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Olds77 36 points ago +56 / -20

Good luck. The rules are rigged to favor two parties and forming a third would only cost you more elections while a third party got pushed to the sidelines over 2-6 years. I would prefer to keep my guns and so much other shit the Democrats would run wild with while safe red seats went unprimaried and instead were lost to Democrats in a 3 way general election.

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Drooperdoo 7 points ago +9 / -2

You're 100% right! A third party could never work. Which is why we still have the Whig party.

Wait! What?

The Republican Party WAS a third party?

But . . . but . . . YOU said that third parties don't work. (We're still Federalists and Whigs, right?)

Third parties never win, correct?

No! You're right: We should just maintain the corruption we have now and never change. Which is why I'm glad we never had an American Revolution, and resigned ourselves to working within the British Court system. It's 2021. Have the courts in London given us our freedom yet?

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Olds77 -14 points ago +4 / -18

The Republican party only won, because about half the country seceded.

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Drooperdoo 2 points ago +4 / -2

At the time, the Republican Party was not conservative. They called them "radical Republicans". They race-baited like modern Democrats. John Brown, the mentally ill white man who told blacks to rise up and kill Whitey, was a "Radical Republican". His son also said that he was a Communist.

Horace Greeley, the famous newspaper editor, was one of the founders of the Republican Party. He hliterally hired Karl Marx and had him writing for his newspaper for 11 years!

That early iteration of the Republican Party was shockingly similar to what we call Social Justice Warriors today.

After the Civil War, they wanted whites in the South to suffer. John F. Kennedy writes about this in "Profiles in Courage". The moderates wanted a general amnesty after the war, and to return to being brothers. While the "Radical Republicans" openly called for the South to "suffer". This was a reference to the police force collapsing after the war. All the old constables went into the war and were either killed or forbidden to return to the police force when they got back home. As a result of having no police, crime exploded. Black rage killings became an almost constant occurrence, where African-Americans would break into a house and murder an entire white family. (Black scholar W.E.B. DuBois openly writes about the explosion of black crime during the Reconstruction period.) When the people begged for the government to send help, the Radical Republicans said, "Blacks are killing you? Good! You deserve it!" Because of the abuses, the Ku Klux Klan rose up to act as a vigilante group to protect white families. (The KKK would never have happened but for the Radical Republicans PURPOSELY creating policies to "make the white population suffer.)

It's shocking when you go back and read about the time-period, how similar this early Republican Party was to the modern Democrats. Even to the extent of placing blacks in power as stalking horses and using them to flip elections. They barred whites from voting, disenfranchising them. (I learned this from Bernard Baruch's autobiography. We're never taught this stuff in school.) White males who participated in the Confederacy were barred from voting. This was 90% of the electorate. With whites out of the way, the Radical Republicans used illiterate ex-slaves as stalking horses to flip elections. Just very, VERY ugly stuff.