Why the fuck are you waiting on the military? It's run by cucks. Just like our police, they're more likely to put you in camps than they are to go against emperor Biden
You can't trust the military, period. The system is designed from the ground up to enforce compliance and put drones with zero individuality at the top. Recent college graduates and high school graduates are favored over all recruits because they have next to no life experience and respond more favorably to indoctrination. Hell, the requirement to be an officer is to just have a bachelors of any kind, and do OTS, then that gives you the authority to lead any enlisted while being as young as 22, which is pretty fucked. There's a list of legal trappings a mile long that give your superiors free reign to fuck you over if you step out of line, and these are not open to any interpretation most of the time. The pay is only just enough to live comfortably, having to rely solely on them for healthcare, education, and housing. Trying to do something about this as a private citizen might result in some legal and financial repercussions, but as an enlisted or officer, it's a one way ticket to having your life ruined forever. So stop thinking the military is going to do something. The system got a hold of it a long time ago.
Former Bernie supporter here. Trust me, if they didn't wake up after watching Bernie get screwed at the Dem caucus in favour of Killary, they are never waking up.
When you supported Bernie, had you known he wasn't living what he preached? For example, owning 3 big houses means you either inherited money OR you're corrupt!
I figured you didn't. It would take a monumental dickwad to vote Bernie KNOWING he was a literal sellout to the corporate interests/dem machine.
I would have been a Bernie supporter 40 years ago as an idealist. Unless of course I would've known he was corrupt to his rotten, slimy innards. We SHOULD be able to count on a free and fair press for the truth. Heaven would sooner admit a Uniparty operative than that!!
Oh hell yeah. At the time I just knew the system was broken and I was looking for a non-establishment alternative. Bernie seemed like one, but after he sold out and supported Killary, I was straight on the Trump train and I haven't looked back since.
I think the battering President Trump took at the collective blood drenched hands of the Uniparty was an enormous wakeup for millions! I know I was beyond shocked and disillusioned at the way formerly respected law enforcement and media organizations whored themselves out to the globalist cabal.
Yeah, that was a big thing for me too. I'd known the media couldn't be trusted for a long, long time, but seeing just how coordinated they were against Trump was shocking even to me. It really woke me up to how everything is a lie, and they only show you want they want you to see.
Dem voters are actually clinically mentally retarded. Conservatives too to a degree since they think republicans are good despite the constant evidence to the contrary and they keep voting/primarying for them.
I think over the last few decades the US population has been so ill-educated that we've literally lost the ability to self-govern.
It takes informed voters to put the right people in office. The media conglomerates have been coopted by the leftists, and now the propaganda has become the reality for all of the average voters. They seek nothing other than what CNN says, and feel they're more educated than most of their friends who NEVER watch any "news". So they brag about the lies they've been told as if it is extra and special information.
THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO THE VOTING IS BLACK PILLED QUESTION:
I'm not too proud to admit that I know I could've done a LOT more to help get Trump elected in the 2020 election. I donated what I could and I would talk to whoever I thought would listen. I posted and shared stuff online, but that was the extent of my involvement. I could've done a LOT more.
Honestly my excuse at the time was being a recent college graduate who was focused on looking for work in the midst of this coof nonsense. Also I live in a very liberal area where rioting was going on so being aggressively open about my support would've literally been physically dangerous. It seemed like all risk no reward proposition so I bitched out and pretty much did nothing. This seems like what a lot of us did. Some blame Q, some blame other stuff for a lack of tangible involvement, but how many of us have taken stock in our own share of dropping the ball?
So that's the answer to how Trump will get re-elected. I will try harder than last time and encourage each and every one of you to do the same. I'm not going to question the motives of people doing the opposite- I'm not a mind reader- but it sounds an awful lot like bitching out and doing nothing like a lot of us did.
Stop with the "We" stuff. Can you honestly say you personally couldn't have done more? I know I can't.
If you're saying that you gave 110% then give yourself a pat on the back (as most seem to be doing). I'm here for a reality check and to be honest about were I was slacking it in 2020 big time.
I could've done more. What effort I put in, I could've made earlier when it might've made more of a difference. I could've given more money. I could've given my time to the campaign itself. I could've gone to work for the campaign as I was even out of work during bulk of the 2020 election cycle.
I didn't do any of these things and it doesn't do anyone any good to dance around these obvious mistakes of mine. Certainly there is PLENTY of blame to go around if that's what you're into. In fact I suspect it will be an almost endless list leading into the midterms and then a new one that starts after those are over. It's not a good strategy because it's a bottomless pit.
The words "should be enough" is one of the classic mating calls of the loser. What should or shouldn't happen is completely irrelevant to what will happen.
We need more poll watchers and volunteers on election day. Thats how we guarantee voter security (after we hound state govt to get rid of dominion in states it is in, and prevent it and similar systems from being adopted in other states).
