the form of 'absentee' ballots that require the voter to actively solicit them via signatures and proper vetting. what the dems did was to saturate their states with unsolicited ballots, a completely different animal. this then allowed the massive dumping done on the morning of the 4th.
true, lincoln was assassinated, however any president at any given time is open to assassination. i would wager there have been quite a few attempts on trump during the past 4 years and probably will be into the future. the left/GOPe continue to fear him and they're capable of anything. scalia was obviously whacked along with seth rich and many others. it's the political nature of survival and trump should have padded his secret service to counteract. hell, they plotted with china to kill millions world wide and tank the global economy for the sake of political survival. these folks would make hitler and stalin proud. utterly ruthless.
we'll have to agree to disagree on trump's survivability if he'd had taken the gloves off. i still contend it wasn't in his DNA to counterpunch at that level and i continue to think much was unforced errors with his lack of 'cleaning house' once in office and ineptitude with personnel. his 'go along get along' nature was a godsend for his enemies and they took thorough advantage of it. EVERY president before and in the future has and will take these measures. trump was an outlier.
enjoy the dialogue, my friend, as i continue to stay as objective as my nature allows.
There is no fucking "deep state". Quit coming up with this comic book nerd, x files lingo for everything.
There is simply "the state". It is the public government sector against the private sector who is not already in bed with them.
That is it. It is simply the government. Every fucking agency and government employee is in on it. They are either active participants in the war against you or are give passive approval.
Saying these silly terms just gives the left ammo to paint anyone who disagrees with the government as fringe.
Not my logic, he was the first private citizen to hold that office in how long and look what lengths they are going through to make sure that never happens again.
He was absolutely being backstabbed and attacked by other lifelong government thugs at every step. Even the ones supposedly on our side.
My issue is with this ridiculous, redneck dem DEEP STATERS stupidity. It sounds low iq as fuck when the truth is much simpler and even more terrifying. There is not some silly, hollywood script where a select few are in on this nefarious plot. They are all in on it, and the plot is to keep and grow as much of their power as possible. It is simply the government. There is nothing Deep about it or secret cabal. They are all part of it. They are the biggest criminal organization on the planet.
…"system that wasn't broken"? The system has been broken for decades.
The state run governments are not any better. Just look to Commiefornia, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona for starters. They need their balls snipped as well. It is the corrupt Uniparty globalhomos that are the problem and they are everywhere.
no thoughts on obama and his shadow government pulling biden's strings?
no thoughts on the world banking system controlled by the bilderbergs and rothchilds. they're a level above the soros types. rule of thumb, if you not familiar with them in casual discussion, they're probably the true folks behind the curtain. who's payrolling antifa/blm. who payrolled the the voter fraud, who payrolled the development and delivery of covid. who payrolled all the political assassinations the last 40 years in this country. the clinton foundation could not have done it all. nor could soros' and zuckerberg's $$ paid for most of it. there are higher powers to be out there, my friend.
We're in a very bad position.
America is highly weakened right now. People are angry and are probably going to just revolt sure, but with America stretching itself thin, it falls apart as a global superpower and leaves vulnerable to foreign influences.
As we Balkanize, we're going to split into factions that are foreign backed and controlled. We'd become the middle east - a soup of proxy wars over our nuclear assets. The only way to avoid this is a quick revolt. One that takes out the key players and QUICKLY resets the government over to Trump while removing basically everyone else and trying again.
With a refortified constitution - question is, could we do that? probably not. Despite the problems, we're still too comfortable.
Stop trying to reform the Federal Government. The States, which are Sovereign, are the only means in the Constitution to reign in an out of control Federal Government. We need to bring our fight HOME.
YES
But no one wants to be the lone gunman...
There should NOT be any lone gunmen. Our strength is in our righteous collective as WeTheLawfulPeople.
We are Stronger Together.
A Revolt has NEVER Started in Modern History without a Lone Gunman of some kind.
BLM
What do you mean? BLM Shoots Cops ALL the Time, they're literally a Terrorist Organization.
Who is the "lone gunman" that kicked off the BLM 'movement'? George Floyd was a criminal 'martyr' of opportunity. There was no lone gunman that kicked off or triggered the criminal BLM-Antifa movement. It was well organized agenda paired with commie soros money long before Floyd ever passed that phony bill in Minneapolis. And, it literally brought USA politicos and global industry to their knees.
That's the power of good planning! No lone gunman necessary.
