Therein lies the problem. We're perfectly fine with letting grown folks do their own thing, so long as it doesn't affect others. That's not what they want. They want you to celebrate their perversion and make it a part of your life.
Exactly. I've had gay, lesbian, bisexual and heterosexual friends and roommates all my life. Nobody cared. You just kinda let it be known up front so nobody got drunk and groped the wrong persons, that's all.
I was friends with a funny drag queen. He was just hilarious gay dude with a regular job by day and then became equally hilarious drag queen with a full on music show by night. He was also one of the funniest and kindest people I have ever known.
None of these folks ever demanded that I "celebrate" their lifestyle above my own, nor did I tell them that mine was better. We just hung out and were people. The freaky left doesn't realize that all this pushing of their agenda in our faces is making people who just want to hang out, seriously resentful.
Even saying that homosexual sex is not procreative is considered a kind of hate speech.
And I am not sure that teenagers today would even understand what “not procreative” means.
(It means gay sex does not create new life. You are told this is a frivolous and meaningless detail but it’s actually not. It’s actually kind of the whole point and also where all human beings come from.)
OMFG. Back in 2015 an acquaintance ranted about how she hates it when people say they "don't care about gay marriage." She's not even gay. But apparently, saying "meh" toward same-sex relationships is the new gay-bashing. She was actually offended that people weren't dancing in the fucking streets over the (unconstitutional) national legalization of gay marriage.
They are angered by the fact that heterosexuality is the norm (for obvious biological reasons) and the far-left have even coined a term to attack us with: "heteronormativity".
Essentially, they want to shame us simply for being heterosexual resp. normal and even attempt portray us as predators ("homophobes"), just so they can indulge in their victimhood.
Fucking clown world. I am so sick of the dystopian society we live in.
I started caring what they do as grown adults when they began indoctrinating children and proclaiming anyone who disagrees with their perversion as "Nazis."
I started caring what they do as grown adults when they began "voting" to turn me into a tax slave.
I started caring what they do as grown adults when they started selling our country out to the Communist Chinese.
I started caring because they will not, and never had any intention to, stay in their lane.
Unfortunately, they've been encouraged to drive all over the goddamn road.
I can't speak from experience of knowing anyone who is trans, but I'm sure there are many that just want to be left alone and are disgusted by hormone blockers for kids.
I won't judge an entire group based on the most vocal.
they've been encouraged to drive all over the goddamn road.
Don't absolve them of responsibility. Every leftist is a tyrant at heart, they are leftists because they are evil, not because they were somehow tricked. Every single human being is responsible for what they do, and that includes voting for wickedness and depravity.
I won't judge an entire group based on the most vocal.
I sure will, because there are no other voices. If you don't want someone to speak for you, then speak against them. Otherwise they do speak for you.
I don't think anyone is absolving them of responsibility, just pointing out that they aren't the only ones pushing this. For every mentally ill tranny, there are 100 enabling cheerleaders trying to use their mental illness to increase their own social standing because leftists are garbage humans and only "care" about other people when they can use it to their own advantage.
just pointing out that they aren't the only ones pushing this.
I said this to the other guy(and of course he did not listen), but consider reading The Last Closet, by Moira Greyland.
They were the FIRST ones pushing this. They have been for fifty years. Their evil is one that has been adopted by the left, not one that was created by it.
Live and let live only works if everyone involved abides by it.
Leftists never have. Read The Last Closet, by Moira Greyland. She details how the "sexual liberation" movement has been a front for pedophiles since the 70s.
I enjoy a good argument, and even the occasional shit-fight, but I learned early on from my debate coach that there are two sources you can never use in a debate - The Bible and Reader's Digest.
No matter what you feel in your heart, citing Scripture is useless in changing the minds of people who aren't already believers. Readers Digest, People Magazine, etc? That's self evident.
This is a moral war, not a political one. Same reason we didn't decisively defeat the Muslims, because we brought a political ideology to a religious fight.
I told a Christian the same thing yesterday when they were losing a Twitter debate to a teenage atheist.
You need to consider who your audience is. Are trying to convince that person you are addressing or are you trying to influence anyone who witnesses your dialog with the person?
If I gave a shit about my audience, do you think I'd actually wallow in down-doots?
I kiss no-one's ass.
If getting a discussion going opens a can of worms who prey on me, I'm OK with that. I've got the balls to deal with it.
I only down-vote truly disgusting comments, BTW. The down-votes I receive say more about the close-minded idiocy of those who click the down arrow than about me.
It's that milquetoast mentality that got us here in the first fucking place. If you don't understand that this has never been about 'letting adults do what they want' but allowing the cancer of degeneracy to slowly rot away the core of our culture then you need to wake up and look around.