I would hope that anyone who believes strongly in this stuff would be willing to volunteer for these types of positions in perpetuity, or at the very least until we can verify that things are running smoothly.
Maybe that's a good place to start: a district by district breakdown of where to focus the most attention, energy, etc. If we started within swing states first and worked our way out to the reddest and bluest states this would maximize our effectiveness.
Well, I am not patting myself on the back. I underestimated the depths to which commieRATfuckers would sink to steal the election. As one who gave 110%, I still fell short because I totally thought fraud could not happen in the blatsnt, crude and unabashed manner it did last year.😠
So you were wrong in that assumption. Obviously fraud can and does happen. That doesn't mean we come to the conclusion that fighting back is pointless.
Look at how much hard work and energy people like Scott Pressler put in. I doubt he could have done any more. Look at what Mike Lindell contributed. Same story with so many others. This election was blatantly stolen and we now have an illegitimate government that was installed. No amount of additional time, effort, or money was going to prevent them from stealing it and getting away with the steal.
This statement contradicts itself in a not so subtle way. I agree Scott and Mike have done more than their "fair share" of the work. Do you see them whining? Do you see them saying it's all pointless? No. You see them doing even more and committing even more to this fight in the future. They aren't black pilled and discouraged.
I didn't put forth anywhere near Scott or Mike level effort or sacrifice. I'm not making excuses I'm taking ownership. I didn't do enough, I could've done a lot more to help. There are likely millions more like me and certainly 10's of thousands on this board here in America of voting age at any given time.
Please point out the "not so subtle" contradiction in anything that I wrote. The actions of Scott and Mike after the election are irrelevant in regards to the fact that the 2020 election was stolen and that we have an illegitimate government. In fact, I'm sure they would both agree with me.
If you feel you can do more and make a difference going forward, more power to you. If you get involved at the local level I tend to agree that you can still make a difference there, at least for the time being. My disagreement remains with your claim that you, me, Mike, Scott or anyone else outside of the higher echelons of our government and judicial system could have done anything more to prevent the steal of the election and the installation of an illegitimate government. President Trump himself couldn't prevent it, and no one worked harder and had more power and influence than he did. You couldn't possibly have done more to get President Trump reelected in 2020, because he was reelected in 2020. The results were fraudulent, the courts allowed the fraud to stand, most of the GOP allowed the fraud to stand, the military allowed the fraud to stand, and now here we are with an illegitimate government.
The contradiction is simple. Here are the basic facts:
Scott and Mike put in work both before (and after) the election
None of that effort mattered, according to you
Scott and Mike continue to put in effort and likely will in the future.
You don't agree with yourself if you are applauding Mike and Scott with one side of your mouth while telling others not to put in work (because their work won't matter) with the other. There's nothing actually magical about either Scott Pressler or Mike Lindell believe it or not. They are normal people they are just putting in extraordinary effort. They see the fraud and the BS and they aren't giving up or backing down. Mike Lindell is being sued for $1.5 billion dollars. Most of us were afraid of getting our cars keyed or even less. I say we need more people like this not less.
If we had 5 times as many Mikes and Scotts (which is still only a grand total of 10 people BTW) we either might've won or we at least might be closer to exposing it all.
Seriously, how many Scott Presslers do you think the left has? Tens of thousands is the answer. Hundreds in every major city at least. What about business leaders? Isn't pretty much every leftist businessman a mini Mike Lindell for Democratic Socialism and Progressive Green Deal nonsense? Or at least down with the fake woke posturing? Isn't pretty much every other actor and actress like Kevin Sorbo and Jon Voight? Isn't pretty much every athlete both current and former a mini Lebron James?
Hopefully you see my point. More effort than last time. A LOT more effort.
You don't agree with yourself if you are applauding Mike and Scott with one side of your mouth while telling others not to put in work (because their work won't matter) with the other.
This is a straw man argument, and you still have not pointed out any contradiction in my statements. I never made any statement "telling others not to put in work", in fact, in my last reply I specifically said "more power to you" regarding doing more going forward, and even agreed that you can probably make a difference at the local level.
We can agree to disagree here, but let's do so honestly.
If we had 5 times as many Mikes and Scotts (which is still only a grand total of 10 people BTW) we either might've won or we at least might be closer to exposing it all.
What do you base this on? We did win. The election was stolen. The copious evidence of fraud was suppressed and is still being suppressed. Having more people like Mike and Scott would not have changed any of that.
You will get no argument from me regarding the fact that the Left is far more politically organized and has far more activists than their opponents. This has been true for a long time. I deal with this fact daily in my own involvement with local politics.
Ok. I'll take you at your word on what you meant regarding Scott and Mike. It sounded like you were saying that no amount of effort can overcome a rigged election but I guess I was wrong. My apologies, certainly wasn't trying to put words in your mouth.
We did win. The election was stolen.
This is actually our core disagreement. I say we lost and the election was stolen.
