The brainwashing is extensive. Just about everyone in the world is smart enough to know these paper masks are dogshit useless but it’s the 1% diehard evangelical believers in government control that are giving the rest of us a hard time. Masks should be outlawed and North Dakota and Florida are leading the way
I've said it so many times...that thing will not stop an airborne pathogen. A snot rocket maybe, but not covid. They hardly keep the pollen out of my nose when I cut the grass.
It's worth noting that this picture is lacking in information and probably not correct.
The virus never comes out of your mouth as a single virus. It's always attached to vapor and larger items that spray out. Who knows what the arrow is actually pointing at and who knows if the size is accurate. I thought the actual virus is much smaller than what is shown here. So is this showing the virus attached to some vapor?
The image represents only ONE layer of woven threads. There are, of course, multiple layers that increase the chances of any individual particle being obstructed/trapped, thus REDUCING the number of coof particles that get through. Hence the 1-mask=75%, 2-masks=90% claims. This "covid is smaller than mask holes" argument as a claim that masks do nothing is misleading at best.
No. Masks reduce the concentration of contaminants passing through it. It reduces risk en-masse. It does not eliminate individual risk. Is the benefit worth the cost? Maybe, maybe not.
At what concentration or viral load does someone catch the WuFlu? The CDCs own data shows "no significant" evidence that these masks prevent the transmission of Flu or WuFlu. Tell a virologist to wear a surgical mask while working with these viruses.
No idea. All I know is the OP image, and the general rhetoric on both sides tends toward the idiotic. A mask is not 100% effective. It's also not 0% effective. On a macro-scale in public areas, it seems obvious to me that mask wearing would reduce the amount of virus in that environment. Masks stop large drops of spittle from landing on surfaces, and protect your mouth and nose from the same. Handy if in a crowd. Personally, I don't wear a mask (mostly), but I live in a sane State that avoids the impulse to micromanage it's citizens.
If anything this picture waaaay over represents the virus’ size. You’re not seeing a virus at 25x. It would blow through two masks as easily as one. If you can breathe through it, a virus is getting through. That’s just common sense
Of course it is. Nobody EVER claimed masks stop 100% of anything. Wear Saran Wrap if you need that. But masks DO block a measurable percentage of anything that is forced to pass through it. Some fibers are bound to get in the way of some particles. What percentage?? Is it significant enough to matter? That's unclear.
A percentage gets through. Nobody has ever seriously claimed otherwise. Some mask material is bound to obstruct some virus particles. The layers are there specifically so the masks can filter out particles smaller than the gaps between fibers in a single ply. Defense-in-depth. Now, the question of whether the benefit is worth the cost is a separate issue.
That's not true. Plenty of people wear masks of high quality to filter out all types of dangerous materials and viruses. You just have to use high quality ones with great filters and you can't use them for extended periods of time. They also have to seal completely and securely on your face. Plenty of professional industries rely on masks for protection.
Now these masks are different than the worthless surgical masks and tshirt masks that CDC and others are pushing you to wear.
Then prove it. This is totally incorrect. Surgical masks, or any of the masks people are wearing for that matter, were never designed to stop viruses. Go all the way back to the Spanish Flu pandemic. They pushed the mask propaganda back then, too, and turns out, they were full of shit. We have been wearing masks for the better part of a year. If they worked, this scamdemic would've been over long ago. Even workers wearing N95 masks way back when this started still caught it. If you want to be safe, wear the airtight suits they wear in level 4 bio labs. All this other shit is just a security blanket for the sheep.
Yeah, I have to agree. There's been no compelling evidence that anything short of a respirator with P-100 carts or a full suit will do anything to stop the transmission or contraction of this or any other virus.
Even if the coveted N95 worked (no conclusive evidence that they do) a virus with a 99.98% recovery rate doesn't warrant the use of PPE on healthy people to begin with.
Yep. Another thing is, one of the main reasons they say we need to wear masks is because supposedly, all these people can spread covid while being asymptomatic. Not sure I buy that, and I'm not sure there's even any science that backs that up. In fact, one huge study came out fairly recently showing that asymptomatic spread was basically a non-issue. I believe the study was from China, so take that for what's it worth, but it included something like 10 million people.
Also, I know this is anecdotal, and I'm only a sample of one, but I went out to lunch with a co-worker a few weeks ago. We drove in the same car (maskless), ate together at a restaurant maskless, and then drove back to work. Her kid tested positive later that day, then her and the rest of her family popped positive in the following days. Supposedly, covid is super contagious, and being spread when people don't feel sick, yet I never caught it. Yeah, it kills people, but so do a lot of things, including the flu. The has got to be one of the most overblown, over-exaggerated things in the history of our existence.