I mean Michael Brown was the "first", and he was fighting over Officer (What'shisname), Gun after punching him in the face, after robbing a Gas Station.
BLM has been happening since 2014,
That's silly. What state needs the federal government?
Wake up, they are 100% extra.
Technically all states need the federal government now. They've needed it since we standardized fucking time zones and more-so when we standardized currency. Then the USA as a federal nation became a super-power. If the USA balkanizes even as a collection of states we're in for a big resource war between neighboring states and foreign powers.
This isn't the 1800s. A civil war now means foreign intervention within days maybe weeks. We're talking troops on the ground. Too many Americans have swallowed the Guns bad narrative or just have pea-shooters. It would be a massacre - Unlike the US's troops who would hesitate a bit before shooting fellow citizens, foreign powers wouldn't have that issue.
If we split into state factions we'd need to do it in unison. Realistically, the Midwest could easily cut off CA from the continental United states.
Most federal bureaucracy has a redundant state funded counterpart. Even the military..
What foreign power do you honestly believe can mobilize an assualt on America?
Everything would be fine.
As a Libertarian, we actually said yes, we want military to save us from the Coup. Apes together Strong.
Does that mean I get free phones and welfare?
This needed to happen before that faggot potato got inaugurated. Now they are fenced in because they know we’d want to do that. It’s too late
No, its not too late.
The price just went up.
now - whatever happens - more people will die than would have died had we acted sooner.
Yup, I hate to say it, but when your government is comprised, they will attack you, or you will attack them. Those will be the only 2 choices left. This really sucks our corrupt politicians did this to America. They are truly slime. Non human. I am still in shock that these traitors got away with it.
It feels soo surreal some days. Sometimes I shake my head and say yes, this is real life.
It's a communist tactic
FROM YURI WITH LOVE.
If you watch yuri Bezmenovs lectures, he mentioned all this things happening right now. This stage he call it the crisis stage, its the 2nd to last stage of commies invasion.
Crisis stage starts with forceful grab of power it comes in different ways(this time they steal the election) 2nd part of crisis stage is civil unrest and economic failures, 3rd is civil war or foreign invasion( this is why they are disarming you of your guns, and dividing the country by race)
I still say that there is a third way. It requires County Sheriff's from across the USA to issue arrest warrants for the traiterous criminal usurpers in DC and to go to DC with at least 750,000 WeThePeople to physically take them into custody. As long as there are physical arrest warrants the National Guard will not move against WeThePeople
The military MUST be on our side. There are foreign countries just waiting to pounce on the chaos and take over. The UN is just waiting for that chance. NWO, here we come.
The military must be on our side for what? To arrest the criminal traitors?
No, they do not need to be on our side for that. Our military (or any Western military for that matter) will NEVER, EVER, fire upon it's own people when The People have legal arrest warrants. The international optics would be DEVASTATING and IRREPARABLE for the occupying regime.
Yes, the military MUST be on our side. They may already be in control per the Constitution for all we know. There are indications that this is so beginning from last year around May through FEMA.
There is legal precedence for it and it may be the only way to clear out the traitors in the government. Legal arrest warrants mean nothing to the corrupt courts system.
Look to Myanmar. That may be a test run for what will happen here.
There are approx. 1M boots on the ground in the current US military and approx. 13-15M former military.
Add to that the most potent part of the plan: livestream the grand jury proceedings that all the world may see the evidence of criminal fraud and treason.
The reason for warrants being issued on the local level, by local Sheriffi's is to avoid federal courts and to seat the jury with locals from Trump country.
I mean what the hell else can we do but this?
The democrat cities have done basically this with their power for too long. it's one-sided. It's time we return the favor. The United STATES of America shall invoke their state's rights and privileges.
I would love to see all of that happen. I am not counting on the corrupt legal system to do it though. We will see how this all works out. I am trusting in the plan.
What plan are you trusting in? I know of no plan and have been waiting for Trump to announce his intended direction so that I don't waste my time and resources engaging to only have him track a different course.
Hopefully the waiting is nearly over as he will be attending CPAC and will hopefully outline his agenda.
We will see. Hope for the best! I trust in God and those like Trump.
Not givi g up any of the 50 states....balkanization IS their goal. Commies can go live in china.
Not true. There is a third choice.
Toi continue doing nothing.
Secession won't work.