By holding on to that symbolic/moral win as you see it your psyche can't seem to circle the square of never receiving the appropriate spoils. Whereas a person in my position can operate from righteousness with his eyes primarily on the future, a person in your position is actually out for revenge or retribution first.
The Democrats said we stole the 2016 election. I don't recall any of them taking any black pills. If anything they immediately got to work mobilizing against Trump only to double down at each and every possible opportunity. We don't have to do what they did but we can glean a pretty obvious lesson about anger and frustration being a tool and a motivator towards action.
This is actually our core disagreement. I say we lost and the election was stolen.
This is just semantics. We won the election as far as legitimate voting, and we won big. Ultimately we lost the vote count due to fraud, and ultimately the country lost by having an illegitimate government installed.
Our disagreement is in your claim that you could have done more to get President Trump reelected in 2020. You imply that others could have as well. I disagree. I say that there isn't a damn thing that either of us, or the average voter, could have done that would have changed the outcome of having an illegitimate government installed. I still invite you to change my mind, but I'm not hopeful that you will.
By holding on to that symbolic/moral win as you see it your psyche can't seem to circle the square of never receiving the appropriate spoils. Whereas a person in my position can operate from righteousness with his eyes primarily on the future, a person in your position is actually out for revenge or retribution first.
This is, again, attempting to create a straw man to argue against based on assumptions that you are making about me with no basis in anything that I have written here. I'm not "holding on to that symbolic/moral win" and you have no insight into my psyche, dude. It's ridiculous to even pretend that you do. You are creating a fictional story in your mind about a "person in my position", but you know nothing about me other than what I've written here, and based on that I have no idea how you came up with me being out for revenge or retribution. C'mon man.
The Democrats said we stole the 2016 election. I don't recall any of them taking any black pills.
Well, I'm sure you know this, but...we didn't steal the 2016 election. They did steal the 2020 election. This is an important distinction.
Short term, (which includes 2024) there is nothing besides trying to be there to document.
Long term you run for office or some type of relevant body and hold key positions that make determinations as to the use of such systems and ballots. That strat still assumes you can get one of those positions legitimately /have the funds to do so. Which brings us back to the black pill.
The only real answer is the military, or the lead pill. Nothing else will right this course.
How does getting involved more solve problems? You get involved, you meet like minded people, you form new organizations or join existing ones that promote what you believe in. Power in numbers and power in structure and organization.
Do something more. Be less passive. I was fairly passive I can admit in hindsight with the 2020 election despite feeling like I was doing my part. The obvious truth is I could've done more. I could've volunteered at my local elections board. I could've canvassed. I could've gone around in my neighborhood and seen if there were any older Trump voters who needed help voting. I could've done my own investigative journalism on mail in voting in my state. I could've done a lot of shit and I didn't do any of it. Chances are you are exactly the same as me or close. No shame in owning up to it and it also doesn't mean that other things aren't also to blame.
Even if you put in a solid amount of work on the Trump campaign, maybe you could've worked smarter and mobilized better. I can only speak for me.
Yes. We try harder and we get more votes next time. We campaign against the opposition so fewer people vote for their person. We also fight against their bogus ballots on signature verification and other methods, which should lower their total as well.
You do realize that two mathematicians (Dr. Shiva and Edward Solomon) have discovered the algorithms that changed votes from Trump to Biden at a rato of up to 18 Trump votes to 1 Biden vote?
Do you know they discovered that this algorithm changed votes county by county for a specific period of time, going in ALPHABETICAL ORDER of the counties? Math doesn't lie. This was a steal in many ways, from ballot stuffing to adjudication to Ruby Freeman suitcases-of-unfolded-ballots -- but the electronic steal was the biggest of all.
Videos: First three minutes of this one explain it in ELI5 format:
How do we combat THIS? We have some of the best minds fighting to get this info out there and no court will take the case. No amount of our votes can stop them if they freeze six swing states again (unprecedented before 2020) and then manufacture votes all night long to make up what they need to get their guy ahead of ours.
President Trump even called it on election night: "We don't want them to find any ballots at 4am" and that is precisely what they did.
Well if the actual steal was just them shutting down the machines and then stuffing the ballots they needed in for the rest there is an obvious answer that would actually work: we hold back a few batches as well to counter their counter. It's risky but it would actually work if this is how they are doing the steal.
Haven't you seen The Sting bro? Once you actually fully understand all the aspects of a con you can quite easily pull a separate con on your fellow con mates by taking advantage of their participation in the original con in the first place. Basically the notion being you can't cheat an honest man.
Well if we actually can pinpoint when and where and how the Democrats are going to cheat next time we can seriously fuck them once and for all.
Uh uh, sorry, without holding the State legislators' feet to the pyre, nothing will be fixed re election integrity. Trump WON the vote.
Biden's corrupt as fuck fellow commierats STOLE THE VOTE.
