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Independenceforever 0 points ago +1 / -1

How do you get those numbers?

Whom do YOU define as a "jew"?

Do you not know that term comes from the Bible?

Abraham fathered Isaac.

Who fathered Jacob (who was SYMBOLICALLY RENAMED "ISRAEL" BY JEHOVAH.)

Who fathered Judah.

Israel had no king, for GOD was their king.

The law came from a Levite (moses).

When Israel rejected the judges (samuel of EPHRAIM), God gave them a king from BENJAMIN.

Because Saul was a bad king, God raised up David.

Despite God telling his COVENANT PEOPLE, symbolically called ISRAEL, that a king would be a curse to them, God promised to raise the best kings possible for his people through the line of DAVID.

When Solomon died, his son was wicked. EPHRAIM wanted lighter burdens, less taxes. Rehoboam refused to grant them (like our current congress) and threatened the people.

So God raised up JEROBOAM to lead TEN tribes in a SPLIT kingdom.

They were going to have a CIVIL WAR until God's prophet intervenes and tells them all to go home.

So they split into two kingdoms who became known as

  1. Israel - the Northern kingdom, ten tribes (and some Levites) centered at Samaria

  2. Judah - the Southern kingdom 2 tribes (Judah and Benjamin, with Levites) centered at the city of David.

The north kingdom IMMEDIATELY TURNED TO IDOL WORSHIP.

Eventually they so angered the Lord that they were expelled from his presence and sent to exile.

The south kingdom EVENTUALLY turned to idol worship and also expelled and exiled (or killed).

The book of Isaiah covers this very clearly.

Though they were SYMBOLICALLY REFERRED TO as Judah, Jews, or Israel, THEY WERE ONE POLITICAL IDENTITY.

They were not a single race. They intermarried constantly (Solomon, lol, you might say is the true father of islam, not mohammed, sorry).

Their ONLY RELIGIOUS IDENTITY comes through Jacob (called Israel), through Isaac and Abraham - each met with Jehovah face to face when they symbolically separated from "the world" and became God's servants.

THE ONLY POLITICAL IDENTITY comes through OBEDIENCE to GOD as king, or surrogate kingship granted under David.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY JESUS WAS BORN OF THE TRIBE OF DAVID. IT COMPLETES THE ENTIRE NARRATIVE OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE "JEWISH".

It isn't hard to define your terms.

The midrash and Talmud AREN'T "JEWISH" by any accurate definition whatsoever. Not anymore than "Catholicism" is what all "Christians" should be defined as.

Not anymore than the Nicene Creed define what it means to follow Jesus. They have NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH WHAT JESUS TAUGHT.

You might try to associate them with him. But JESUS DIDN'T TEACH THAT.

Likewise, the heritage of Judah, political or religious, is VERY CLEARLY OUTLINED IN EXACT TERMS WITH PENALTIES IN THE BIBLE.

Over and over, the law and prophets require EQUAL TREATMENT of "jew" and foreigner"

You'll notice Jesus will teach in parallels - on the one hand he'll tell Peter, for example,

"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME TELLING HIM

"But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men."

Because things with God exist in parallels

  1. as your covenant blessing

  2. as your covenant curse (penalty for breaking his law. there is no life at all without your God, pal.)

If you read your bible, you'll notice these things. Especially in the Book of Isaiah. When God is angry, he calls you Jacob. When he's pleased with you, he calls you "Israel" or "my servant".

See and Jesus even RESPONDS to questions about how long he will hold justice.

Imagine READING THE "Old Testament" to find out what a "jew" was.

If you'd sidestep that scam number one, you could have skipped this whole post and read it for yourself.

Judah was just a man. I'd be pretty impossible to prove whom his actual literal descendants are.

Or like Jesus says, they were just the descendants of those who stoned the prophets.

Vengeance belongs to God.

Please guys stop being retarded and read books of history.