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Anaconda -3 points ago +6 / -9

Fuck the CSA. Worthless sacks of shit

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sethrich -5 points ago +2 / -7

indeed. they were a bunch of racist traitors who tried to breakaway and failed miserably. and yet for some reason to this day people still worship the flag of failed uprising like its the shroud of turin itself. they were basically american nazis and i laugh everytime someone tries to act like they were anything but.

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Bonami 1 point ago +1 / -0

I disagree. This may give you more of an understanding of why they acted as they did. Slave ownership had already been resolved between the states with the Dredd-Scott decision.

Slavery had NOTHING to do with the south seceding. https://www.charlestonathenaeumpress.com/the-morrill-tariff-caused-the-perfect-storm-for-economic-disaster-in-the-north/

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sethrich -2 points ago +1 / -3

dude are you seriously going to argue that it wasn't a politically motivated decision based on feelings and not at all in the legalities? the whole case started because of a law congress passed (missouri compromise) that allowed for slavery in certain parts of the country and then the chief justice deciding that because black people came to the country as slaves, they had no rights at all so the law was moot. the matter was far from settled, and in fact, upon lincoln's victory in 1860, 7 states already declared they are seceding. as far as the tariff, it was put in place because our nation was broke, and we wanted to encourage domestic production and manufacturing (hmmm sounds like something we advocate for). america at the time had the lowest import tariffs in the world, encouraging everyone to just dump their shit on us, stifling our economy. the war started a month after his inauguration in april, when southern forces attacked fort sumter, a FEDERAL fort. how you're going to sit there and argue that those actions are not traitorous is beyond me. not to mention that the confederacy was never recognized as a legitimate country by any nation in existence at the time, further solidifying the fact that it was simply a bunch of racist traitors who rebelled because they didn't like the fact that society was progressing past their worldview.

identifying with the confederacy does our movement waaaay more harm than good. in fact, outside of our political bubble and internet echo chambers, there are places where people on both sides of the aisle can agree on things, but even in those places its universally held that the confederacy was a mistake and dark stain on our great nation's history.