I'm one of those third Party pushers. There's no point if Trump won't support one. I go where the evidence leads me to go and after watching Trump's convincing speech today, the evidence says we have no other viable choice going forward except to take over the GOP. That's the plan for better or for worse. I back it.
The Patriot Party situation has allowed Trump to show what control he has over the GOP, very effectively I might add. As he has demonstrated, if the GOP tries to play games, Trump has the ability to form a party.
This leaves Trump in complete control of the GOP. By sticking around "HE" can control who is in the GOP through his endorsements.
Trump is starting his own fundraising.
Any money held within the GOP, as a controlled opposition Party, is still under his control by staying with the GOP.
The only thing Trump said was "HE" was not starting a new party.
Trump is an excellent tactician and this Play is the best of both worlds.
I wouldn't berate or discount a Patriot Party in the future. One that is formed by the People, not him. Trump has stated many times his intention was to return power to the people.
Gonna screen shot thos and remind you in 4 years of how dumb you are that it took only a few short months for you to forget about DOMINION and how despite the most popular President of all time with and extra 12m votes, still allowed the left to just steal the 2020 election, and without actually doing shit about it, you tards thought 2024 was somehow gonna be different
Convince me of how creating a third party will change all of what you have just mentioned?
I have not forgotten one bit about Dominion, mail-in ballot fraud, no signature requirement, false addresses, ballot harvesting, poll watcher suppresion, etc.. Which is why I'm in favor of primarying every corrupt RINO and replacing them with MAGA conservatives and nationalists. Completely remake the party from the inside out.
If you can convince me using strategy, facts, and statistics, I will fight from here on out to convince people to demand the same.
We don't have a parliamentary system. It is winner take all. Not seats awarded by percentage of votes cast for each party.
Easy. 70% of GOP + 16% of Dems + even 40% of indys = 50%+.
Do the math.
Plus the energy is historic so don’t compare.
Plus merge with Constitution Party who has already qualified in a number of states and already has campaign PAC in place.
But our President will always have my Indy vote. Just not gonna have my name in a party of thousands of backstabbers in power positions full of cowardice and corruption, who could have stopped the fraud, who can’t even remove Cheney from leadership, whose Senate leader talks of criminality, who is even today “neutral” for 2024. Fuck the gop. President Trump forever!!
Lol im low IQ because I'm spouting off the fact they just blatantly stole the election... And yet you want to go right in and vote for those same fuckers again
Pretty sure smoothbrain, double digit IQ geniuses like yourself think that your vote will count next time (despite Dems moving to "Fortify" all future elections)
The Patriot Party situation has allowed Trump to show what control he has over the GOP, very effectively I might add. As he has demonstrated, if the GOP tries to play games, Trump has the ability to form a party.
This leaves Trump in complete control of the GOP. By sticking around "HE" can control who is in the GOP through his endorsements.
Trump is starting his own fundraising.
Any money held within the GOP, as a controlled opposition Party, is still under his control by staying with the GOP.
The only thing Trump said was "HE" was not starting a new party.
Trump is an excellent tactician and this Play is the best of both worlds.
I'm betting there will be a Patriot Party in the future. One that is formed by the People, not him. Trump has stated many times his intention was to return power to the people.
Trump is the top candidate. They don't have anyone to put money behind that isn't endorsed by Trump. If Trump controls the representatives, he controls the message and effectively where the money is spent.
If Trump had left the GOP, any billionaire could have slipped in with another Candidate to back. Soros, Zuckerberg, Dorsey as examples. Those types won't donate while Trump is there and those types are handicapped in trying to retake the GOP as controlled opposition.
Like Obama and the Clintons, Trump is now fundraising outside of the GOP. He is making the GOP completely dependent on him.
Pre-speech, some GOP were trying to take Trumps Platform and run with it, as their own. Trump eliminated that by basically saying without his endorsement the representatives are dead to the main voting base.
Trump is using his own Trump Curse to hogtie the GOP. He has them by the balls.
I hear you, I just don't see how you can possibly be correct as far as you're taking it. 0 money went to legal expenses to fight the election fraud.
How does DJT suddenly "control the money," when he couldn't get a dime at THE most important time in US history?
As long as Ronald McDonald is head, and Liz Cheney is involved in the RNC, it's a no-go zone. There's got to be a separate organization and structure to keep them from controlling the money, even if there isn't a separate party.
