Musk's is Niven & Pournelle's Fallen Angels. Frens escape Earth as it's taken over by communist green fanatics enforcing ignorance, and the Frens make a new life in space.
Bezos' is Elysium. Billionaires live on a fancy ringworld away from and untouchable by their toiling peasants.
I think Space will be more of a fight for “scraps” for essential survival supplies than the Earth.
But then I am a doomer pessimist or whatever and not high energy, so what do I know, as if I have some “insight”....when in the face of higher intellects like Musk and Bezos, who am I to make an observation? Hell, I am like the people mocking the Wright brothers....I mean it is EXACTLY LIKE THAT....amirite? Exactly like that!!
Space holds countless, like nearly limitless amounts of resources for many, many human generations in our solar system alone. Asteroids literally made of precious metals to be captured and mined.
A.I. and self replicating robots in space is entirely possible. We can build space stations and space vehicles in space using asteroid metals. Terraform Mars.
Honestly star trek universe is the best thing we can hope for humanity.
God NO! I want nothing to do with star trek, it is bull$h*t space communist propaganda. It is why I will take the more believable space wizards of Star wars anyday. After all which is more believable? Space wizards and their magic or communism actually working of the betterment of mankind and not as intended?
It will be Starcraft 2 terran SCV drops. They will build everything we need to land, party, fuck space hookers and play blackjack the first night we land anywhere.
Doubt it. Space life sucks. They wouldn't even have a fraction of the comforts they have on this planet.
More than likely, they are kvetching over the thought of disaffected people leaving the planet to find their own way in space, thus leaving them with fewer serfs to exploit.
Yeah, there primary fight is that they have competing satellite/internet services. Musk is farther along in development, but Bezos' plan is to put satellites into a lower Orbit. Musk wanted to lower his satellites Orbit and Bezos is fighting him over it.
If either project is successful, it will make the owner the wealthiest person in the world. they would be able to provide high speed internet access to every single person in the world, making the whole world their customer
If you were Bezos, why the hell would you still want to be CEO? He has a lot of other "pet projects" that keep him busy, he has more money than his great great grandchildren will ever need and being CEO is a pain in the ass
His net worth is closely linked to the price of $AMZN shares. It's in his best interest to select a trustworthy figure to be CEO when the company is poised to take share in numerous segments of the economy as he takes a step back and focus on longer-term issues.
I don't trust the guy at all, but he's about as shrewd as it gets.
And there's no way he's been arrested. Some people here... "The rules don't apply to the rich and powerful...who are getting arrested all the time!"
He can sit at home, let others do the work and still collect Billions. His fortune is from ownership, not from being CEO. A CEO needs to work, that is the definition of the word
Ackshully, Snopes says CEO stands for Chief Executive Officer but forgive them for using a word that might be misconstrued as disrespectful of the indigenous.
You’re right that being CEO normally entails a big commitment of time and the mental load of decision making and accountability for things in and out of your control.
Thanks for pointing that out, but I suppose someone who makes electric cars has to be on the side of driving the narrative that there's a need for electric cars.
I think these rich types are starting to wake up to the fact we are 75 million strong and no leadership. A couple good people out there giving suggestions on what to do but no one leading. So maybe Elon will start giving a voice to the voiceless.
Currently crypto is the only thing leading the charge in this fight.
They control us with the USD and the stock market.
They can't do anything about crypto.
Now we just need a leader to step up and draw a line in the sand against big gov, to finish the job.
Crypto's promise is in decantralization. A leader can never take the reigns of the people's freely chosen medium of exchange. Ethereum is correct at least in ideology. We should all be free to make choices as we see fit. Crypto will let us build infrastructure for tech in ways that are unfettered by collusive cartels, ran by billionaires.
When you wear prescription eyeglasses you allow your eye to focus properly and see better with less strain. Are you less human due to your incorporation of an artificial augmentation?