Imagine living in a world where you think it's acceptable for a grown man to go into the women's locker rooms because he's a girl today. These things never stop in the bedroom and the fact that you seem to think they do shows you're not fucking paying attention.
If you think I think it's OK for a man to be in a woman's locker room or bathroom, you are not paying attention.
I have gay and lesbian friends who are great people and not in my face at all. They are normal people, and of them is more MAGA than most people here.
The thing with me is that I don't want to be forced to pay attention. Do your own thing. None of my business. Don't try to make it my business, and we can live in harmony.
You're obviously not paying attention, they are making it your business. There is no middle ground here. They are forcing men into women's locker rooms, girl's sports and everywhere else they can. Passive 'live and let live' does not work.
The handful making noise are given tacit support by the thousands who do not oppose them.
People are only individuals when it's convenient to be. We are tribal by nature and to ignore that is to ignore how politics as a whole operates. It's this individualist mentality that has caused the erosion of our country and the rise of woke collectivism.
I'm okay with people being transgender. I'm also okay with people mutilating their bodies to pretend to be snakes or w/e. It's their choice, they can do what they want.
I will also never call it normal or anything but an indulgent sexual fetish.
You can be okay with people doing something abnormal without normalizing it.
Living in a free society means that people are free to be as weird as they want. What is not okay is how far they have taken it, to the point of using force to make people call it normal and be okay with it.
The problem we have in this country is that everyone is afraid to just say "No, sorry, I don't care if it hurts your feelings, you're not normal and nothing you do will change that. Be as abnormal as you want, but it will always be abnormal."
Without people willing to do that, the slippery slope becomes real.
Biden appointing this guy to anything having to do with medicine and science is comical, until you realize it is not a joke.
This is a person that supports hormone blockers for kids without parental consent.
We need members of Congress to take off the gloves and beat the shit out of this nominee politically.
This is the most radical nominee requiring Senate Approval that I've witnessed in my almost-sixty years. If we normalize this, we are past the tipping point.
Yep. This... person... and the accompanying "Equality Act" are going to destroy all freedom of speech and freedom of religion. The act establishes an official government religion. This isn't hyperbole. The bill makes all churches and religious entities (schools, charities) into "public accommodations" which must abide by government speech / hiring / teaching / belief rules, or be destroyed via fines. Only the Church of Woke will survive this.
Incentivize the destruction of two-parent families, make schools daycare centers for single mothers, and indoctrinate the kids with free breakfast and what do you have?
The government becomes the "husband" to the mother and "father" to generations of children.
If you look at it objectively and without emotion, it is a brilliant strategy.
The left have been creating and running voter farms.
He's been running the Pennsylvania Dept of Health until now. Imagine all of the Covid policies/lockdowns in a state being decided by someone suffering from profound psychosis.
In addition, we are being forced to pay for their drugs and mutilation surgeries. If they want to undergo elective surgeries they need to pay for it themselves, not expect health insurance (aka the rest of us) to pay for self mutilation.
No, I do not think this is possible. I know it sounds nice but you cannot say that some men who think they are women are “free” to “live as they choose to believe” or whatever. Because that IMMEDIATELY means human rights and social recognition. It just does. We cannot conduct two simultaneous societies at once - one where gender is binary and biological, and one where gender is fluid and psychological - and not expect all sorts of problems. Problems with architecture, with forms and paperwork, with certificates, with education, with sports, with recreation, with law, with the foundations of science. The whole idea is madness, but nobody wants to be “mean”, so people are trying to come up with some sort of compromise.
The only way out of this is for us to reclassify gender dysphoria back into a mental illness, revoke the license of all these doctors amputating genitals, and dismiss this whole thing as an obscene medical error, like electroshock therapy and lobotomies. As soon as we recognize “transgenderism” as valid in any way, we are forced to overhaul our entire society to accommodate the destructive whims of a mental illness that has been turned into an ideology.
Transgender people are NOT trapped in the wrong body. They are that body. They are suffering from a mental disorder that causes them to FEEL as though they are in the wrong body, in the same way that the anorexic perceives their skeletal body as disgustingly obese. The perception IS the disorder. We sympathize with the body and gender dysmorphic, but we do not indulge the fallacies of their illness. And yes, this upsets them. That is part of the healing process.
I know some democrat feminists that are against Trans people encroaching on women's issues. The person I knew always posted screenshots of themselves getting harassed by other democrats about their opinions on the matter. You love to see this kind of stuff.
I've seen that too. Lesbian feminists who refuse to accept women with dicks are negatively referred to as TERF's.
