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KuzoKevin [S] -1 points ago +6 / -7

Why don't we just give up?

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VoteCyborgTrump2040 1 point ago +3 / -2

Oh no, someone brought up legitimate concerns with my plan. I better attack him so I can continue to live in delusion, thinking that my plan will work, instead of understanding that bringing up legitimate concerns is how you find solutions to the problems presented.

Fucking doomers in here ruining my delusions. Just let me pretend that these people who rig the elections will let me vote them out! It makes me feel good.

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DaveMastor 0 points ago +4 / -4

But that's just it. Some people are saying "Yes, we need to go out and fight in every way we can" - and every single time they get attacked by idiots effectively saying "No they've already won".

KuzoKevin doesn't need to defend "his" plan, because it's the only plan. People like You and Thiswillbeintheexam offer nothing. No counter strategy, no viable alternative. You only complain "Your method won't work" or at best you offer a solution that is completely and utterly vapid like "We need to do something different than just voting" - while not even offering a sniff of a fart of an actual alternative.

So let me ask you directly, if we cannot win, make progress, or even stall by targeting the lowest levels of the grassroots such as school boards, local, and state governments. What exactly should people be doing?

You, and the people like you have offered nothing. Do you honestly fucking think that a single person on this site thinks that we can just run the elections again and win next time? It's a foregone conclusion that we need to be doing shit like voting reform FIRST. (Need I remind you that most of the stolen states had conservative state legislatures? That means we have political targets to apply pressure to, in order to make changes) - Nobody is saying that elections alone will solve everything, but we're not going to fucking cede those to them either, just because they cheated once.

People who act like you are the crabs that pull the other crabs down when they try to get out of the bucket. You, and the people who act like you are doomers - and you will continue to BE doomers until you offer up a viable alternative to rolling over and spreading your cheeks. We get it, the elections were stolen. We get it, JUST aiming for 2022/2024 like a Rino will only ensure defeat. Literally nobody is suggesting that alone. You are not being "realistic" or "pragmatic" by dragging down the people who are actually trying to do something about the problems we're facing, you're being a faggot.

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Thebillster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well said pede.