They'll just annex.
the time for "negotiating compromise" is over indeed. The republic needs to be disassembled that it may be reassembled, with its inveterate traitors purged one and all. "If this be treason, make the most of it," as Patrick Henry once said
1 demoralization 2 destabilization 3Crisis ----------------------- our current stage 4 normalization
Article V, Convention of States is the other, and more probably, and just way. It makes the most sense, and we are almost half way there.
True.
Bless Thomas, all the others make RBG look like an angel, SCUM...... <3 MAGA2021
Other than being lazy, timid, over liberal or corrupt did the majority give?
They won’t let you.
This sounds like chinese propaganda.
You sound like a psyop to pacify people. Fuck civility. Fuck with the bull get the horns
Let's pray for civil war.
well, of COURSE SCOTUS is deep state, they are one of the pillars of it.
Thats not really relevant here though.
The bottom line is that everyone KNOWS there was election fraud. It was plotted, schemed, executed. It was obvious. It involved mail in ballots via rules and laws changed to ENABLE ballot box stuffing. Those are the facts.
But once that happened, the constitutional remedy was for the state legislatures to disallow it via certifying their own electors if some serious forensic auditing was not done (and it wasnt).
THEY DID NOT
Which comes back to elections. We needed, and did not have, a MAGA GOP majority in those legislatures, not a mere nominal GOP majority, because the GOPe sunk us.
Thats the bottom line. This was NEVER going to be decided by courts, because the ballot box stuffing fraud was meticulously planned and executed such that there was NO EVIDENCE, and without evidence, that takes a court win out of the picture. Thats our system. The fallback IS the state legislatures. Again, THIS IS OUR SYSTEM.
So lets all be realistic here. Is SCOTUS deep state? Of course. But thats not relevant. We need MAGA GOP majorities at grassroots levels in majorities (local/county/state) in all branches of county/state governments. IF WE HAVE THAT WE CAN BEAT THE DEEP STATE
Talking about revolutions, secessions, civil wars, that is all retarded. Just do the organizing, fundraising, and voting that will accomplish what we want.
Louisiana is getting ready to grab dominion machines, ala the 'kemp model' of gop self enrichment. we can no longer vote our way out of this, dude. what don't you understand regarding 'pivotal' and 'irreversible'. what do you think is going to happen with the millions of illegals flooding our republic now. why citizenship of course along with 90% of 'em voting dem. in that event, the dems won't even need to cheat anymore. they'll have the pure vote. that is why 2020 was truly an irreversible, seminal, and seismic event. it's over, dude regarding the constitutional route (of course the constitution has been on a slow death spiral for years). so quit being naïve. this indeed is a 'come to jesus' moment and perhaps divine intervention will be our way out if your concerned about the civil war path. you can't out organize, out fund raise or out vote the uniparty deep state so please stop with the political naivety.
I reject your black pill. Immigrants are not automatic Dem voters. Look at Latinos in FL. Overwhelming Trump.
You dont get to unilatrerally decide "civil war" is the answer just because you are too lazy to work within the political process. Its that process that GOT Trump and all other MAGA politicians elected.
If you want to have a shit fit because its not going to be easy, be my guest. But the smart way to is not some ridiculous "civil war" screeching. Thats going to get you exactly nowhere and is the same BS that distracted MAGA faithful like QAnon fantasies did.
If you want to overthrow the entire republic, no matter how, be my guest, maybe advocate it on a different sub, and enjoy your eventual jail cell.
Otherwise, if you want to see a MAGA GOP take over, then the way forward is grassroots UP action. Like I said, organize, fundraise, primary all the GOPe con artists at all levels in all branches, culminating in the Federal level, not starting with the President and hoping they will be as tough as Trump and even ATTEMPT a top-down takeover, which didnt succeed enough to beat the system only because he didnt have the base built up FIRST - that is the fact*.
Building that base first is OUR job, not his.