I've been saying for a long time that the LGB movement should not have allowed any additional letters. By their very nature, those groups define their sexual preferences on gender. If one removes gender, they have no core reason to exist.
Many trans activists are claiming that a lesbian who refuses to enter into a relationship with a woman with a penis is transphobic.
Apparently, it is ugly for them on dating apps. Matches are nothing but tranny's. You can't make a choice for a biological female. Or even allude to that in your profile or get kicked off. Trans have already ran them out of their organizations and spaces. It is really disgusting.
I think the problem is that Trans people aren't upfront about being Trans. Their goal is to be "passable" as the opposite sex. They are basically catfishing people and then acting surprised when someone sees the wrong genitalia they were after and cracks them in the mouth.
I don't have a problem with them existing. However, I believe a lot of it is gender dysphagia and other mental illness. I can't wait for the lawsuits to start flying over people transitioning.
Same here, I think they should disclose what genitalia they have along with their pronouns. For their own safety and reputation. Baiting a potential mate into thinking you have genitalia that you don't have just seems like a shitty thing to on an individual and societal level.
It is sad to see stories where Trans people get beat up (and worse) or when they get treated like pariahs but they kind of invite that stuff by being dishonest with people.
Seems like a lot already revolted quietly at the ballot box but got their vote stolen by one of many fraudulent practices.
The problem is that secret Trump supporters don't want to be vocal about supporting him because the masses will turn on them. The whole country is being gaslight by the media and mass hysteria.
Democrats are the type that will tell you the good of the many should come before the good of the few. In reality they'll throw half the population to the wolves to appease 0.03% of the population.
There's a difference between empathy and compassion. Empathy is being able to put yourself in someone else shoes, compassion is understanding that doing unpopular things is often better for society than doing whats popular
People can play dress up all they want. But transgender operations are more morally bankrupt than lobotomies. It’s like telling a schizo to listen to the voices. These doctors will burn in hell.
There's a difference between creating your own identity and being able to visit a loved one (who would want you there) in a hospital and having a sick fucking fetish you intend to force on others. There is a bigger problem than the rights of individuals, sinners or not, shared values or not, being suppressed than a handful of corporations using these so-called identities to impose their will on the entire American economic system.
This isn't about gays and crossdressers getting to live free from repression, harassment, victimization, or violence.
This is about Facebook, Google, Amazon, Netflix, Disney, Time Warner, ATT, and many other corporations that have betrayed the United States of America.
We went from Occupy Wall Street to Wall Street Occupation nearly overnight and they're using insane ideas to wrench and retain power.
"All people who suffer from gender dysphoria (...) have a right to live as they choose. However, the current policy makers propose that they have no choice but to accept that they should receive (and often be compelled to accept) absurd preferential treatment, that tramples over rights of women. The majority of these people have common sense, wants to live in peace; but the extremist policies of this administration won't allow them to be day-to-day people."
I HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY- ARE DOING TO CHILDREN, SOME AS YOUNG AS THREE!
IDENTIFY THE BASTARDS DOING THIS AND TAKE ACTION! I'LL LEAVE IT AS TO WHAT LAW FIRM YOU CHOOSE BUT GET ONE THAT CAN TAKE THESE PEOPLE AND THERI ORGANIZATIONS TO COURT AND WIN-
WHERE THEY ARE AFFECTING CHILDREN I'LL DEFNE THAT AS ANYONE UNDER 16!
AND WHERE THE HELL ARE THEF FEMALE LAWYERS DEFENDING WOMEN ATHLETES?
Yes at 18 I don’t care what you do as long as it doesn’t infringe on others rights, and as long as you don’t expect others to conform to you. Obviously not what the left wants though.
I believe people are able to live however they so choose so long as they aren’t hurting anyone, but I desire the ability to be critical of their lifestyle.
I remember back to the gay marriage debate and only really had one question, why was it the responsibility of the government to determine what was marriage? Who gave the government to define words?
I think the problem with the ‘live and let live’ philosophy in relation to the coalition of sexual degenerates is that they don’t want to apply that standard to you. Their strongest desire and ambition in life is to affect a change in society to make it recognise their perversion as the norm, and the heterosexual default for humans as abnormal. First it was equality and that sounded reasonable, today it’s the children, their sex/gender and soon universal consent and their right to take your children to bed. It’ll eventually be some sort of act of tribute or fealty, where the straight individual has to prove their lack of “hate” by allowing some act or another on themselves, the extent of which to be decided by them based upon how much “hate” they think you need to be cleansed of.
Ah yes conservatives. That tribe of people who conserve the status quo so effectively that even as what is acceptable shifts ever left, at least they put up a limp wristed “stop”.