President Trump, and all of us are the victims of the felonious FUCKERY of 2020 wherein hundreds of demokrat criminals blatantly cheated.🖕. No Trump supporter need beat himself up for allowing evil people to steal 2020, unless we now sit on our hands and don't pester R state legislators to reinstitute free and fair elections!!!!
Nobody is saying to beat yourself up. I'm saying I know I could've done more and I suspect the same is true for you. If that statement is not true for you just disregard it, but you know I'm right in the general sense.
Without redoing everything that led to the ratshits getting away with ballotbox murder, we could not do more! The only fault, I suspect in all of us, was being too complacent in trusting in the voting system integrity. After the Nov 3 debacle, we erred in thinking those morally flacid Republican State Congresscreatures would actually investigate and rectify the criminality of their Demorat "colleagues".
It's nearly impossible to defeat the Uniparty; we would have had to protest violently, and because Trump supporters are lawful, not awful, that wasn't gonna happen. I'm so damn sad and mad, but let's focus on the FOE and not blame ourselves.
Just my opinion.
Sounds like we mostly agree on the strategy going forward. I'm saying let's not be "too complacent" next time. Work harder than last time and you'll get better results.
Oh yeah. Call those Rep STATE legislators every damn day and harass them until they FIX the voter fraud issues in the swing states. Not one should be in doubt as to how evil the Demokrat party is, but we especially must bitchslap those in positions to effect change (state Congress people) into making the system compliant with the rule of law.
Don't forget he said he was going to find a cure for cancer on day one during his first term. Somehow I don't believe him but nobody wants to give the poor guy a chance to try!
Even if every alleged Biden voter voted Trump next time, the Democrats would just set up another historic election where the 150 million Trump voters were outnumbered by the 200 million literally everyone else voters. Then we get to see millions of people coming out saying they didn’t vote and they would be locked up for questioning the results.
Still no answers has to how Biden gets 100,000 vote dumps to Trump’s 3,000 in the middle of the night. Statistically impossible to have these numbers without it fuckery
What does this mean? Hell, we are all sure of how Biden got voted in and it does not need spelling out again. Corrupt swamp dwelling filth run the western world.
A: Admit they voted for what will likely be the most worthless president in 100 years.
B: Deny they voted for this bumbling idiot, but concede that he might not have been elected legitimately
It's a tough choice. Keep the ruse going, but look like total idiots (which is a big deal when you consider yourself enlightened) or save face by admitting no one fucking voted for this dude.
First off Biden is not running a second term, he already committed to only being a 1 term POTUS.
Second off odds of Biden making it 2 years, let a long 4 years is slim and none, and slim just left the building.
IF and thats a big IF, they can weekend at Bernies Biden long enough, the last year of his term will be all about giving Kamala credit for everything. Expect big speeches and media coverage how Kamala was the one secretly doing everything.
Everyone should be worried for the full court press of Kamala Harris in 2024.
Seriously doubt he's going to live long enough to lose an election. Either from just keeling over from age and mental disease or being killed by the CIA or the Clintons while wearing a red hat to declare martial law and take everyone's guns and make all their critics disappear
It doesn't matter. I think he was placed there as a fall guy. He'll sign on a bunch of super unpopular executive orders, and clear the stage for that cunt Kamala. It'll be an attempt by the establishment cronies to tie all the fraud to him, the evil old white man, whereas "dindu nuthin' " Kamala is free of wrongdoing and will "honorably and gracefully and very presidentially" agree to take up the mantle.
It really is like people have a two-week memory span now.
Here's a brief refresher for everyone:
A little over a year ago NWO terrorists launched a global takeover attempt using a fake pandemic.
During, and using, that fake pandemic, the NWO terrorists launched a coup of the United States Presidency and many other offices.
We are currently waiting for the United States military to defend their own fucking country by stopping the coup.
Dont expect the military to fix what the founding fathers intended citizens to solve. The United States is not supposed to have a standing land army.
Now we see why. Switzerland got it right.
You lost me on that last one. Who do you think the top brass is? Are the buck privates supposed to rise up in defiance?
exactly. I was in the military and still work for them, most cucked organization in the entire government
And the left is still fucking America!
Why the fuck are you waiting on the military? It's run by cucks. Just like our police, they're more likely to put you in camps than they are to go against emperor Biden
You can't trust the military, period. The system is designed from the ground up to enforce compliance and put drones with zero individuality at the top. Recent college graduates and high school graduates are favored over all recruits because they have next to no life experience and respond more favorably to indoctrination. Hell, the requirement to be an officer is to just have a bachelors of any kind, and do OTS, then that gives you the authority to lead any enlisted while being as young as 22, which is pretty fucked. There's a list of legal trappings a mile long that give your superiors free reign to fuck you over if you step out of line, and these are not open to any interpretation most of the time. The pay is only just enough to live comfortably, having to rely solely on them for healthcare, education, and housing. Trying to do something about this as a private citizen might result in some legal and financial repercussions, but as an enlisted or officer, it's a one way ticket to having your life ruined forever. So stop thinking the military is going to do something. The system got a hold of it a long time ago.