No, I don’t see it quite this way, but Elon isn’t some demonic cyborg godfather for seeing room for improvements. I have a relative with an implanted pacemaker keeping his heart within range. In my future there could be the need for something akin to a brain wave attenuators. I would much rather rely on something from Neuralink than Pfizer. “Here take this handful of different compounds throughout the day and let us know how it goes.”
Well he can sometimes sound like a sci fi prophet, but of course many great tech developments were predicted and inspired by sci fi.
If you use the internet often you have already modified your brain to adapt to tech. You have retired pathways now. You are programmed to seek new info and social cues. This stuff is engineered by teams of people seeking to boost engagement and shape beliefs. Your memory has probably already been degraded because through no fault of your own you have come to rely on the net to remember, software to calculate and organize.
What Elon and others see is that in many ways we have already made tools that beat us in lots of tasks- not just robot welding or online Chess or IBM winning Jeopardy, but medical diagnosis, image scans and even language facility compared to most people. So, since it doesn’t look likely we’ll all go Luddite, people may want to augment to better function and retain freedom. I haven’t decided where I draw the line on making use of such tech, but I know it’s a real question and way more serious than simply scoffing.
Yeah, sadly it seems from Elon's perspective, this is all only a temporary crazy place he has to deal with. He already said he wants to die on mars. Or in other words, his resources aren't for this earth, he's saving them for his trip to mars. He's all in on that dream. The problem is, in order to have a sustained colony on mars, you need to have shit on earth to not be soo volatile, otherwise the whole colony dream collapses if America turns full third world or becomes soo weakened that its enemies decide it wants a WWIII. Then all Elon will be able to do is watch the colony he built die....then he'll be remembered as a man who died on mars with his dream, rather than the man who died living his dream.
A colony on mars will never be entirely self sustainable, at least not for centuries. So they will always rely on some resource from earth, even if it's just replacement computer chips or upgrades and new hardware. As they expand, they'll also want more things, like more types of seeds, other equipment, etc. And that's not even counting the amount of people they would need for a true colony, which would take tens of thousands of people to have a successful breeding population that doesn't end up inbred. And that's even if people can be born on mars due to the low gravity or some other issue. If that's a limiting factor, then a mars base will never be anything but a glorified space hotel / research outpost.
Even if an asteroid hits earth and wiped out mostly everything, it would still make more sense to wait in orbit and re-colonize earth than to colonize mars. You'd be able to put way more people in orbit than on mars. Even if there was a mars colony and the earth was hit by an asteroid, going back to earth after X number of years or centuries would still be better in the long run than trying to establish a permanent new home on mars. That's what these mars colonization dreams fail to realize....earth will always be the best candidate.
Just imagine you're on mars and earth is hit and X amount of time passes and the dust starts to settle. Even if the atmosphere is toxic, as long as the oceans haven't boiled away, that one sole reason alone would be enough to go back to re-colonize earth. Not to mention the gravity. Live in habitats on a desert wasteland with low gravity....or live in habitats on a toxic atmosphere earth with readily available water and other resources (that may eventually recover on its own) that is the right distance from the sun for liquid water with a thick enough atmosphere that you would only need breathers and not pressure suits. It's a no brainer!
Except she's in his house while he sleeps. It's not a good idea to let some crazy bitch in there with you kitchen knives and shotguns and shit. He probably doesn't have his bodyguards in his bedroom. Don't invite crazy into your house.
She wants to Defund/Abolish the police, she's a Bernie supporter, she thinks there's more than 2 genders, etc. I have no idea what Elon sees in that nutcase, hopefully he dumps her someday[soon] and gets with a nice conservative gal.
I'm pretty sure I read some article once about when Elon dated Amber Heard he first stated to her once that "I am the alpha in the relationship" or something like that.
I'm pretty sure Elon doesn't mind leftist women if they submit to him, like all men should expect. Most leftist crazy women will submit to dominant men and once she does her politics don't matter to the guy at that point because he leads and she follows, politics be damned. Elon strikes me as the kind of guy who operates like this.
