Yall should come to Portland and see what real liberalism looks like. Trash dumps all over the place, tents and RVs lining the streets just trashing everything, even along side the Columbia River. Literal zombies walking down the streets digging in trash cans. Taxes for bags, taxes for water bottles, I have to ask for a straw. I've never seen anything like the backwards Fd up world here. Meanwhile they beg for more refugees and put them up in housing. It's absolutely Bullshit.