Democrat voters have had two presidential primaries to figure out that they’re disenfranchised.
How much longer will it take them to realize they’re disenfranchised in the general election as well?
Former Bernie supporter here. Trust me, if they didn't wake up after watching Bernie get screwed at the Dem caucus in favour of Killary, they are never waking up.
When you supported Bernie, had you known he wasn't living what he preached? For example, owning 3 big houses means you either inherited money OR you're corrupt!
Nope, no idea. And this was the sort of thing going round at the time: https://moneymorning.com/2015/09/04/bernie-sanders-net-worth-not-in-the-one-percent/
Funny how after endorsing Killary his net worth skyrocketed! Total freaking sellout.
I figured you didn't. It would take a monumental dickwad to vote Bernie KNOWING he was a literal sellout to the corporate interests/dem machine. I would have been a Bernie supporter 40 years ago as an idealist. Unless of course I would've known he was corrupt to his rotten, slimy innards. We SHOULD be able to count on a free and fair press for the truth. Heaven would sooner admit a Uniparty operative than that!!
Oh hell yeah. At the time I just knew the system was broken and I was looking for a non-establishment alternative. Bernie seemed like one, but after he sold out and supported Killary, I was straight on the Trump train and I haven't looked back since.
I think the battering President Trump took at the collective blood drenched hands of the Uniparty was an enormous wakeup for millions! I know I was beyond shocked and disillusioned at the way formerly respected law enforcement and media organizations whored themselves out to the globalist cabal.
Yeah, that was a big thing for me too. I'd known the media couldn't be trusted for a long, long time, but seeing just how coordinated they were against Trump was shocking even to me. It really woke me up to how everything is a lie, and they only show you want they want you to see.
I make them aware of this fact at every opportunity. I don't think it will take much longer for many of them to figure it out.
Good. We’re all out of time
Dem voters are actually clinically mentally retarded. Conservatives too to a degree since they think republicans are good despite the constant evidence to the contrary and they keep voting/primarying for them.
I think over the last few decades the US population has been so ill-educated that we've literally lost the ability to self-govern.
It takes informed voters to put the right people in office. The media conglomerates have been coopted by the leftists, and now the propaganda has become the reality for all of the average voters. They seek nothing other than what CNN says, and feel they're more educated than most of their friends who NEVER watch any "news". So they brag about the lies they've been told as if it is extra and special information.
Average intelligence is less than we'd all like.
Even Democrats can't vote him out. I like to remind Democrats of this fact regularly, especially Bernie Bros.
We actually are sure how. It was fraud.
THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO THE VOTING IS BLACK PILLED QUESTION:
I'm not too proud to admit that I know I could've done a LOT more to help get Trump elected in the 2020 election. I donated what I could and I would talk to whoever I thought would listen. I posted and shared stuff online, but that was the extent of my involvement. I could've done a LOT more.
Honestly my excuse at the time was being a recent college graduate who was focused on looking for work in the midst of this coof nonsense. Also I live in a very liberal area where rioting was going on so being aggressively open about my support would've literally been physically dangerous. It seemed like all risk no reward proposition so I bitched out and pretty much did nothing. This seems like what a lot of us did. Some blame Q, some blame other stuff for a lack of tangible involvement, but how many of us have taken stock in our own share of dropping the ball?
So that's the answer to how Trump will get re-elected. I will try harder than last time and encourage each and every one of you to do the same. I'm not going to question the motives of people doing the opposite- I'm not a mind reader- but it sounds an awful lot like bitching out and doing nothing like a lot of us did.
We did enough to get enough votes. The problem is fraud not support.
Stop with the "We" stuff. Can you honestly say you personally couldn't have done more? I know I can't.
If you're saying that you gave 110% then give yourself a pat on the back (as most seem to be doing). I'm here for a reality check and to be honest about were I was slacking it in 2020 big time.
I could've done more. What effort I put in, I could've made earlier when it might've made more of a difference. I could've given more money. I could've given my time to the campaign itself. I could've gone to work for the campaign as I was even out of work during bulk of the 2020 election cycle.
I didn't do any of these things and it doesn't do anyone any good to dance around these obvious mistakes of mine. Certainly there is PLENTY of blame to go around if that's what you're into. In fact I suspect it will be an almost endless list leading into the midterms and then a new one that starts after those are over. It's not a good strategy because it's a bottomless pit.
“We” voted. In an honest system, that should be enough.
The words "should be enough" is one of the classic mating calls of the loser. What should or shouldn't happen is completely irrelevant to what will happen.
I’m saying that it clearly wasn’t enough and we need to do more. If your head wasn’t so far up your ass, you’d see I’m agreeing with you, fuckface.