Do it, or keep on with violent fantasies, its up to you.
counterpoint 1) the overwhelming latino support for trump is in the form of the south florida cuban vote who have always been conservative. the bulk of the remainder (mainly puerto rican) have swayed democrat. this along with the multitudes getting ready to be settled here from mexico and central america. counterpoint 2) 'you are too lazy to work within the political process'. uh . .dude the political process is broken. if uniparty voter fraud did not convince you of that, i'm really concerned about your political acumen and mental state. all 3 levels of government are now fully corrupt. it's 1984, dude. counterpoint 3) 'Otherwise, if you want to see a MAGA GOP take over, then the way forward is grassroots UP action'. once more let me try to explain to you how entrenched and encompassing this deep state really is. it is broad spectrum from the municipalities on up to federal level. if SCOTUS rejecting texas due to standing and again today rejecting PA because it's moot, the court is now our enemy. they DIDN'T reject trump's being forced to hand over tax docs. his own GD picks screwed him. bottom line, quit the 'alice in wonderland' attempt at beating this back. you're looking at reality upside down, pal. counterpoint 4) 'Building that base first is OUR job, not his'. uh . .dude, he did have and still has a tremendous base. he probably garnered over 80 million plus votes with all the vote switching going on. they cheated and in many different ways. i daresay the actual vote was probably in the 80 millions for him and probably in the 40's for biden. it was that blatant. so no, it was never a want for a base. counterpoint 5) 'But the smart way to is not some ridiculous "civil war" screeching'. it's your call, ole buddy, ole pal. fight this crap kinetically or wind up in at best, at a re-education facility and at worse, a 'work camp'. get it through your skull, the marxist dems do not like us and if given the chance, would most definitely terminate us. they want no opposition
finally, trump was a good prez, not one great due to fact he was a businessman and naively thought he could work with his opponents. he found out that's not in the saul alinsky playbook. unfortunately too late. he should have been a bit more ruthless and warrior like and purged the intel agencies/military top brass. he had multitudes more loyal to pick from. he also held on to a pathetically weak inner circle of 'no men' who slow walked most of his directives. he tossed the conservative hawks like bannon and gorka and held on to the more liberal ones like his daughter and son in law. when the nation's on the line, which it was, we needed a churchill type warrior. even lincoln was ruthless as he purged judges and newspapers. lincoln fought for the republic at all costs, trump caved and had no plan B after the pence betrayal. he saw this fraud many months in advance and kind of did nothing to disrupt it. consequently, the republic/constitution has died.
it has always BEEN broken at every point in the nations history. Do some research. It will always BE broken, because the political process is a disgusting thing filled with scumbags and cockroaches.
HOWEVER, politics is the only alternative to physical violence, it is a substitute for a system of feudal violence which no one wants. You throw around these "civil war" proclamations but have no idea what it is like to actually live in a civil war.
I agree with you on the extent of the deep state. No argument. I also agree with you on Trump not realizing the extent either. He was beset by enemies on all sides, and they essentially did a julius caesar on him politically. But you have to be realistic. All he COULD do was reveal to the public the extent of all this. And he did. Look how much we know that we didnt know 5 years ago.
The theory that he should have been a "warrior" and gone full dictator is wrong. He NEVER "had the military". He had the rank and file. The leadership are deep state, just as the rest of the leadership of the courts and even the rest of the leviathan executive branch is. They would have done what they already did when he tried to direct them - they would have acted seditiously and rebelled, and we possibly could have seen a physical coup not just a political one, so nothing would have been accomplished.
What he DID do of lasting benefit is to expose for us all the extent of the deep state and the true nature of media. Lets face it, the POTUS role is one of a ceremonial puppet. The main reason the deep state hated him so much was that he wasnt willing to go along with that.
So back to our options: You pointed out that MAGA has 80 millioin, maybe 100 million, voters. Can you tell me WHY we cant organize and elect MAGA representatives at every level? Why not? The elections in school boards, county boards, state legislatures, from the ground up all across the country arent ALL rigged. If they are, then we need to tackle THAT before anything else. But my point is that in 2018 and 2020, neither Trump nor the GOP faithful did jack shit to make sure and build the MAGA elected officials base from the grassroots up. That was what HAS to be done. If you dont want to, I get it, but THAT is the way to go - just talking shit about civil wars is just not productive. Like I said, its no better than hoping on QAnon.