No. Full stop no. Don't put your dick in crazy and don't date for sport. Find a woman that will mother your children and keep your house a home. I know it's an enticing fantasy to break a wild mare and make her your trophy but you're giving yourself a fuckton of work for less payoff than just dating a sane woman to begin with. The right has the most beautiful and intelligent women which will actually be a worthwhile second-in-command when you start a family, not a project without guarantee of success for weak ass bragging rights. Leftist cunts are fit only to rot alone.
Oh, I agree with you generally speaking. Mostly because leftist women rarely submit to men and rarely to you if they're going to submit to anyone. One of the richest men in the world like Elon might actually be able to pull it off because of his wealth/power/influence etc... Whatever she lacks in morality to teach his kids, he can make up for it with tutors and all the other help she'll get due to his money.
For your average guy who just wants to find a woman to love him, support him and have his kids, leftist women are going to be a pretty bad choice.
Whatever she lacks in morality to teach his kids, he can make up for it with tutors and all the other help she'll get due to his money.
You cannot replace a mother in that sense. And that also overlooks the genetic component where kids will inherit much of their intelligence from the mother. Healthy family structure makes no distinction between rich and poor and rich men are just as easily susceptible to the bad spirits surrounding a deranged liberal woman as poor men are. Stay away from women like that regardless of your background.
"Democracy dies in darkness" and Joe Biden said it'd be a DARK winter so I guess the Washington Post admits that Joe Biden and his handlers are killing the republic.
I keep wondering if they just forgot to remove the Democracy Dies In Darkness the minute Biden was inaugurated, or if they retain it because it is actually their battle cry.
Wants to run as president in 2024. Pathetic because by that time there will be no country left. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. A globalist through and through.
Yeah... but that's why the whole birther thing was fucking stupid. You just need ONE American parent to be natural-born citizen. It doesn't matter WHERE you are born.
Neither of Elon's parents are Americans either, so he's not eligible.
He wants to run as president? Never heard of that. Globalist? If you mean doing business worldwide, yes, but thats totally legit. The bad type globalists seek for powerful global institutions. Thats different.
It's an oblique dig at Bezos too. Interesting.
They are fighting for control over man's path to space.
spoiler alert the elites will jet off into space while we toil for scraps
It's more two competing visions for space.
Musk's is Niven & Pournelle's Fallen Angels. Frens escape Earth as it's taken over by communist green fanatics enforcing ignorance, and the Frens make a new life in space.
Bezos' is Elysium. Billionaires live on a fancy ringworld away from and untouchable by their toiling peasants.
I think Space will be more of a fight for “scraps” for essential survival supplies than the Earth.
But then I am a doomer pessimist or whatever and not high energy, so what do I know, as if I have some “insight”....when in the face of higher intellects like Musk and Bezos, who am I to make an observation? Hell, I am like the people mocking the Wright brothers....I mean it is EXACTLY LIKE THAT....amirite? Exactly like that!!
Space holds countless, like nearly limitless amounts of resources for many, many human generations in our solar system alone. Asteroids literally made of precious metals to be captured and mined.
A.I. and self replicating robots in space is entirely possible. We can build space stations and space vehicles in space using asteroid metals. Terraform Mars.
Honestly star trek universe is the best thing we can hope for humanity.
God NO! I want nothing to do with star trek, it is bull$h*t space communist propaganda. It is why I will take the more believable space wizards of Star wars anyday. After all which is more believable? Space wizards and their magic or communism actually working of the betterment of mankind and not as intended?
It will be Starcraft 2 terran SCV drops. They will build everything we need to land, party, fuck space hookers and play blackjack the first night we land anywhere.
Amen brother!
Neh.
this isn't futurology
Doubt it. Space life sucks. They wouldn't even have a fraction of the comforts they have on this planet.
More than likely, they are kvetching over the thought of disaffected people leaving the planet to find their own way in space, thus leaving them with fewer serfs to exploit.
Theres nothing they can do about that. Space is the final frontier. Or the beginning of countless new ones from another perspective.
i believe it will some space bases and isolated regions that they lord over. think canadian forest australian dessert anartica etc
That's my point. Whoever controls near Earth space controls it all.