Yeah, it's all insane. I'm even skeptical of people who test and claim to have gotten it because the PCR tests are so ridiculously unreliable. But everyone I know who has "gotten it" (and I do believe some of these cases are legit), every single one of them survived, most with only mild symptoms. Some got it worse and got really sick, but so what? I've gotten flus that made me feel like I was dying, that's just life. We never shut down the world over it before.
I never believed society as a whole was as gullible as 2020 revealed them to be, where common sense, logic, evidence or facts all stopped mattering. Everyone just went along without asking any questions or demanding any proof, surrendering not just their own freedoms but demanding others' freedoms as well, over what basically amounted to a big nothing "threat". It's just the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
Your comment is bullshit, just like masks. If masks worked against viruses, why don't the CDC workers just put on two or three surgical masks when in the lab? Why bother with a clunky, airtight suit?
I think you aren't able to read or something. Clearly I'm referring to masks that do work. I also say that the surgical and cloth masks don't work. There are different types of masks. You are unable to read content and understand what is being said.
OK, let's be clear, NONE of the masks that people are wearing work against COVID. No, it doesn't matter if they have a "high quality" filter. That's more bullshit on your part. The only thing that keeps viruses out is an airtight suit, which is why the professionals who deal with contagions wear them.
In my state people have been forced to wear masks in public since July. In November after several months of people wearing masks the covid numbers went through the roof and over the past month have dropped 70%. All with no change in mask rules. You might argue about people staying inside in the winter, but people were still inside when the numbers dropped. Masks make a negligible difference at best.
I began tracking the stats here in OH after masks were mandated. For a while, the daily case count fluctuated up and down with no change, and then there was a large spike again. Almost as if masks have no value....
The brainwashing is extensive. Just about everyone in the world is smart enough to know these paper masks are dogshit useless but it’s the 1% diehard evangelical believers in government control that are giving the rest of us a hard time. Masks should be outlawed and North Dakota and Florida are leading the way
But what if you wear 7 masks Bigot.
LET THIS BE A WARNING TO EVERYBODY
Man is nothing. You cannot trust in man. Ever.
This BASIC mathematics concept is being crucified by humanity at large.
TRUTH CRUSHED TO THE GROUND WILL RISE AGAIN. ALWAYS STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH.
I've said it so many times...that thing will not stop an airborne pathogen. A snot rocket maybe, but not covid. They hardly keep the pollen out of my nose when I cut the grass.
It's worth noting that this picture is lacking in information and probably not correct.
The virus never comes out of your mouth as a single virus. It's always attached to vapor and larger items that spray out. Who knows what the arrow is actually pointing at and who knows if the size is accurate. I thought the actual virus is much smaller than what is shown here. So is this showing the virus attached to some vapor?
The image represents only ONE layer of woven threads. There are, of course, multiple layers that increase the chances of any individual particle being obstructed/trapped, thus REDUCING the number of coof particles that get through. Hence the 1-mask=75%, 2-masks=90% claims. This "covid is smaller than mask holes" argument as a claim that masks do nothing is misleading at best.
No significant evidence that masks prevent the virus from spreading as the stated by the CDC.
No. Masks reduce the concentration of contaminants passing through it. It reduces risk en-masse. It does not eliminate individual risk. Is the benefit worth the cost? Maybe, maybe not.
At what concentration or viral load does someone catch the WuFlu? The CDCs own data shows "no significant" evidence that these masks prevent the transmission of Flu or WuFlu. Tell a virologist to wear a surgical mask while working with these viruses.
No idea. All I know is the OP image, and the general rhetoric on both sides tends toward the idiotic. A mask is not 100% effective. It's also not 0% effective. On a macro-scale in public areas, it seems obvious to me that mask wearing would reduce the amount of virus in that environment. Masks stop large drops of spittle from landing on surfaces, and protect your mouth and nose from the same. Handy if in a crowd. Personally, I don't wear a mask (mostly), but I live in a sane State that avoids the impulse to micromanage it's citizens.
I can respect that stance.
If anything this picture waaaay over represents the virus’ size. You’re not seeing a virus at 25x. It would blow through two masks as easily as one. If you can breathe through it, a virus is getting through. That’s just common sense
Exactly.
Of course it is. Nobody EVER claimed masks stop 100% of anything. Wear Saran Wrap if you need that. But masks DO block a measurable percentage of anything that is forced to pass through it. Some fibers are bound to get in the way of some particles. What percentage?? Is it significant enough to matter? That's unclear.
