Yeah but we are implementing mitigating factors so the logical conclusion would be were the circumstances the same, chances are excess deaths would be edging higher with this coronavirus in circulation.
Oh that's pretty good. The death rate has gradually been increasing over the last few years it seems. Almost like maybe we have an aging population or something?!
Almost...and almost like that required them to be, on par, healthier than the earlier groups of the same age, but, almost also like that has a limit as the curve slowly expanded higher with average life expectancies, but, hey, science that doesn't correlate with the hysterical "follow the science" unscientific actions driven by politics isn't science according to those who wouldn't know 32.2 ft/s^2 if they fell off of a cliff and validated it empirically with their accelerating body.
I think it was obvious I was talking in regards to the UK, but I have added an edit. I will do more research on the US as it is interesting if there hasn't been the same trend there.
Understood. I simply threw that out there as evidence against all of it, as the UK, like many other countries, has been much more draconian than the US, and the US has no statistically significant impact due to its lenient, balkanized approaches to lockdown. (Lockdown, a term previously reserved only for use to manage a prison population. Yet, I suppose it still is used just for that, given some thought.)
All of the data and studies are out there to show this being true all over the globe, but they make it very difficult to find. I wonder why "they" would bury data when they sing "follow the science!' as their favorite hymn in front of the alter of Political Motivation.
We have never been a less scientifically-oriented society since we organized as a discernable society. I can forgive the people of the Middle Ages for their silly talismans and submission to the "witch doctor" advice they followed during times of panic. I will not give any such leniency of judgement to modern humans.
Flu deaths being counted as covid.
In the UK, if you die from a car crash within a month of recovering from covid, cause of death is recorded as covid.
This more than anything.
If you look at average deaths for 2020 compared to other years, you will find that it is much higher though.
Edit: I was talking in the context of the UK, I have not checked statistics for the USA. The comment I replied to was also in context of the UK.
Wrong. Deaths arent higher than a bad flu year and we never wore masks or quarantined for that.
Thanks for dispelling that very wrong statement. Death rates overall have been consistent from 2018-2020. Covid had no statistical impact.
I can't even find numbers from 2018-2020. Have they not been released yet?
In the UK there has definitely been an increase in 2020.
For the UK it is.
Who told you that, the BBC?
Show me UK Covid 19 deaths compared to flu deaths for 2020, then lets look at past numbers from a bad flu year in your country.
Yeah but we are implementing mitigating factors so the logical conclusion would be were the circumstances the same, chances are excess deaths would be edging higher with this coronavirus in circulation.
Wrong. Covid 19 is no more contagious than the flu. How is the flu nonexistent but covid 19 is raging, even with mitigating factors. Doesn't add up.
These "mitigating" factors are also leading to an increase in suicides and drug and alcohol over doses that normally also would not have occurred.
Death rates have gone up to less than the level of 2001, when there was the extreme pandemic of NOTHING AT ALL
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/january2021
What are you on? Your source shows that deaths are much higher in the UK rn than previous years.
That is a government source The Office of National Statistics
The deaths of 2001 show as higher than 2020
:)
Death rates per 100,000 were higher in 2020 than in 2016-2019, but 2020 death rates were lower than the years 2011-2015.
Don't remember shutting the world down those years, do you?
I am sure for the UK the death rate is the highest since the early 2000s. Not saying I agree with lockdowns, I don't.
False.
https://knoema.com/atlas/United-States-of-America/Death-rate
Oh that's pretty good. The death rate has gradually been increasing over the last few years it seems. Almost like maybe we have an aging population or something?!
Almost...and almost like that required them to be, on par, healthier than the earlier groups of the same age, but, almost also like that has a limit as the curve slowly expanded higher with average life expectancies, but, hey, science that doesn't correlate with the hysterical "follow the science" unscientific actions driven by politics isn't science according to those who wouldn't know 32.2 ft/s^2 if they fell off of a cliff and validated it empirically with their accelerating body.
I think it was obvious I was talking in regards to the UK, but I have added an edit. I will do more research on the US as it is interesting if there hasn't been the same trend there.
Understood. I simply threw that out there as evidence against all of it, as the UK, like many other countries, has been much more draconian than the US, and the US has no statistically significant impact due to its lenient, balkanized approaches to lockdown. (Lockdown, a term previously reserved only for use to manage a prison population. Yet, I suppose it still is used just for that, given some thought.)
All of the data and studies are out there to show this being true all over the globe, but they make it very difficult to find. I wonder why "they" would bury data when they sing "follow the science!' as their favorite hymn in front of the alter of Political Motivation.
We have never been a less scientifically-oriented society since we organized as a discernable society. I can forgive the people of the Middle Ages for their silly talismans and submission to the "witch doctor" advice they followed during times of panic. I will not give any such leniency of judgement to modern humans.
And:
https://fee.org/articles/lockdowns-not-linked-with-lower-covid-death-rates-new-study-finds/
Never said I agree with lockdowns - I don't.