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Floppykek 1 point ago +2 / -1

You honestly think that NO patriots feel violence will be necessary if lines are crossed?

We are just in communal discussions on how to agree when that line is actually crossed.

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sethrich 0 points ago +2 / -2

nope, because those people aren't patriots. i don't want to be called a domestic terrorist because some retards can't control their emotions. last i checked we still have our rights. we just need more people involved in politics who work for us. that's where the left beats us. they vote in every single election, even the local neighborhood ones. this site has really taken a turn for the worse. it's 50% conspiracy theories and 50% attacking others for having a different view point, or for advocating a different approach. man i wish we could have the old T_D back but without all the reddit drama.

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Floppykek 2 points ago +2 / -0

I struggle to understand his thinking, because we are told that our founding fathers of this great patriotic nation had to engage in violence to gain their independence.

I’m saying that seems like a pretty patriotic thing to do and we are almost at that point.

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sethrich 0 points ago +2 / -2

they had to engage in violence to gain independence because of the oppressive and tyrannical rule of Great Britain. in fact, originally, they just wanted to have a say in how they were governed. had british leadership simply allowed the colonies to have some representation in parliament, the world would look very differently now.

the current situation is a far cry from that, and you can't really compare the two. we are represented in politics and we still have rights, two major things that the colonists did not have. just because we aren't happy with the current leadership is no reason for violence. you will also find that there is very little support for violence anyway, outside of fringe groups and some of the louder minority here.

myself and most conservatives i know would never participate. i'm pretty happy with things as they are, for the most part my life is not affected at all by politics. my taxes might go up for a couple years, or they might go down, but really in the long run i can't point to any single president and say, yeah my life was worse off under this president as a direct result of his policies. and you will find that most people are like that. this site is an echo chamber of a loud minority. most people don't care, that is why we don't gain much traction with the big bombshells we see here, and why it seems so frustrating that nothing ever happens.