Great question. I was a conservative until very recently.
Now I would consider myself a national traditionalist. I’m less concerned with the last 60 years, and more with the next 60. We will see what we accomplish then.
Sure if you want to interpret it that way. I believed that there was a political solution.
I no longer believe that there is a political solution. I have kept the core tenets of traditional gender roles, a strong family, a fair but vicious international policy, and a generous domestic policy to citizens. What I am left with is what I advocate for, and I will encourage people here for the same.
I don't particularly care if someone is mentally ill, based on your definition or a clinician's, as long as they mind their own fucking business and don't get up in my grill.
If you don't understand that the gay, trans, whatever-perversion-comes-next things is about destroying America from within - then you don't understand communism yet.
Fight it all with everything you have. Having said that - my neighbor is gay. We get along great. People are human beings and have value, and I will never treat a human being as less than. But treating a human being as valuable, and approving, condoning, or accepting behavior are two different things.
I'm not. Especially when they are pushing it onto our children. It's a slippery slope. It's would be better to just deal with it instead of let them push their gender blurring agenda.
So when thr back lash starts, who wants to bet on how quickly the Left will start saying this has always been a.plot by white males to force their way into whatever.
Therein lies the problem. We're perfectly fine with letting grown folks do their own thing, so long as it doesn't affect others. That's not what they want. They want you to celebrate their perversion and make it a part of your life.
^^^This. By not celebrating, you are labelled a transphobe.
Exactly. I've had gay, lesbian, bisexual and heterosexual friends and roommates all my life. Nobody cared. You just kinda let it be known up front so nobody got drunk and groped the wrong persons, that's all.
I was friends with a funny drag queen. He was just hilarious gay dude with a regular job by day and then became equally hilarious drag queen with a full on music show by night. He was also one of the funniest and kindest people I have ever known.
None of these folks ever demanded that I "celebrate" their lifestyle above my own, nor did I tell them that mine was better. We just hung out and were people. The freaky left doesn't realize that all this pushing of their agenda in our faces is making people who just want to hang out, seriously resentful.
Amen.
A lesbian friend said to me many years ago that she didn't give a shit about the science. "I'm sexually attracted to women. Deal with it."
No argument from me.
I agree. I just hate people who also refuse to admit that it’s a perversion, and abnormal, which is the 🤡🌎 we live in now.
Even saying that homosexual sex is not procreative is considered a kind of hate speech.
And I am not sure that teenagers today would even understand what “not procreative” means.
(It means gay sex does not create new life. You are told this is a frivolous and meaningless detail but it’s actually not. It’s actually kind of the whole point and also where all human beings come from.)
Stop being a bigot. 😁
Gay people can do what they want, but don't expect me to lie about it.
Still a mental illness 🤷♂️
OMFG. Back in 2015 an acquaintance ranted about how she hates it when people say they "don't care about gay marriage." She's not even gay. But apparently, saying "meh" toward same-sex relationships is the new gay-bashing. She was actually offended that people weren't dancing in the fucking streets over the (unconstitutional) national legalization of gay marriage.
Good, I'll happily take that title then. Fuck trannies
Fuck trannies? That's a few tokes over the line for me.
no, I meant it as in "to hell with them"
I know. I would never assume anyone would ever want to do that. Just playing with words.
yeah i know what you mean. don't worry fren
Respect my hetero normative culture, bigots
They are angered by the fact that heterosexuality is the norm (for obvious biological reasons) and the far-left have even coined a term to attack us with: "heteronormativity".
Essentially, they want to shame us simply for being heterosexual resp. normal and even attempt portray us as predators ("homophobes"), just so they can indulge in their victimhood.
Fucking clown world. I am so sick of the dystopian society we live in.
Allowing them to do that leads us to where we are today. This simp faggot mentality is literally the problem.
TIL. Thanks Internet Tough Guy! 🙄
He’s definitely not wrong though. You end up having to endure whatever you decide to tolerate.
Another wise ITG. 👍🏻
And worse. Proselytyze and sell this to your kids.
I want tjem to accept my form of celebration. When i identity as celebratory i start punching people in the face. Don't be a bigot.
Hmmmm, McConnell, Roberts and at least one other prominent official had a mysterious black eye in the past year. What were you celebrating? ;)
I started caring what they do as grown adults when they began indoctrinating children and proclaiming anyone who disagrees with their perversion as "Nazis."
I started caring what they do as grown adults when they began "voting" to turn me into a tax slave.
I started caring what they do as grown adults when they started selling our country out to the Communist Chinese.
