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Revelation2010 37 points ago +39 / -2

It's time for the red states to secede. We cannot live with the power hungry democrats of the blue states.

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BirthHole 27 points ago +27 / -0

This is the answer - Sovereignty. Throw off the DC tyranny and adapt a fiscal MAGA 'new' America.

As the new america financially prospers, other states will want to join.

They have control of the vote count - there is no changing DC now.

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MagaChief 10 points ago +10 / -0

I’d rather see a red county wave. The state level is also too fucked up and compromised. A local movement of patriots has always been the way!

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MegoThor 21 points ago +21 / -0

You can’t vote away voter fraud.

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LessAndLessIronic 1 point ago +2 / -1

I disagree. Do you really think 2016 was a free and fair election? They tried just as much fraud then.

Voter fraud is never perfect. Every legitimate vote they have to counter makes it more expensive.

This goes triple for local elections. The fraud that elected Biden appears to have been concentrated in no more than a handful of counties. This made it possible to flip the presidential election, but it shows that our enemy is not omnipotent. They do not appear have the resources to counter a grassroots red wave in local government.

Our fight starts locally. Nothing wrong with calling out our disadvantages, but the defeatism needs to stop (unless you are advocating skipping all that and jumping straight to revolution and secesion, in which case carry on. That will also work.)

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spezisacuckold 7 points ago +7 / -0

They 100% did not try as many methods to steal the election back then. Yes there was a lot of fraud in 2016, but nowhere near the levels they committed in 2020. Something inside the left snapped. Trump broke them. So they were hellbent on him not being elected again and even went so far as to shutting down the entire world to get Trump out of office. Optics and livelihoods be damned.

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spezisacuckold 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fraud vitiates EVERYTHING.

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AmericaAllDay 4 points ago +4 / -0

Red states, like my home state of Florida, are too dependent on federal funding to secede. DeSantis continues to renew our state of emergency strictly for the federal funding! And under a state of emergency in Florida, you can be force vaccinated and all the corrupt counties use it as an excuse to issue mask mandates.

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BasedNtruth 7 points ago +7 / -0

A day will come when the bandaid must be pulled off. Allowing the federal government to brainwash your children and subvert your society is not a fair trade off for federal $$$

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LessAndLessIronic 5 points ago +5 / -0

Dependent on Federal funding.

Bullshit. There is no such thing as federal funding. Every dime of taxes the federal government collects comes from the states, and can be taken with a state that secedes.

The states are only as week as they are because we have allows the federal government to take the lions share of tax revenue from them. Individual states would collectively have exactly as many resources as the national government has, and with no international empire to support they would make better use of those funds.

It's true that some states get more money out than they put in, but the difference is never as large it is made out to be, and the actual benefits to individuals in a state of any given pork project are usually debatable.

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AmericaAllDay 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm with you, but I know in Florida we are too weak. If DeSantis isn't strong enough to stop renewing the state of emergency, he is weak. South Dakota may be the last state with the strength to secede. North Dakota seems to have a based House. But the majority of states are far too weak to secede and when it's only one or two instead of a confederation, the Union can team up and work against the states that secede.

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1A2A 3 points ago +3 / -0

Problem with that is we’ll then have Chinese occupied lands right next door.

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LessAndLessIronic 2 points ago +2 / -0

Secession now. Liberation of our neighbors later.

Plenty of good people will get left behind in the blue states. Some will get out. Presumably others will prefer stay put and build igloos (big ones).

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1A2A 3 points ago +3 / -0

If the Constitution is truly dead, which it seams to be, why not just lock out the cities? No more food/energy. Allow them to eat each other and live the consequences of their choices. Reclaim.

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Revelation2010 1 point ago +1 / -0

We're living with communists leading our government now.