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posted ago by Leroyjenkins7707 ago by Leroyjenkins7707 +23 / -0

Anyone willing to bash the police and military as traitors because they haven't "arrested" the bad actors is a buffoon. If you go that route you will do nothing but alienate yourself and accomplish nothing. Say what you want but the only reason you are able to do your self righteous bantering is because of the military and police. You think it's bad out there with them around. Imagine the chaos if they disappeared.

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Leroyjenkins7707 [S] -2 points ago +2 / -4

Certainly good people defy immoral and unconstitutional orders. There are bad cops and bad military. Just seems to me that people are painting with a broad brush on here just like the left does. That's bullshit if that's what happened to you but that's one instance in Olympia. There are hundreds of thousands of cops in this country. Look at a lot of the sheriff's stepping up across the country. Local cops saying they are enforcing mandates but actually doing the opposite.

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MrGone 1 point ago +1 / -0

I say the same thing in the other direction about politicians who brag about being vets. I knew a lot of shitbirds in the Marines. Being a very doesn't get you a pass.

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NullifyAndSecede 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Whole “Good/Bad Cop” Question Can Be Disposed Of Much More Decisively. We Need Not Enumerate What Porpotion Of Cops Appears To Be Good Or Listen To Someone’s Anecdote About His Uncle Charlie, An Allegedly Good Cop.

We Need Only Consider The Following:

(1) Every Cop Has Agreed As Part Of His Job To Enforce Laws, All Of Them

(2) Many Of The Laws Are Manifestly Unjust, And Some Are Even Cruel & Wicked.

(3) Therefore, Every Cop Has Agreed To Act As An Enforcer Of Laws That Are Manifestly Unjust, Or Even Cruel & Wicked

Thus There Are No Good Cops

― Dr. Robert Higgs

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Leroyjenkins7707 [S] -1 points ago +1 / -2

Every cop has not agreed to as part of his job to enforce laws, all of them. Officer discretion is a thing. And what does "good" mean? I would someone willing to die for complete strangers is a good cop and a good man. Anyone willing to chase murders, rapists and robbers through dark alleys is a good cop and a good man. Don't let the actions of a few dictate your opinion of the many. Are all pastors, ministers and priests evil and bad because of the actions of some bad ones?

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NullifyAndSecede 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are all pastors, ministers and priests evil and bad because of the actions of some bad ones?

No, because the church is not fundamentally based on using violence to coerce behavior.

The police are literally funded by the theft that they enforce.

Sure some cops as individuals are better than others, but the institution itself is fundamentally responsible for and conducive to the evils of government.

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Leroyjenkins7707 [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

In some ways yes. It's as if they are doing the bidding of those in their ivory towers and keeping the poor and weak down. It could seem this way. But the issue is much more complicated than that. Cops arrest a murderer and he's back on the streets in a day. Who's fault? Judges, prosecutors, defense attorneys. The system is broken without a doubt. But it does not start or end with the police. It's beyond that. You see a bad guy doing a bad thing, what do you do? Call 911 normally. Someone's breaking into your home what do you do? Call 911 normally. Obv defend yourself but most people call 911. Most people can't defend themselves. We can't "disown" the police. If we do the fight is even more dire and hopeless than I imagined.