Step 1 - crowdfund satellites for phone/internet
Step 0.5- ohfuk did we accidentally on purpose leave a bigass backdoor in the code?
Step 2- uncensorable internet and phone service for errbody.
aka elon musks satellite network
One thing ive learned is never trust the billionaire tech giant.
Elon is cool so far, I like most things about him.
But we've been burnt one too many times, we need to have our own shit. We can't count on anyone but ourselves at the end of the day
Yeah, there primary fight is that they have competing satellite/internet services. Musk is farther along in development, but Bezos' plan is to put satellites into a lower Orbit. Musk wanted to lower his satellites Orbit and Bezos is fighting him over it.
If either project is successful, it will make the owner the wealthiest person in the world. they would be able to provide high speed internet access to every single person in the world, making the whole world their customer
They r fighting over Starlink and whatever Bezos crap is.
"is it uncomfortable with bezos shoulder deep in your ass?"
Musk should launch an Amazon-killer e-commerce platform. It's ripe for the picking and he's got the smarts AND money to make it happen.
He was one of the founders of PayPal. PayPal was bought out by ebay, but Musk had left the company by then.
Elon knows our politicians & media all sold out to China
It actually does happen, all the time.
trust the plan !! 🤢
Retire the champ lol
If you were Bezos, why the hell would you still want to be CEO? He has a lot of other "pet projects" that keep him busy, he has more money than his great great grandchildren will ever need and being CEO is a pain in the ass
His net worth is closely linked to the price of $AMZN shares. It's in his best interest to select a trustworthy figure to be CEO when the company is poised to take share in numerous segments of the economy as he takes a step back and focus on longer-term issues.
I don't trust the guy at all, but he's about as shrewd as it gets.
And there's no way he's been arrested. Some people here... "The rules don't apply to the rich and powerful...who are getting arrested all the time!"
Less Q, more straightforward logic.
I don't like Bezos but one good thing I can say about him is he isn't part of the population control cult:
https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/jeff-bezos-foresees-trillion-people-living-millions-space-colonies-here-ncna1006036
He can sit at home, let others do the work and still collect Billions. His fortune is from ownership, not from being CEO. A CEO needs to work, that is the definition of the word
Ackshully, Snopes says CEO stands for Chief Executive Officer but forgive them for using a word that might be misconstrued as disrespectful of the indigenous.
You’re right that being CEO normally entails a big commitment of time and the mental load of decision making and accountability for things in and out of your control.
This guy is fast becoming a National treasure
African-American of the year.
Imagine what he could do with white privilege.
I get why you say that, but we've been burned before.
Yeah man we stay getting burned
He did say on Rogan’s podcast last week that he supports a carbon tax.
Yuck!
Thanks for pointing that out, but I suppose someone who makes electric cars has to be on the side of driving the narrative that there's a need for electric cars.
I think these rich types are starting to wake up to the fact we are 75 million strong and no leadership. A couple good people out there giving suggestions on what to do but no one leading. So maybe Elon will start giving a voice to the voiceless.
Currently crypto is the only thing leading the charge in this fight.
They control us with the USD and the stock market.
They can't do anything about crypto.
Now we just need a leader to step up and draw a line in the sand against big gov, to finish the job.
Some crypto is already compromised.
Crypto's promise is in decantralization. A leader can never take the reigns of the people's freely chosen medium of exchange. Ethereum is correct at least in ideology. We should all be free to make choices as we see fit. Crypto will let us build infrastructure for tech in ways that are unfettered by collusive cartels, ran by billionaires.
Did not respond? Replied? Difference?
What was the question he didn't respond to about?
Fake News can't even make a complete headline without a fib.
Don't even know - but the reply was good.
Who is John Galt? Elon is John Galt.
You know what we need more of in this country? Railroads.
and air roads
Any time I refer to the Washington Post, I always call it Bezo's blog.
Eh he’s really not though it’s all an act to sell EVs to based people.