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We need more poll watchers and volunteers on election day. Thats how we guarantee voter security (after we hound state govt to get rid of dominion in states it is in, and prevent it and similar systems from being adopted in other states).
Two very doable tasks for any one of us.
I would hope that anyone who believes strongly in this stuff would be willing to volunteer for these types of positions in perpetuity, or at the very least until we can verify that things are running smoothly.
Maybe that's a good place to start: a district by district breakdown of where to focus the most attention, energy, etc. If we started within swing states first and worked our way out to the reddest and bluest states this would maximize our effectiveness.
Well, I am not patting myself on the back. I underestimated the depths to which commieRATfuckers would sink to steal the election. As one who gave 110%, I still fell short because I totally thought fraud could not happen in the blatsnt, crude and unabashed manner it did last year.😠
So you were wrong in that assumption. Obviously fraud can and does happen. That doesn't mean we come to the conclusion that fighting back is pointless.
Look at how much hard work and energy people like Scott Pressler put in. I doubt he could have done any more. Look at what Mike Lindell contributed. Same story with so many others. This election was blatantly stolen and we now have an illegitimate government that was installed. No amount of additional time, effort, or money was going to prevent them from stealing it and getting away with the steal.
Change my mind.
This statement contradicts itself in a not so subtle way. I agree Scott and Mike have done more than their "fair share" of the work. Do you see them whining? Do you see them saying it's all pointless? No. You see them doing even more and committing even more to this fight in the future. They aren't black pilled and discouraged.
I didn't put forth anywhere near Scott or Mike level effort or sacrifice. I'm not making excuses I'm taking ownership. I didn't do enough, I could've done a lot more to help. There are likely millions more like me and certainly 10's of thousands on this board here in America of voting age at any given time.
Please point out the "not so subtle" contradiction in anything that I wrote. The actions of Scott and Mike after the election are irrelevant in regards to the fact that the 2020 election was stolen and that we have an illegitimate government. In fact, I'm sure they would both agree with me.
If you feel you can do more and make a difference going forward, more power to you. If you get involved at the local level I tend to agree that you can still make a difference there, at least for the time being. My disagreement remains with your claim that you, me, Mike, Scott or anyone else outside of the higher echelons of our government and judicial system could have done anything more to prevent the steal of the election and the installation of an illegitimate government. President Trump himself couldn't prevent it, and no one worked harder and had more power and influence than he did. You couldn't possibly have done more to get President Trump reelected in 2020, because he was reelected in 2020. The results were fraudulent, the courts allowed the fraud to stand, most of the GOP allowed the fraud to stand, the military allowed the fraud to stand, and now here we are with an illegitimate government.
The contradiction is simple. Here are the basic facts:
You don't agree with yourself if you are applauding Mike and Scott with one side of your mouth while telling others not to put in work (because their work won't matter) with the other. There's nothing actually magical about either Scott Pressler or Mike Lindell believe it or not. They are normal people they are just putting in extraordinary effort. They see the fraud and the BS and they aren't giving up or backing down. Mike Lindell is being sued for $1.5 billion dollars. Most of us were afraid of getting our cars keyed or even less. I say we need more people like this not less.
If we had 5 times as many Mikes and Scotts (which is still only a grand total of 10 people BTW) we either might've won or we at least might be closer to exposing it all.
Seriously, how many Scott Presslers do you think the left has? Tens of thousands is the answer. Hundreds in every major city at least. What about business leaders? Isn't pretty much every leftist businessman a mini Mike Lindell for Democratic Socialism and Progressive Green Deal nonsense? Or at least down with the fake woke posturing? Isn't pretty much every other actor and actress like Kevin Sorbo and Jon Voight? Isn't pretty much every athlete both current and former a mini Lebron James?
Hopefully you see my point. More effort than last time. A LOT more effort.
This is a straw man argument, and you still have not pointed out any contradiction in my statements. I never made any statement "telling others not to put in work", in fact, in my last reply I specifically said "more power to you" regarding doing more going forward, and even agreed that you can probably make a difference at the local level.
We can agree to disagree here, but let's do so honestly.
What do you base this on? We did win. The election was stolen. The copious evidence of fraud was suppressed and is still being suppressed. Having more people like Mike and Scott would not have changed any of that.
You will get no argument from me regarding the fact that the Left is far more politically organized and has far more activists than their opponents. This has been true for a long time. I deal with this fact daily in my own involvement with local politics.
Ok. I'll take you at your word on what you meant regarding Scott and Mike. It sounded like you were saying that no amount of effort can overcome a rigged election but I guess I was wrong. My apologies, certainly wasn't trying to put words in your mouth.
This is actually our core disagreement. I say we lost and the election was stolen.
By holding on to that symbolic/moral win as you see it your psyche can't seem to circle the square of never receiving the appropriate spoils. Whereas a person in my position can operate from righteousness with his eyes primarily on the future, a person in your position is actually out for revenge or retribution first.
