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posted ago by Frustrated123 ago by Frustrated123 +23 / -0

What I don't get is even if you don't believe in climate change everyone on earth should be a strong supporter of renewable energy. The amount of fossil fuel on earth is limited. What happens when we run out. Humanity will have to shift to renewable sources of energy eventually. The faster we make the pivot the better. I'm a massive fan of President Trump but I wish he would change his mind on climate change and renewable energy.

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Frustrated123 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, that's true. Higher ppm is good for plants. We arn't plants though. The main issue is the extreme weather events and potential ice age that climate change is inducing. I don't understand why everyone on here keeps brining up plants lol.

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atomchurch 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you believe that Kerry guy, that the earth is heating up, and then "oops it isn't now" and now you believe there is going to be an ice age, because uhhhh "science changed" you are a moron.

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Frustrated123 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not going to argue since (I'm not trying to be offensive) you clearly have not read the literature and don't have an open mind. Warming and cooling are not mutually exclusive. For example, carbon allows photons to pass through it easily but absorbs heat. That's where the greenhouse effect comes from. The Issue is the greenhouse effect is causing the ocean conveyor belt to slow down which is responsible for spreading the heat from the equator to the rest of the world. 85% of the sun's heat is directed at the equator because a) it is closer to the sun and b) the sun's rays are normal to the equator. So if the ocean conveyor belt stops that will actually cause the earth to cool everywhere that is not the equator. So essentially climate change can cause global warming and cooling. The science has not changed. My point is I just don't get why people are so reluctant to believe in climate change?

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atomchurch 1 point ago +1 / -0

I believe in climate change. (It has clearly happened drastically since Earth was, well Earth.) I do not believe that we are at a tipping point because of mans co2 output. Especially since I exhale the stuff the Gov't is trying to convince you needs to be taxed with dollars, just so you can feel good about yourself. We are clearly reading different scientists models on "climate change." I don't watch the news though, so I am not sure who is guiding your learning. I have read strong evidence that higher temp earth would bring more rain to the dryer regions. We can argue all day on the internet about it, but you don't have an open mind about this at all, just "believe" what you are told. I don't understand why people are like, I am not a scientist.. But I believe these ones and not these ones,.. Because it is popular. Personally I will decide for myself what to believe.