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posted ago by Jojobelle ago by Jojobelle +14 / -0

In order to believe that Trump won the election you have to believe; The electoral system in the USA is broken to the degree that fraud is widespread and pervasive and of sufficient magnitude to move an election. You have to believe that people as close to Trump as Mike Pence has become part of a conspiratorial network or have been shut down by people who are able to put sufficient pressure on him. You have to believe that the judiciary in the USA which have ruled 60 times against his claims and 1 time in his favour. You have to believe that it has become uncontrollably corrupt even on the republican side even when those republicans were nominated by trump or by his people And you have to believe that the only person standing on moral high ground through all of this has been Trump.

Its about 11 mins in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBcKlBaaoc&t=1924s

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Vindalou 6 points ago +6 / -0

You don't need razor wire and armed troops for a legitimate government.

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Roadpower 3 points ago +3 / -0

Apparently Peterson is not aware that almost zero of the courts heard any arguments and nor is he aware of the now documented and cited rigging done by the Democratic Party and their friends. And as for Pence and people like him, none of them look at any sources of information outside of their Beltway bubble / echo-chamber, so of course they fell on the wrong side.

I think if Peterson spent the time looking he would change his mind but this is a real shame for now.

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X3r0 3 points ago +3 / -0

JP is a smart man - however, he loses the plot in this video. He's trying to compare the political structure that he knows at U of T (if he's still there) with the political structure in Washington, DC.

This is like comparing Tee-ball with professional American Baseball - you're not anywhere close to the same level in terms of emotional intensity, depth, business/political interests.

JP is an academic - and a smart one. But he truly believes that his great intellect has bestowed upon him the ability to correctly hypothesize about the definitive nature of the world. He's not a politician, so he'll never understand how the landscape actually functions in real-time.

This is a common misconception among professors and academics; they try to use virtually 100% intellectual/academic understanding to describe highly emotionally charged environments like Washington, even though they have zero experience in their professional dealings.

This is the real cognitive distortion.

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PerchingEagle 2 points ago +2 / -0

To gain "success" in a professional sense (excluding all self-employed business owners) requires willful submission to the Cult of Performative Anxiety, since you are not independently wealthy by definition if you voluntarily work a salaried job. Your paymasters expect at least a nod toward the cult, since they built it. To navigate successfully, one must understand the Overton window of allowable discource within their own professional domain and adhere to it. Creatives may bend the window & either open it or close it slightly. Peterson did more than just open the window. He tore down the wall with the window. Now he's apologizing for that. He still thinks in left & right instead of power/weak & haves/have nots. He hasn't shed the performative anxiety he developed as a career man. He isn't a philosopher or a prophet because he never allowed himself the ego to go for either. He also screwed up buying into the Nu Hollywood of the IDW, instead of seeing through it as the GOPe version of Hollywood.

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macrolinx 2 points ago +2 / -0

I highly respect JBP for his philosophy, thoughts and actions towards protecting individual liberties. Especially when it comes to freedom of thought and speech. The man has a tremendous vocabulary and uses it wisely.

But he is not a leader in the MAGA movement. He is not a part of the American political process.

I can easily separate those two things. Him being wrong about our election does not make him wrong about everything else.

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PerchingEagle 2 points ago +2 / -0

The man has done & said too much to ever lose my respect....but perhaps Peterson's 2 year exile in drug rehab was spent with some figurative O'Brien in Room 101. Thanks for the memories JBP.

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TAIWANNUMBERONE 1 point ago +1 / -0

What did you expect from a guy who touts himself as an "individualist" but would be living in a homeless shelter if it wasn't for the professional education industry, medical institutions and speech venues? He's a complete quack.

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MadTrad 2 points ago +2 / -0

JBP is the greatest philosopher of our time. When it comes to American politics he rarely speaks authoritatively, and I don't think he was doing so here. I disagree with his take, but its a question outside his expertise in my opinion

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Salt-N-Pepe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Verbal reports are ignored, time for another kind. This opening posits facts in the realm of fantasy or conspiracy and its false

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1776grandma 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is a fantastic summary of what happened.