The Democrats said we stole the 2016 election. I don't recall any of them taking any black pills. If anything they immediately got to work mobilizing against Trump only to double down at each and every possible opportunity. We don't have to do what they did but we can glean a pretty obvious lesson about anger and frustration being a tool and a motivator towards action.
This is just semantics. We won the election as far as legitimate voting, and we won big. Ultimately we lost the vote count due to fraud, and ultimately the country lost by having an illegitimate government installed.
Our disagreement is in your claim that you could have done more to get President Trump reelected in 2020. You imply that others could have as well. I disagree. I say that there isn't a damn thing that either of us, or the average voter, could have done that would have changed the outcome of having an illegitimate government installed. I still invite you to change my mind, but I'm not hopeful that you will.
This is, again, attempting to create a straw man to argue against based on assumptions that you are making about me with no basis in anything that I have written here. I'm not "holding on to that symbolic/moral win" and you have no insight into my psyche, dude. It's ridiculous to even pretend that you do. You are creating a fictional story in your mind about a "person in my position", but you know nothing about me other than what I've written here, and based on that I have no idea how you came up with me being out for revenge or retribution. C'mon man.
Well, I'm sure you know this, but...we didn't steal the 2016 election. They did steal the 2020 election. This is an important distinction.
I like this guy.
Better tactics might have helped, I just don’t know what specifically, but political science professor Gene Sharp wrote about the tactics.
So how does that handle ballot stuffing, courts that refuse to look at evidence, and dominion/smartmatics?
Tldr there's never an answer.
Short term, (which includes 2024) there is nothing besides trying to be there to document.
Long term you run for office or some type of relevant body and hold key positions that make determinations as to the use of such systems and ballots. That strat still assumes you can get one of those positions legitimately /have the funds to do so. Which brings us back to the black pill.
The only real answer is the military, or the lead pill. Nothing else will right this course.
The steal would never have been possible without a a hell of a lot of small potatoes idiots. Think of all the unnamed Ruby Freemans of every state.
They are the enemy you should be fighting. They were the front line soldiers.
Read Gene Sharp. Those were the tactics used against us.
How does getting involved more solve problems? You get involved, you meet like minded people, you form new organizations or join existing ones that promote what you believe in. Power in numbers and power in structure and organization.
Do something more. Be less passive. I was fairly passive I can admit in hindsight with the 2020 election despite feeling like I was doing my part. The obvious truth is I could've done more. I could've volunteered at my local elections board. I could've canvassed. I could've gone around in my neighborhood and seen if there were any older Trump voters who needed help voting. I could've done my own investigative journalism on mail in voting in my state. I could've done a lot of shit and I didn't do any of it. Chances are you are exactly the same as me or close. No shame in owning up to it and it also doesn't mean that other things aren't also to blame.
Even if you put in a solid amount of work on the Trump campaign, maybe you could've worked smarter and mobilized better. I can only speak for me.
Try harder than giving Trump THE MOST VOTES IN HISTORY? Is that really your suggestion?
Yes. We try harder and we get more votes next time. We campaign against the opposition so fewer people vote for their person. We also fight against their bogus ballots on signature verification and other methods, which should lower their total as well.
That's my suggestion. Any questions?
You do realize that two mathematicians (Dr. Shiva and Edward Solomon) have discovered the algorithms that changed votes from Trump to Biden at a rato of up to 18 Trump votes to 1 Biden vote?
Do you know they discovered that this algorithm changed votes county by county for a specific period of time, going in ALPHABETICAL ORDER of the counties? Math doesn't lie. This was a steal in many ways, from ballot stuffing to adjudication to Ruby Freeman suitcases-of-unfolded-ballots -- but the electronic steal was the biggest of all.
Videos: First three minutes of this one explain it in ELI5 format:
https://2020electioncenter.com/watch?id=602702647257aa039f80514d
Dr. Shiva's testimony to Maricopa County:
https://youtu.be/cyK30x-dkgg
How do we combat THIS? We have some of the best minds fighting to get this info out there and no court will take the case. No amount of our votes can stop them if they freeze six swing states again (unprecedented before 2020) and then manufacture votes all night long to make up what they need to get their guy ahead of ours.
President Trump even called it on election night: "We don't want them to find any ballots at 4am" and that is precisely what they did.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/cheaters-president-trump-warns-4am-ballot-drops-hour-later-wisconsin-michigan-drop-300000-ballots-democrats-zero-trump/
Well if the actual steal was just them shutting down the machines and then stuffing the ballots they needed in for the rest there is an obvious answer that would actually work: we hold back a few batches as well to counter their counter. It's risky but it would actually work if this is how they are doing the steal.
Haven't you seen The Sting bro? Once you actually fully understand all the aspects of a con you can quite easily pull a separate con on your fellow con mates by taking advantage of their participation in the original con in the first place. Basically the notion being you can't cheat an honest man.
Well if we actually can pinpoint when and where and how the Democrats are going to cheat next time we can seriously fuck them once and for all.