I think he just only sees hope in leaving this gay planet
He is all in for transhumanism, AI-Human hybrids. Hard pass
He just consoomed too much cyberpunk media
When you wear prescription eyeglasses you allow your eye to focus properly and see better with less strain. Are you less human due to your incorporation of an artificial augmentation?
No, I don’t see it quite this way, but Elon isn’t some demonic cyborg godfather for seeing room for improvements. I have a relative with an implanted pacemaker keeping his heart within range. In my future there could be the need for something akin to a brain wave attenuators. I would much rather rely on something from Neuralink than Pfizer. “Here take this handful of different compounds throughout the day and let us know how it goes.”
What are you yammering about? What EM has is mind is FAR beyond prescription eyeglasses, ffs
Well he can sometimes sound like a sci fi prophet, but of course many great tech developments were predicted and inspired by sci fi.
If you use the internet often you have already modified your brain to adapt to tech. You have retired pathways now. You are programmed to seek new info and social cues. This stuff is engineered by teams of people seeking to boost engagement and shape beliefs. Your memory has probably already been degraded because through no fault of your own you have come to rely on the net to remember, software to calculate and organize.
What Elon and others see is that in many ways we have already made tools that beat us in lots of tasks- not just robot welding or online Chess or IBM winning Jeopardy, but medical diagnosis, image scans and even language facility compared to most people. So, since it doesn’t look likely we’ll all go Luddite, people may want to augment to better function and retain freedom. I haven’t decided where I draw the line on making use of such tech, but I know it’s a real question and way more serious than simply scoffing.
Yeah, sadly it seems from Elon's perspective, this is all only a temporary crazy place he has to deal with. He already said he wants to die on mars. Or in other words, his resources aren't for this earth, he's saving them for his trip to mars. He's all in on that dream. The problem is, in order to have a sustained colony on mars, you need to have shit on earth to not be soo volatile, otherwise the whole colony dream collapses if America turns full third world or becomes soo weakened that its enemies decide it wants a WWIII. Then all Elon will be able to do is watch the colony he built die....then he'll be remembered as a man who died on mars with his dream, rather than the man who died living his dream.
Yeah true. Though it depends on supply chains and how sustainable Mars can be.
A colony on mars will never be entirely self sustainable, at least not for centuries. So they will always rely on some resource from earth, even if it's just replacement computer chips or upgrades and new hardware. As they expand, they'll also want more things, like more types of seeds, other equipment, etc. And that's not even counting the amount of people they would need for a true colony, which would take tens of thousands of people to have a successful breeding population that doesn't end up inbred. And that's even if people can be born on mars due to the low gravity or some other issue. If that's a limiting factor, then a mars base will never be anything but a glorified space hotel / research outpost.
Yeah really even Antarctica is more hospitable.
Here's hoping Mars is a start to spreading out from this rock.
Even if an asteroid hits earth and wiped out mostly everything, it would still make more sense to wait in orbit and re-colonize earth than to colonize mars. You'd be able to put way more people in orbit than on mars. Even if there was a mars colony and the earth was hit by an asteroid, going back to earth after X number of years or centuries would still be better in the long run than trying to establish a permanent new home on mars. That's what these mars colonization dreams fail to realize....earth will always be the best candidate.
Just imagine you're on mars and earth is hit and X amount of time passes and the dust starts to settle. Even if the atmosphere is toxic, as long as the oceans haven't boiled away, that one sole reason alone would be enough to go back to re-colonize earth. Not to mention the gravity. Live in habitats on a desert wasteland with low gravity....or live in habitats on a toxic atmosphere earth with readily available water and other resources (that may eventually recover on its own) that is the right distance from the sun for liquid water with a thick enough atmosphere that you would only need breathers and not pressure suits. It's a no brainer!
Terraforming if possible. Otherwise only reason to go is for resources or personal freedoms.
One man can only do so much. Also, there is no use in buying CNN and FOX. They create new channels and continue.
Then have the dems pass a law saying they can straight out confiscate all the assets and businesses of anyone suspected of wrongthink.
CNN is a failing network, Fox as well. Why buy something already in decay?