I started caring because they will not, and never had any intention to, stay in their lane.
Unfortunately, they've been encouraged to drive all over the goddamn road.
I can't speak from experience of knowing anyone who is trans, but I'm sure there are many that just want to be left alone and are disgusted by hormone blockers for kids.
I won't judge an entire group based on the most vocal.
Don't absolve them of responsibility. Every leftist is a tyrant at heart, they are leftists because they are evil, not because they were somehow tricked. Every single human being is responsible for what they do, and that includes voting for wickedness and depravity.
I sure will, because there are no other voices. If you don't want someone to speak for you, then speak against them. Otherwise they do speak for you.
I don't think anyone is absolving them of responsibility, just pointing out that they aren't the only ones pushing this. For every mentally ill tranny, there are 100 enabling cheerleaders trying to use their mental illness to increase their own social standing because leftists are garbage humans and only "care" about other people when they can use it to their own advantage.
I said this to the other guy(and of course he did not listen), but consider reading The Last Closet, by Moira Greyland.
They were the FIRST ones pushing this. They have been for fifty years. Their evil is one that has been adopted by the left, not one that was created by it.
I think a better approach to that is for everyone to simply mind their own business and shut the fuck up.
Live and let live only works if everyone involved abides by it.
Leftists never have. Read The Last Closet, by Moira Greyland. She details how the "sexual liberation" movement has been a front for pedophiles since the 70s.
I consider myself sexually liberated. I've had some very wild and fun experiences since my divorce where sex was a sport instead of an act of love.
Pedophiles should be castrated without anesthesia.
I enjoy a good argument, and even the occasional shit-fight, but I learned early on from my debate coach that there are two sources you can never use in a debate - The Bible and Reader's Digest.
No matter what you feel in your heart, citing Scripture is useless in changing the minds of people who aren't already believers. Readers Digest, People Magazine, etc? That's self evident.
This is a moral war, not a political one. Same reason we didn't decisively defeat the Muslims, because we brought a political ideology to a religious fight.
In the US, the moral war must be fought in the political arena, Fren.
Not for long.
The down-doots tell me all I need to know about you.
As if a simple click could rescue you from your micro-penis.
Your coach was a dirty communist. 😁
No he wasn't. He simply gave his students the ability to call you Retards.
I told a Christian the same thing yesterday when they were losing a Twitter debate to a teenage atheist.
You need to consider who your audience is. Are trying to convince that person you are addressing or are you trying to influence anyone who witnesses your dialog with the person?
I am who I am.
If I gave a shit about my audience, do you think I'd actually wallow in down-doots?
I kiss no-one's ass.
If getting a discussion going opens a can of worms who prey on me, I'm OK with that. I've got the balls to deal with it.
I only down-vote truly disgusting comments, BTW. The down-votes I receive say more about the close-minded idiocy of those who click the down arrow than about me.
Fucking childish behavior.
I use relay pro as an interface so I have no idea if my comments get upvoted or downvoted. Its the furthest thing from my mind.
a free society cannot exist when narcissistic freaks, such as trannies and other "people", demand society kneels for them
Wtf. No, mental health problems shouldn’t be accepted as normal, so being ok with people being transgender is wrong.
This. These people don't need encouragement.
her attitude is how we ended up here in the first place
I don't give a damn if a grown man wears a diaper and thinks he's a baby.
Not my problem until he tries to force me to accept it as normal.
That's the whole point - you mind your business and I'll mind mine.
Imagine a world where someone could openly criticize you and and your wife for having sex in anything other than the Missionary position.
Is that our business? If not, why not?
It's that milquetoast mentality that got us here in the first fucking place. If you don't understand that this has never been about 'letting adults do what they want' but allowing the cancer of degeneracy to slowly rot away the core of our culture then you need to wake up and look around.
Imagine living in a world where you think it's acceptable for a grown man to go into the women's locker rooms because he's a girl today. These things never stop in the bedroom and the fact that you seem to think they do shows you're not fucking paying attention.
If you think I think it's OK for a man to be in a woman's locker room or bathroom, you are not paying attention.
I have gay and lesbian friends who are great people and not in my face at all. They are normal people, and of them is more MAGA than most people here.
The thing with me is that I don't want to be forced to pay attention. Do your own thing. None of my business. Don't try to make it my business, and we can live in harmony.
You're obviously not paying attention, they are making it your business. There is no middle ground here. They are forcing men into women's locker rooms, girl's sports and everywhere else they can. Passive 'live and let live' does not work.
You haven't been paying attention. I don't want them in girl's locker rooms or bathrooms. I want them to get out of our faces.