Just imagine, IF WE HAD MAGA representatives, we would GET MAGA laws, we would GET MAGA appointees who would enforce those laws, we would (eventually) GET more Clarence Thomases at all levels of the judiciary. It could take a while, but that is the way the constitution proscribes. Im with you on being saddened and frustrated that we do NOT live in the constitutional republic set up by the founding fathers but a vile and disgusting mockery of it. I just dont want anyone wasting their time with wheel-spinning. You arent going to overthrow the republics, you arent going to secede, and you arent going to begin a civil war. Face reality. You are either going to participate with the group who will attempt what I said, which has a chance at least, or you can just sit out and eke out a miserable existence knowing what you SHOULD be doing, while other people do it for you.
fine rebuttal but with one caveat. i do think trump had adequate military support beneath the top layer of desk generals. i believe i heard somewhere he had close to 200 generals in his corner at one time. methodically replacing the obama appointees through the 4 years he had would have laid the ground work for the upper tier brass/joint chiefs. from my observations he had a good chunk of both the middle tier brass and rank and file. in fact, i believe the NG turned their backs to bidens motorcade as a sign of disrespect right after the 6th. i truly hope we can organize and turn things around but given the saturated levels of the uni-party, i'm not overly optimistic.
thats possible, but just a theory. Even if it was true, if he went full dictator he would be playing into the enemies hands, and they would have used the media, their mind control machine, to turn the half the country that still listens to them into full on "HES A DICTATOR!!!" mode, which they attempt to do anyway but anyone with an ounce of sense can see there is no meat on that bone. If you GAVE them real actual evidence of him acting unilaterally, he would be removed instantly - and we would have a for-real civil war.
None of that makes any sense, nothing would be accomplished, and none of that, most important of all, is Constitutional. REMEMBER, the US Constitution is the prime directive. If you say but hey, they dont follow it", yes, I realize that.
What I am saying is there IS a Constitutional way to win. And we are BOUND as patriots to do everything to follow that path. You cant in good conscience tell me we have TRIED to organize, fundraise, and use political action from the ground up as a MAGA force. We have NOT. Until we ACTUALLY attempt that and are somehow foiled by illegal means, then we HAVENT done OUR duty.
what you are advocating may yet come to pass, but I am saying that as patriots we owe it to everyone who fought and died for the Constitution to actually make a REAL attempt to reform the system within the system. That has not been done. YET.**
if the dictatorial/ military option did make itself available, invariably both the entire education system and media complex (msm and social) would have to be addressed and i'm sure it would be immediately. control of the media along with decades of marxist infiltration into our education system, unchecked, are the 2 main pillars of communist takeover. the dems (marxists) have use these institutions to maximum effect. you rob them of their voice (propaganda arm) and you're that much closer to victory. you're definitely optimistic in a legal, constitutional solution, and perhaps it may happen, however, the dark forces now have total control of all 3 branches along with the global money machines. i mean, scotus won't go near any voter fraud case. roberts, and the 3 freshmen are compromised on all forthcoming conservative decisions in our favor (yea, they'll throw us some crumbs occasionally to appear legit). the gop state legislatures are scared of their own shadows and the US house/senate are majority GOPe caring only about their own self enrichment. indeed a daunting task, my friend. lincoln was up to it (his GOP was just as corrupt), sadly, trump was not. we needed a churchillian figure at this pivotal time, not a businessman.
true, trump was elected via the same process. however, in 2016, dominion and other forms of cheating were still in use (at a lesser degree). trump caught the uni-party by surprise and crushed the algorithms calibrated to give an easy victory to clinton, he had landslide numbers back then as well but unfortunately for the dems/GOPe there was no ballot dump backup. this time they made sure of the steal with 'mail in ballots'. follow the dominoes. they needed massive amounts of mail in ballots. thus they had to create a reason for them and lo and behold COVID. they made sure to the point of it being a blatant, in your face, and cartoonish spectacle. you know, i know, scotus knows, GOP knows, most conservatives and probably a sizable chunk of dems know it was a steal. fucking surreal as to how they got away with it. i mean tom clancy couldn't write this he's pretty outlandish. so yea trump may have been shocked, but he saw the writing on the wall months/years in advance and even complained about it. there was virtually no prep done to pre-empt this crap that he clearly possessed the power to do. namely purging the intel agencies/ military top brass with those more loyal. and there were plenty to chose from. he had to take on a 'lincoln mindset' to save the republic for this was way more than just about him. as i said earlier, trump's achilles heel was in his staffing decisions. he surrounded himself (reported by a junior inner circle individual) by an inner circle of 'no men' who slow walked and even ignored his directives. mark meadows ring a bell? trump should have been a bit more aware of the deep state nature of these folks. plus he leaned heavily on the liberal tendencies of his daughter and son in law to compromise and try to get along. the dems DO NOT compromise.
