You don't agree with yourself if you are applauding Mike and Scott with one side of your mouth while telling others not to put in work (because their work won't matter) with the other.
This is a straw man argument, and you still have not pointed out any contradiction in my statements. I never made any statement "telling others not to put in work", in fact, in my last reply I specifically said "more power to you" regarding doing more going forward, and even agreed that you can probably make a difference at the local level.
We can agree to disagree here, but let's do so honestly.
If we had 5 times as many Mikes and Scotts (which is still only a grand total of 10 people BTW) we either might've won or we at least might be closer to exposing it all.
What do you base this on? We did win. The election was stolen. The copious evidence of fraud was suppressed and is still being suppressed. Having more people like Mike and Scott would not have changed any of that.
You will get no argument from me regarding the fact that the Left is far more politically organized and has far more activists than their opponents. This has been true for a long time. I deal with this fact daily in my own involvement with local politics.
Ok. I'll take you at your word on what you meant regarding Scott and Mike. It sounded like you were saying that no amount of effort can overcome a rigged election but I guess I was wrong. My apologies, certainly wasn't trying to put words in your mouth.
We did win. The election was stolen.
This is actually our core disagreement. I say we lost and the election was stolen.
By holding on to that symbolic/moral win as you see it your psyche can't seem to circle the square of never receiving the appropriate spoils. Whereas a person in my position can operate from righteousness with his eyes primarily on the future, a person in your position is actually out for revenge or retribution first.
The Democrats said we stole the 2016 election. I don't recall any of them taking any black pills. If anything they immediately got to work mobilizing against Trump only to double down at each and every possible opportunity. We don't have to do what they did but we can glean a pretty obvious lesson about anger and frustration being a tool and a motivator towards action.
This is actually our core disagreement. I say we lost and the election was stolen.
This is just semantics. We won the election as far as legitimate voting, and we won big. Ultimately we lost the vote count due to fraud, and ultimately the country lost by having an illegitimate government installed.
Our disagreement is in your claim that you could have done more to get President Trump reelected in 2020. You imply that others could have as well. I disagree. I say that there isn't a damn thing that either of us, or the average voter, could have done that would have changed the outcome of having an illegitimate government installed. I still invite you to change my mind, but I'm not hopeful that you will.
By holding on to that symbolic/moral win as you see it your psyche can't seem to circle the square of never receiving the appropriate spoils. Whereas a person in my position can operate from righteousness with his eyes primarily on the future, a person in your position is actually out for revenge or retribution first.
This is, again, attempting to create a straw man to argue against based on assumptions that you are making about me with no basis in anything that I have written here. I'm not "holding on to that symbolic/moral win" and you have no insight into my psyche, dude. It's ridiculous to even pretend that you do. You are creating a fictional story in your mind about a "person in my position", but you know nothing about me other than what I've written here, and based on that I have no idea how you came up with me being out for revenge or retribution. C'mon man.
The Democrats said we stole the 2016 election. I don't recall any of them taking any black pills.
Well, I'm sure you know this, but...we didn't steal the 2016 election. They did steal the 2020 election. This is an important distinction.
This is a straw man argument, and you still have not pointed out any contradiction in my statements. I never made any statement "telling others not to put in work", in fact, in my last reply I specifically said "more power to you" regarding doing more going forward, and even agreed that you can probably make a difference at the local level.
We can agree to disagree here, but let's do so honestly.
What do you base this on? We did win. The election was stolen. The copious evidence of fraud was suppressed and is still being suppressed. Having more people like Mike and Scott would not have changed any of that.
You will get no argument from me regarding the fact that the Left is far more politically organized and has far more activists than their opponents. This has been true for a long time. I deal with this fact daily in my own involvement with local politics.
Ok. I'll take you at your word on what you meant regarding Scott and Mike. It sounded like you were saying that no amount of effort can overcome a rigged election but I guess I was wrong. My apologies, certainly wasn't trying to put words in your mouth.
This is actually our core disagreement. I say we lost and the election was stolen.
By holding on to that symbolic/moral win as you see it your psyche can't seem to circle the square of never receiving the appropriate spoils. Whereas a person in my position can operate from righteousness with his eyes primarily on the future, a person in your position is actually out for revenge or retribution first.
The Democrats said we stole the 2016 election. I don't recall any of them taking any black pills. If anything they immediately got to work mobilizing against Trump only to double down at each and every possible opportunity. We don't have to do what they did but we can glean a pretty obvious lesson about anger and frustration being a tool and a motivator towards action.
This is just semantics. We won the election as far as legitimate voting, and we won big. Ultimately we lost the vote count due to fraud, and ultimately the country lost by having an illegitimate government installed.
Our disagreement is in your claim that you could have done more to get President Trump reelected in 2020. You imply that others could have as well. I disagree. I say that there isn't a damn thing that either of us, or the average voter, could have done that would have changed the outcome of having an illegitimate government installed. I still invite you to change my mind, but I'm not hopeful that you will.
This is, again, attempting to create a straw man to argue against based on assumptions that you are making about me with no basis in anything that I have written here. I'm not "holding on to that symbolic/moral win" and you have no insight into my psyche, dude. It's ridiculous to even pretend that you do. You are creating a fictional story in your mind about a "person in my position", but you know nothing about me other than what I've written here, and based on that I have no idea how you came up with me being out for revenge or retribution. C'mon man.
Well, I'm sure you know this, but...we didn't steal the 2016 election. They did steal the 2020 election. This is an important distinction.
You're completely right I don't have any idea what I was thinking ever doubting you in the first place.