Except she's in his house while he sleeps. It's not a good idea to let some crazy bitch in there with you kitchen knives and shotguns and shit. He probably doesn't have his bodyguards in his bedroom. Don't invite crazy into your house.
I can personally vouch for the accuracy of this advice.
Who is she, and why do you say that?
Her name is Grimes. She makes shitty music, and is an sjw weirdo.
https://www.picuki.com/profile/grimes
She wants to Defund/Abolish the police, she's a Bernie supporter, she thinks there's more than 2 genders, etc. I have no idea what Elon sees in that nutcase, hopefully he dumps her someday[soon] and gets with a nice conservative gal.
I'm pretty sure I read some article once about when Elon dated Amber Heard he first stated to her once that "I am the alpha in the relationship" or something like that.
I'm pretty sure Elon doesn't mind leftist women if they submit to him, like all men should expect. Most leftist crazy women will submit to dominant men and once she does her politics don't matter to the guy at that point because he leads and she follows, politics be damned. Elon strikes me as the kind of guy who operates like this.
No. Full stop no. Don't put your dick in crazy and don't date for sport. Find a woman that will mother your children and keep your house a home. I know it's an enticing fantasy to break a wild mare and make her your trophy but you're giving yourself a fuckton of work for less payoff than just dating a sane woman to begin with. The right has the most beautiful and intelligent women which will actually be a worthwhile second-in-command when you start a family, not a project without guarantee of success for weak ass bragging rights. Leftist cunts are fit only to rot alone.
Oh, I agree with you generally speaking. Mostly because leftist women rarely submit to men and rarely to you if they're going to submit to anyone. One of the richest men in the world like Elon might actually be able to pull it off because of his wealth/power/influence etc... Whatever she lacks in morality to teach his kids, he can make up for it with tutors and all the other help she'll get due to his money.
For your average guy who just wants to find a woman to love him, support him and have his kids, leftist women are going to be a pretty bad choice.
You cannot replace a mother in that sense. And that also overlooks the genetic component where kids will inherit much of their intelligence from the mother. Healthy family structure makes no distinction between rich and poor and rich men are just as easily susceptible to the bad spirits surrounding a deranged liberal woman as poor men are. Stay away from women like that regardless of your background.
He's not based. He's a capitalist, therefore he hates communists.
The WaPo and many others are just intelligence gathering outfits and propaganda perpetrators.
Lol
Must be nice to have fuck you money
Bezos owns Wapo.
This is scripted wrestling bullshit.
He isn't just calling out Bezos, I think hes calling out the bankers and the guys who own Bezos. And who knows who else.
Context? What was WaPo asking Musk about?
"Democracy dies in darkness" and Joe Biden said it'd be a DARK winter so I guess the Washington Post admits that Joe Biden and his handlers are killing the republic.
I keep wondering if they just forgot to remove the Democracy Dies In Darkness the minute Biden was inaugurated, or if they retain it because it is actually their battle cry.
He had to read that in his own paper! Brilliant!
I don't know anyone, over the last few years who read the Washington Post.
I love Elon too. His company sued the Trump administration and I don't know where he put his money on this election.
Wants to run as president in 2024. Pathetic because by that time there will be no country left. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. A globalist through and through.
He can't run as President.
He was born in S. Africa.
So what? Neither was 0bama.
Yeah... but that's why the whole birther thing was fucking stupid. You just need ONE American parent to be natural-born citizen. It doesn't matter WHERE you are born.
Neither of Elon's parents are Americans either, so he's not eligible.
Justice Scalia single handedly destroyed the birther movement when he was asked where he would rule on this. He basically said that you are right.
Didnt stop KH
nah
Chinese assets can run as president, so....
hes not a globalist he knows what the game is he wants to leave earth to go to mars because and i quote 'there is no communists on mars'
No he's not. He just acts the role. He is a piece of shit.
cool story bro got anything other then your opinion ?
He wants to run as president? Never heard of that. Globalist? If you mean doing business worldwide, yes, but thats totally legit. The bad type globalists seek for powerful global institutions. Thats different.