on another tangent, desantis was elected in a voter ID, non dominion, non mail in ballot state. i wager most of the other names you listed were in the same category. plus some of the down vote was won by the GOP in blue areas was due to the urgent ballot dumping in the early am hours where there was only time allotted to check the box for biden. imagine that, our republic so banana like that millions of ballots only had a biden entry? plus many of these ballots were both copied and/or fed through machines multiple times. man, it so infuriating how the cheat was so amateurish and cartoonish and in your face.
yes, trump did have a duty to at least try the legal and constitutional routes. but any formidable politician needed a plan B after the 6th. trump had none and was thus helpless politically. you think the ruthlessness of a FDR or LBJ machine would have not had a backup? lincoln arrested judges and squashed the media to save the republic. 2020 was just as pivotal as 1863-64. the latter, the republic was saved. it was destroyed this go around. so we can continue to be 'glass half full' types but even as i type, the deep state (dark side) is continuing to get stronger. i personally don't see an out. if they can take the most popular president in history and turn his 20 million (at least) margin of victory into a defeat, they can do anything. i don't know what'll it take to get this silent majority fired up? perhaps there will be a little push back when they come for our guns, which they will. that could be the spark. can't round up and herd people to 're-education' camps if they're armed.
I think you are on target here.
But here is where we disagree. You claim he had the power to do this and that as a dictator. Im telling you he did NOT. he would have been FORCIBLY removed had he tried, with the uniparty lefty machine screeching "SEE! We TOLD YOU HE WAS A DICTATOR" and then we would have had a physical coup, because Im telling you that the deep state is not only political, its also in the judiciary, and the executive, which includes the military. He had the support of rank and file, yes, but NOT necessarily of the upper echelon of thousands of appointees. Just having his own appointee nominally head the agency isnt enough - look at the shitshow at the State department.
Again, you have to see the big picture. Trump could NOT have enforced a dictatorial takeover, which also BTW would not have been in any way constitutional.
agree with you on this. his staffing choices were not great.
not accurate. FL has extensive mail in ballots this past cycle. The reason the election there went smoothly is that after 30 years of corrupt shitshows run by Dems of course, DeSantis cleaned up a ton of things and also processed mail-ins early so they were DONE by election night. No chance for the ballot box stuffing fraud ENABLED in the other states.
not really, there was no "plan B", and not really a constitutional possibility of one. There were constitutional avenues to beat the steal, the primary one being state legislatures putting up their own slates. They SHOULD have done that, and they made some noises. But this comes back to elections from the grassroots up. We NEEDED MAGA GOP majorities in these legislatures. We didnt have them, so they didnt do what they should have and could have. That should be a lesson for us. Top down takeover did NOT and WILL NOT work. Grassroots UP will work, and yea it will take planning and work.
My point all along was not to rely on TRUMP to do that for us. Its OUR job to build that MAGA base, not give up and say it cant be done and grab our guns instead. SHOULD Trump have had a "plan B"? No, he should have realized a top-down insurgency would fail just as it did. Essentially one man cant beat the machine. Thats the bottom line. Us voting is irrelevant. We vote for the one person, great. But the machine is stronger than that one office, in fact it is a puppet figurehead for the most part. No, that isnt how its supposed to be, but again its up to US to force the changes. But electorally, not physically.
lincoln was asassinated and had Trump attempted what he did, he would have been removed, no question. We dont live in that time any more than we live in the time of the founding fathers. What Trump SHOULD have done was realize that a one man takeover of the entire machine was NOT going to be successful, and built the ground-up MAGA base FIRST. He was naive, and didnt see the reality but the fantasy. As we all did 5 years ago, because thats the fantasy the media projects, it has us all living in a matrix. He exposed all that and now our minds (if not our bodies) are free.
So Trump literally did everything he could, IMO - although I agree his staffing was mixed. Once he eventually realized the situation he truly faced, he did what he could, which was expose it. Thats my feeling. Now that we know, the job to actually FIX it is up to us, everyone knows (or should know) now that the extent of what we face is bigger than any single person, even for a Trump.