Masks don't do jack shit. Period. If you can breathe through them, that means air is getting through, and so is any virus.
A percentage gets through. Nobody has ever seriously claimed otherwise. Some mask material is bound to obstruct some virus particles. The layers are there specifically so the masks can filter out particles smaller than the gaps between fibers in a single ply. Defense-in-depth. Now, the question of whether the benefit is worth the cost is a separate issue.
That's not true. Plenty of people wear masks of high quality to filter out all types of dangerous materials and viruses. You just have to use high quality ones with great filters and you can't use them for extended periods of time. They also have to seal completely and securely on your face. Plenty of professional industries rely on masks for protection.
Now these masks are different than the worthless surgical masks and tshirt masks that CDC and others are pushing you to wear.
Then prove it. This is totally incorrect. Surgical masks, or any of the masks people are wearing for that matter, were never designed to stop viruses. Go all the way back to the Spanish Flu pandemic. They pushed the mask propaganda back then, too, and turns out, they were full of shit. We have been wearing masks for the better part of a year. If they worked, this scamdemic would've been over long ago. Even workers wearing N95 masks way back when this started still caught it. If you want to be safe, wear the airtight suits they wear in level 4 bio labs. All this other shit is just a security blanket for the sheep.
Lots of evidence right here: https://taketheredpillnow.weebly.com/
Yeah, I have to agree. There's been no compelling evidence that anything short of a respirator with P-100 carts or a full suit will do anything to stop the transmission or contraction of this or any other virus.
Even if the coveted N95 worked (no conclusive evidence that they do) a virus with a 99.98% recovery rate doesn't warrant the use of PPE on healthy people to begin with.
Yep. Another thing is, one of the main reasons they say we need to wear masks is because supposedly, all these people can spread covid while being asymptomatic. Not sure I buy that, and I'm not sure there's even any science that backs that up. In fact, one huge study came out fairly recently showing that asymptomatic spread was basically a non-issue. I believe the study was from China, so take that for what's it worth, but it included something like 10 million people.
Also, I know this is anecdotal, and I'm only a sample of one, but I went out to lunch with a co-worker a few weeks ago. We drove in the same car (maskless), ate together at a restaurant maskless, and then drove back to work. Her kid tested positive later that day, then her and the rest of her family popped positive in the following days. Supposedly, covid is super contagious, and being spread when people don't feel sick, yet I never caught it. Yeah, it kills people, but so do a lot of things, including the flu. The has got to be one of the most overblown, over-exaggerated things in the history of our existence.
Yeah, it's all insane. I'm even skeptical of people who test and claim to have gotten it because the PCR tests are so ridiculously unreliable. But everyone I know who has "gotten it" (and I do believe some of these cases are legit), every single one of them survived, most with only mild symptoms. Some got it worse and got really sick, but so what? I've gotten flus that made me feel like I was dying, that's just life. We never shut down the world over it before.
I never believed society as a whole was as gullible as 2020 revealed them to be, where common sense, logic, evidence or facts all stopped mattering. Everyone just went along without asking any questions or demanding any proof, surrendering not just their own freedoms but demanding others' freedoms as well, over what basically amounted to a big nothing "threat". It's just the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
Amen. Couldn't agree more. It'd be one thing if this were the Bubonic Plague, but it's not. Not by a long shot.
It's like you didn't read my comment and you are replying to something I didn't say...
Your comment is bullshit, just like masks. If masks worked against viruses, why don't the CDC workers just put on two or three surgical masks when in the lab? Why bother with a clunky, airtight suit?
I think you aren't able to read or something. Clearly I'm referring to masks that do work. I also say that the surgical and cloth masks don't work. There are different types of masks. You are unable to read content and understand what is being said.
OK, let's be clear, NONE of the masks that people are wearing work against COVID. No, it doesn't matter if they have a "high quality" filter. That's more bullshit on your part. The only thing that keeps viruses out is an airtight suit, which is why the professionals who deal with contagions wear them.
In my state people have been forced to wear masks in public since July. In November after several months of people wearing masks the covid numbers went through the roof and over the past month have dropped 70%. All with no change in mask rules. You might argue about people staying inside in the winter, but people were still inside when the numbers dropped. Masks make a negligible difference at best.
I began tracking the stats here in OH after masks were mandated. For a while, the daily case count fluctuated up and down with no change, and then there was a large spike again. Almost as if masks have no value....
Probably. Too bad we can't get some reliable scientific analysis to quantify the efficacy.