Uh uh, sorry, without holding the State legislators' feet to the pyre, nothing will be fixed re election integrity. Trump WON the vote. Biden's corrupt as fuck fellow commierats STOLE THE VOTE. President Trump, and all of us are the victims of the felonious FUCKERY of 2020 wherein hundreds of demokrat criminals blatantly cheated.🖕. No Trump supporter need beat himself up for allowing evil people to steal 2020, unless we now sit on our hands and don't pester R state legislators to reinstitute free and fair elections!!!!
Nobody is saying to beat yourself up. I'm saying I know I could've done more and I suspect the same is true for you. If that statement is not true for you just disregard it, but you know I'm right in the general sense.
Without redoing everything that led to the ratshits getting away with ballotbox murder, we could not do more! The only fault, I suspect in all of us, was being too complacent in trusting in the voting system integrity. After the Nov 3 debacle, we erred in thinking those morally flacid Republican State Congresscreatures would actually investigate and rectify the criminality of their Demorat "colleagues". It's nearly impossible to defeat the Uniparty; we would have had to protest violently, and because Trump supporters are lawful, not awful, that wasn't gonna happen. I'm so damn sad and mad, but let's focus on the FOE and not blame ourselves. Just my opinion.
Sounds like we mostly agree on the strategy going forward. I'm saying let's not be "too complacent" next time. Work harder than last time and you'll get better results.
Oh yeah. Call those Rep STATE legislators every damn day and harass them until they FIX the voter fraud issues in the swing states. Not one should be in doubt as to how evil the Demokrat party is, but we especially must bitchslap those in positions to effect change (state Congress people) into making the system compliant with the rule of law.
He sits in that Oval Office though. At the end of the day that’s all that matters. The uniparty installed him
That's our problem with Trudeau. I don't know a single person who likes him, let alone voted for him, yet he's "so popular".
Popular like Castro
Toronto is a shit hole. There’s your answer.
Facts
So...just like the rest of politicians?
Don't forget he said he was going to find a cure for cancer
on day oneduring his first term. Somehow I don't believe him but nobody wants to give the poor guy a chance to try!Big meanies!
/S
Elijah is based. Clown pill life
Even if every alleged Biden voter voted Trump next time, the Democrats would just set up another historic election where the 150 million Trump voters were outnumbered by the 200 million literally everyone else voters. Then we get to see millions of people coming out saying they didn’t vote and they would be locked up for questioning the results.
Still no answers has to how Biden gets 100,000 vote dumps to Trump’s 3,000 in the middle of the night. Statistically impossible to have these numbers without it fuckery
Just like they voted out Obama when he didn't deliver. Oh wait.
The media said so, that's how. Trump went to war against the MSM, but they showed him who's boss.
What does this mean? Hell, we are all sure of how Biden got voted in and it does not need spelling out again. Corrupt swamp dwelling filth run the western world.
Democrats can:
A: Admit they voted for what will likely be the most worthless president in 100 years.
B: Deny they voted for this bumbling idiot, but concede that he might not have been elected legitimately
It's a tough choice. Keep the ruse going, but look like total idiots (which is a big deal when you consider yourself enlightened) or save face by admitting no one fucking voted for this dude.
Everybody knows how Pedo Joe got voted in. You know it. I know it. We all know it!
the question is:
Why is he usurping the position of President?
Nobody voted for Biden
Not if the media keeps telling them its raining while Biden pisses on them.
Will he still be alive in 2024...?
First off Biden is not running a second term, he already committed to only being a 1 term POTUS.
Second off odds of Biden making it 2 years, let a long 4 years is slim and none, and slim just left the building.
IF and thats a big IF, they can weekend at Bernies Biden long enough, the last year of his term will be all about giving Kamala credit for everything. Expect big speeches and media coverage how Kamala was the one secretly doing everything.
Everyone should be worried for the full court press of Kamala Harris in 2024.
LOL voting. Good one.
Seriously doubt he's going to live long enough to lose an election. Either from just keeling over from age and mental disease or being killed by the CIA or the Clintons while wearing a red hat to declare martial law and take everyone's guns and make all their critics disappear
Probably Malcolm X style, happy Black History Month fools
"Vote blue no matter who" - a bunch of liars
French Revolution. American Style. Esoteric assimilation.
Trump is the president. You can’t win a stolen election.
Biden better not piss off Dominion Software and election jogger volunteers in Detroit and Philly.
He didn't get voted it, he was installed.
It doesn't matter. I think he was placed there as a fall guy. He'll sign on a bunch of super unpopular executive orders, and clear the stage for that cunt Kamala. It'll be an attempt by the establishment cronies to tie all the fraud to him, the evil old white man, whereas "dindu nuthin' " Kamala is free of wrongdoing and will "honorably and gracefully and very presidentially" agree to take up the mantle.
He's not gonna make it 4 years.