well said. very sobering situation currently. what 'needs' to be done, however, may not reconcile with what 'can' be done. what you've mentioned is great in theory, but in reality, we have precious little time to pull it off before the 'machine' is all encompassing. our freedoms are and will be eroding at an exponential rate. with voter fraud only worsening until the point of massive illegal alien induced voter majorities make it moot, it'll be herculean to prevent it. biden's flooding texas as i type. so electorally i don't see an out. you can plan on no GOP president, in your life time, ever being elected again due to 1) massive voter fraud 2) illegal aliens now flooding the country and becoming citizens, and now a new variable, apathy. 3) conservative constituents, like myself, who have seen themselves blatantly disenfranchised realize now the fraud more than cancels out their vote. millions now simply will not vote on a national level because they feel it doesn't matter. simple human nature of defeatism trumps your 'rise from the ashes' mantra. GOP voters are now ingrained in pessimism to the point it's been a double victory for the marxists. one caveat, the uni-party may from time to time calibrate their dominion machines to elect rinos who have kissed the deep state ring. just to make it appear to be a 2 party system for optics. you may even see a rino president in the form of a bush, mccain, or romney.
in regards to florida mail in ballots, yes they do have them but they're in the form of 'absentee' ballots that require the voter to actively solicit them via signatures and proper vetting. what the dems did was to saturate their states with unsolicited ballots, a completely different animal. this then allowed the massive dumping done on the morning of the 4th.
true, lincoln was assassinated, however any president at any given time is open to assassination. i would wager there have been quite a few attempts on trump during the past 4 years and probably will be into the future. the left/GOPe continue to fear him and they're capable of anything. scalia was obviously whacked along with seth rich and many others. it's the political nature of survival and trump should have padded his secret service to counteract. hell, they plotted with china to kill millions world wide and tank the global economy for the sake of political survival. these folks would make hitler and stalin proud. utterly ruthless.
we'll have to agree to disagree on trump's survivability if he'd had taken the gloves off. i still contend it wasn't in his DNA to counterpunch at that level and i continue to think much was unforced errors with his lack of 'cleaning house' once in office and ineptitude with personnel. his 'go along get along' nature was a godsend for his enemies and they took thorough advantage of it. EVERY president before and in the future has and will take these measures. trump was an outlier.
enjoy the dialogue, my friend, as i continue to stay as objective as my nature allows.
There is no fucking "deep state". Quit coming up with this comic book nerd, x files lingo for everything.
There is simply "the state". It is the public government sector against the private sector who is not already in bed with them.
That is it. It is simply the government. Every fucking agency and government employee is in on it. They are either active participants in the war against you or are give passive approval.
Saying these silly terms just gives the left ammo to paint anyone who disagrees with the government as fringe.
I mean, he's not wrong.
So according to your logic, President Trump was not being attacked and backstabbed at every turn, he was simply part of "the state".
Not my logic, he was the first private citizen to hold that office in how long and look what lengths they are going through to make sure that never happens again.
He was absolutely being backstabbed and attacked by other lifelong government thugs at every step. Even the ones supposedly on our side.
My issue is with this ridiculous, redneck dem DEEP STATERS stupidity. It sounds low iq as fuck when the truth is much simpler and even more terrifying. There is not some silly, hollywood script where a select few are in on this nefarious plot. They are all in on it, and the plot is to keep and grow as much of their power as possible. It is simply the government. There is nothing Deep about it or secret cabal. They are all part of it. They are the biggest criminal organization on the planet.
No, he is a businessman who thought he could fix a system that wasn't broken.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR BALLS SNIPPED BY THE STATES.
…"system that wasn't broken"? The system has been broken for decades.
The state run governments are not any better. Just look to Commiefornia, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona for starters. They need their balls snipped as well. It is the corrupt Uniparty globalhomos that are the problem and they are everywhere.
The Federal Government was never supposed to be the giant it is today.
It was a tiny little creature with a very small amount of power.
All the powers that it has now were added on, creating the designed system that you see today.
Nothing Broke.
It did break. As you said the Federal government was never supposed to be the giant it is today. SOMETHING broke to make that happen. Yes?
no thoughts on obama and his shadow government pulling biden's strings? no thoughts on the world banking system controlled by the bilderbergs and rothchilds. they're a level above the soros types. rule of thumb, if you not familiar with them in casual discussion, they're probably the true folks behind the curtain. who's payrolling antifa/blm. who payrolled the the voter fraud, who payrolled the development and delivery of covid. who payrolled all the political assassinations the last 40 years in this country. the clinton foundation could not have done it all. nor could soros' and zuckerberg's $$ paid for most of it. there are higher powers to be out there, my friend.
Agreed. The term only ever served to separate the government and ourselves from responsibility.
There is literally a deep state. And a shadow government. And they all love using ironic X files lingo and spy names for their stupid ploys.
And this is why our side keeps losing