At the same time, I will never attribute "they" to thousands when there are only a handful making the noise.
As a Trump supporter, I don't appreciate being called a Nazi by association. I don't want to be inconsistent in how I treat others.
People are individuals.
The handful making noise are given tacit support by the thousands who do not oppose them.
People are only individuals when it's convenient to be. We are tribal by nature and to ignore that is to ignore how politics as a whole operates. It's this individualist mentality that has caused the erosion of our country and the rise of woke collectivism.
It is the individualist mentality that has made this the greatest country on the planet.
I'm okay with people being transgender. I'm also okay with people mutilating their bodies to pretend to be snakes or w/e. It's their choice, they can do what they want.
I will also never call it normal or anything but an indulgent sexual fetish.
You can be okay with people doing something abnormal without normalizing it.
Living in a free society means that people are free to be as weird as they want. What is not okay is how far they have taken it, to the point of using force to make people call it normal and be okay with it.
The problem we have in this country is that everyone is afraid to just say "No, sorry, I don't care if it hurts your feelings, you're not normal and nothing you do will change that. Be as abnormal as you want, but it will always be abnormal."
Without people willing to do that, the slippery slope becomes real.
There's a BIG difference between having a RIGHT to do something and me not CARING what you do.
YES, you have the right to mutilate yourself, dress up like a nut and pretend you are something you are not.
BUT, it is NOT good for society. I am AGAINST it. I will advocate AGAINST it. I will try to teach children NOT to do it. I will NOT normalize it.
But yes, you have the RIGHT to do it.
This is an important distinction.
People are going to start caring, a lot, if they don't stop pushing
Agreed.
Biden appointing this guy to anything having to do with medicine and science is comical, until you realize it is not a joke.
This is a person that supports hormone blockers for kids without parental consent.
We need members of Congress to take off the gloves and beat the shit out of this nominee politically.
This is the most radical nominee requiring Senate Approval that I've witnessed in my almost-sixty years. If we normalize this, we are past the tipping point.
Yep. This... person... and the accompanying "Equality Act" are going to destroy all freedom of speech and freedom of religion. The act establishes an official government religion. This isn't hyperbole. The bill makes all churches and religious entities (schools, charities) into "public accommodations" which must abide by government speech / hiring / teaching / belief rules, or be destroyed via fines. Only the Church of Woke will survive this.
Incentivize the destruction of two-parent families, make schools daycare centers for single mothers, and indoctrinate the kids with free breakfast and what do you have?
The government becomes the "husband" to the mother and "father" to generations of children.
If you look at it objectively and without emotion, it is a brilliant strategy.
The left have been creating and running voter farms.
yeah for many years i was left-leaning my belief was that men who are dads are "unmanly".
That is what the media sells. Especially Hollywood.
He's been running the Pennsylvania Dept of Health until now. Imagine all of the Covid policies/lockdowns in a state being decided by someone suffering from profound psychosis.
Also violation of everyone's 1st amendment right when they require us to use their pronouns. Compelled speech is the opposite of free speech.
Thanks, LostViking. This is the concept that made Jordan Peterson a household name.
He put the breaks on that and explained it to the masses.
Thanks for the reminder, Pede.
This is a much more important example of crossing into my lane - "Compelled speech is the opposite of free speech."
AND STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM CHILDREN!
Transgender are a bunch of mentally ill freaks and should be locked in a mental institution to keep the rest of us safe.
i agree with you
That's the liberla position. Liberals get the bullet too, as the progressive says.
In addition, we are being forced to pay for their drugs and mutilation surgeries. If they want to undergo elective surgeries they need to pay for it themselves, not expect health insurance (aka the rest of us) to pay for self mutilation.
No, I do not think this is possible. I know it sounds nice but you cannot say that some men who think they are women are “free” to “live as they choose to believe” or whatever. Because that IMMEDIATELY means human rights and social recognition. It just does. We cannot conduct two simultaneous societies at once - one where gender is binary and biological, and one where gender is fluid and psychological - and not expect all sorts of problems. Problems with architecture, with forms and paperwork, with certificates, with education, with sports, with recreation, with law, with the foundations of science. The whole idea is madness, but nobody wants to be “mean”, so people are trying to come up with some sort of compromise.
The only way out of this is for us to reclassify gender dysphoria back into a mental illness, revoke the license of all these doctors amputating genitals, and dismiss this whole thing as an obscene medical error, like electroshock therapy and lobotomies. As soon as we recognize “transgenderism” as valid in any way, we are forced to overhaul our entire society to accommodate the destructive whims of a mental illness that has been turned into an ideology.
Transgender people are NOT trapped in the wrong body. They are that body. They are suffering from a mental disorder that causes them to FEEL as though they are in the wrong body, in the same way that the anorexic perceives their skeletal body as disgustingly obese. The perception IS the disorder. We sympathize with the body and gender dysmorphic, but we do not indulge the fallacies of their illness. And yes, this upsets them. That is part of the healing process.
I know some democrat feminists that are against Trans people encroaching on women's issues. The person I knew always posted screenshots of themselves getting harassed by other democrats about their opinions on the matter. You love to see this kind of stuff.
I've seen that too. Lesbian feminists who refuse to accept women with dicks are negatively referred to as TERF's.
I've been saying for a long time that the LGB movement should not have allowed any additional letters. By their very nature, those groups define their sexual preferences on gender. If one removes gender, they have no core reason to exist.
Many trans activists are claiming that a lesbian who refuses to enter into a relationship with a woman with a penis is transphobic.
So this is a guaranteed way for a person to force a lesbian woman to court them. Sounds like a violation of women's rights/individual rights.
Let the redpilling begin I guess. Hope our fellow Americans wake the heck up.
Apparently, it is ugly for them on dating apps. Matches are nothing but tranny's. You can't make a choice for a biological female. Or even allude to that in your profile or get kicked off. Trans have already ran them out of their organizations and spaces. It is really disgusting.
I think the problem is that Trans people aren't upfront about being Trans. Their goal is to be "passable" as the opposite sex. They are basically catfishing people and then acting surprised when someone sees the wrong genitalia they were after and cracks them in the mouth.
I don't have a problem with them existing. However, I believe a lot of it is gender dysphagia and other mental illness. I can't wait for the lawsuits to start flying over people transitioning.
Same here, I think they should disclose what genitalia they have along with their pronouns. For their own safety and reputation. Baiting a potential mate into thinking you have genitalia that you don't have just seems like a shitty thing to on an individual and societal level.
It is sad to see stories where Trans people get beat up (and worse) or when they get treated like pariahs but they kind of invite that stuff by being dishonest with people.
^^^ This.
Lesbians and gay men will revolt.
It's funny. They're learning about the slippery slope. Your turn! 😂
Seems like a lot already revolted quietly at the ballot box but got their vote stolen by one of many fraudulent practices.
The problem is that secret Trump supporters don't want to be vocal about supporting him because the masses will turn on them. The whole country is being gaslight by the media and mass hysteria.
i love seeing terf's get canceled. fuck them to hell -- they were the start of all my issues with society
Screw that. They get proper psychiatric help or they go to a mental asylum.
Exactly. And NOBODY under 18 should be allowed to do anything to alter their gender or body. Period.
But they WON'T LEAVE US ALONE.
They are allowed to live but they should not be promoted as normal.
Democrats are the type that will tell you the good of the many should come before the good of the few. In reality they'll throw half the population to the wolves to appease 0.03% of the population.
There's a difference between empathy and compassion. Empathy is being able to put yourself in someone else shoes, compassion is understanding that doing unpopular things is often better for society than doing whats popular
Agree 100%. You have the RIGHT to be as confused as you want to be. You have absolutely no right to force other people to "support" you.
And keep your fucking hands off our kids!!!!!!
They have the right to be locked up in a mental house
That’s the fucking problem with the left. They INSIST you are bothered, they don’t know how to just live life and let others be.
Taxes are the extreme end of not leaving you alone btw, because they basically point a gun to your head and say “pay for my extreme views or else”.
What are you even conserving? If someone identifies as a quadruple amputee would you legally approve a surgeon to cut his limbs off?
People can play dress up all they want. But transgender operations are more morally bankrupt than lobotomies. It’s like telling a schizo to listen to the voices. These doctors will burn in hell.
I can't wait for trannies to call real women privileged.
It would be the understatement of the century. Privileged doesn't even begin to describe them.
Lmao, I would love it to happen honestly. Pit the simps and the fags against each other
There's a difference between creating your own identity and being able to visit a loved one (who would want you there) in a hospital and having a sick fucking fetish you intend to force on others. There is a bigger problem than the rights of individuals, sinners or not, shared values or not, being suppressed than a handful of corporations using these so-called identities to impose their will on the entire American economic system.
This isn't about gays and crossdressers getting to live free from repression, harassment, victimization, or violence.
This is about Facebook, Google, Amazon, Netflix, Disney, Time Warner, ATT, and many other corporations that have betrayed the United States of America.
We went from Occupy Wall Street to Wall Street Occupation nearly overnight and they're using insane ideas to wrench and retain power.
Too spot on.
"All people who suffer from gender dysphoria (...) have a right to live as they choose. However, the current policy makers propose that they have no choice but to accept that they should receive (and often be compelled to accept) absurd preferential treatment, that tramples over rights of women. The majority of these people have common sense, wants to live in peace; but the extremist policies of this administration won't allow them to be day-to-day people."
I HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY- ARE DOING TO CHILDREN, SOME AS YOUNG AS THREE!
IDENTIFY THE BASTARDS DOING THIS AND TAKE ACTION! I'LL LEAVE IT AS TO WHAT LAW FIRM YOU CHOOSE BUT GET ONE THAT CAN TAKE THESE PEOPLE AND THERI ORGANIZATIONS TO COURT AND WIN-
WHERE THEY ARE AFFECTING CHILDREN I'LL DEFNE THAT AS ANYONE UNDER 16!
AND WHERE THE HELL ARE THEF FEMALE LAWYERS DEFENDING WOMEN ATHLETES?
Yes at 18 I don’t care what you do as long as it doesn’t infringe on others rights, and as long as you don’t expect others to conform to you. Obviously not what the left wants though.
Link - https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1365075013871763458
"Grown adult" is a key condition here.
I believe people are able to live however they so choose so long as they aren’t hurting anyone, but I desire the ability to be critical of their lifestyle.
I remember back to the gay marriage debate and only really had one question, why was it the responsibility of the government to determine what was marriage? Who gave the government to define words?
This nuance was lost on people.
If an adult acts like a child living a make-believe life they are mentally ill and should be locked up, so all libtards, faggots and trannies
This. I don't give a shit what you do with your life so long as:
I have to right to hold an opinion about anything whether you like that opinion or not.
Pretty damn simple I think.
I think the problem with the ‘live and let live’ philosophy in relation to the coalition of sexual degenerates is that they don’t want to apply that standard to you. Their strongest desire and ambition in life is to affect a change in society to make it recognise their perversion as the norm, and the heterosexual default for humans as abnormal. First it was equality and that sounded reasonable, today it’s the children, their sex/gender and soon universal consent and their right to take your children to bed. It’ll eventually be some sort of act of tribute or fealty, where the straight individual has to prove their lack of “hate” by allowing some act or another on themselves, the extent of which to be decided by them based upon how much “hate” they think you need to be cleansed of.
Ah yes conservatives. That tribe of people who conserve the status quo so effectively that even as what is acceptable shifts ever left, at least they put up a limp wristed “stop”.
If you are not "conservative", what label/group defines you, and what has that group accomplished in the last 60 years?
Great question. I was a conservative until very recently.
Now I would consider myself a national traditionalist. I’m less concerned with the last 60 years, and more with the next 60. We will see what we accomplish then.
In other words you changed your views slightly to be able to shit on your former self.
Sure if you want to interpret it that way. I believed that there was a political solution.
I no longer believe that there is a political solution. I have kept the core tenets of traditional gender roles, a strong family, a fair but vicious international policy, and a generous domestic policy to citizens. What I am left with is what I advocate for, and I will encourage people here for the same.
an that's the problem, there will never be a compromise with the mentally ill.
I don't particularly care if someone is mentally ill, based on your definition or a clinician's, as long as they mind their own fucking business and don't get up in my grill.
which they are, because they're mentally ill.
Don't be too flippant with that term. Many on the left think that Trump supporters are "mentally ill" cultists.
That label in the wrong minds could get you committed.
not being flippant about it, just saying they are never gonna leave anyone alone, they just want an excuse to cause trouble.
If you don't understand that the gay, trans, whatever-perversion-comes-next things is about destroying America from within - then you don't understand communism yet.
Fight it all with everything you have. Having said that - my neighbor is gay. We get along great. People are human beings and have value, and I will never treat a human being as less than. But treating a human being as valuable, and approving, condoning, or accepting behavior are two different things.
They are a tiny minority of our population; however, they want their disgusting perversions foisted on the rest of us and our children. HELL NO!
What's the big deal anyways? Man to woman are better women, and women who become men are still women.
I'm not. Especially when they are pushing it onto our children. It's a slippery slope. It's would be better to just deal with it instead of let them push their gender blurring agenda.
And trampling over the rights of children, as well as the mentally ill.
So when thr back lash starts, who wants to bet on how quickly the Left will start saying this has always been a.plot by white males to force their way into whatever.
Two people say they are uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with a man. One of them is a bigot, the other is a pervert.
"How does the collective mental and physical wellbeing of society affect you? Mind your biz." You deserve what you tolerate.
How can I be intolerant of something I'm not aware of?
I live in New England, and am well aware of Puritanism.
Not my cup of tea.