What you're saying may be an improvement at best, but not a solution. Look at how they have squandered money, and for what causes. It'd be like going through Sessions, Barr and Durham all over again, but expecting different results this time.
The key is networking. The rallies are the focal point. MSM coverage without his rallies would eventually destroy Trump. The RNC is stuck paying for rallies, Trumps greatest advertising and most powerful tool for organizing.
Trump is continuing to build a actionable framework of support from individual donors and corporate donors.
Those donors are creating their own separate Conservative Economy and Businesses. One that can survive without the current Big Businesses that hold all of the power.
Trumps comments at CPac regarding us ending our support for BigTech Social Media extends out to all Big Business that is against basic Conservative Values.
The issue now is if winred (RNC) still gets the money given to MAGA PAC. Starve them of cash!
☝️ As you said, this needs to happen but at the source, not the spout. The BIG DONORS are the target to starve out.
To deal with Election Fraud you need to attack the Top of the chain, not the middle men or it will keep coming back.
and when your house foundation is destroyed you need to start from the Ground Up.
Things to consider: the GOP completely turned on Trump, let the left lie, steal, cheat & take what they like
And instead of holding the Dems to account, the GOP all took turns stabbkng Trump and 75m supporters in the back
The 2 party system doesn't work when both parties are just a Uni-party, a 3rd Patriotic option would take atleast 80% of the Republican base and probably half the Democrat base (those normies that aren't woke but only vote blue)
Also THEY JUST STOLE THE 2020 ELECTION WITH THE HELP OF THE GOP & RINO's DO YOU THINK THEY WON'T JUST DO IT AGAIN
If you think letting go of the control that trump has over the GOP... by all means, be a douche who leaves your ass open to backstabbing.
This is a win win situation that Trump has lined up.
"THANKS FOR EVEN READING AND REPLYING TO WHAT I SAID AND YOUR CAPS LOCK IS SO PRETTY"
Now fuck off you useless idiot.
Edit: my Caps lock was to emphasize Trumps emphasis of specific wording. He does that a lot for us to take the drift about what he really means. Especially when he repeats it 3 or more times during a Speech.
Also, I support the Patriot Party premise. Timing Matters.
As opposed to the Republican party who lets the left and Democrats just steal an election, blame you for it, kills Patriots, but brands you the Domestic Terrorists
A new party led by Trump, full of MAGA loving, people representing candidates, would easily out strip the Reps by far
I'm one of those third Party pushers. There's no point if Trump won't support one. I go where the evidence leads me to go and after watching Trump's convincing speech today, the evidence says we have no other viable choice going forward except to take over the GOP. That's the plan for better or for worse. I back it.
The issue now is if winred (RNC) still gets the money given to MAGA PAC. Starve them of cash!
How do we win 2024?
We must win our State Legislators, before 2022. They must secure elections. Many want to.
The left is contacting them. They are active and organized. We have to be better. One quality email can be sent to them all over the Country.
Things to consider.
Trump isn't finished draining the GOP swamp.
The Patriot Party situation has allowed Trump to show what control he has over the GOP, very effectively I might add. As he has demonstrated, if the GOP tries to play games, Trump has the ability to form a party.
This leaves Trump in complete control of the GOP. By sticking around "HE" can control who is in the GOP through his endorsements.
Trump is starting his own fundraising.
Any money held within the GOP, as a controlled opposition Party, is still under his control by staying with the GOP.
The only thing Trump said was "HE" was not starting a new party.
Trump is an excellent tactician and this Play is the best of both worlds.
I wouldn't berate or discount a Patriot Party in the future. One that is formed by the People, not him. Trump has stated many times his intention was to return power to the people.
That means we are also fake news
Gonna screen shot thos and remind you in 4 years of how dumb you are that it took only a few short months for you to forget about DOMINION and how despite the most popular President of all time with and extra 12m votes, still allowed the left to just steal the 2020 election, and without actually doing shit about it, you tards thought 2024 was somehow gonna be different
Convince me of how creating a third party will change all of what you have just mentioned?
I have not forgotten one bit about Dominion, mail-in ballot fraud, no signature requirement, false addresses, ballot harvesting, poll watcher suppresion, etc.. Which is why I'm in favor of primarying every corrupt RINO and replacing them with MAGA conservatives and nationalists. Completely remake the party from the inside out.
If you can convince me using strategy, facts, and statistics, I will fight from here on out to convince people to demand the same.
We don't have a parliamentary system. It is winner take all. Not seats awarded by percentage of votes cast for each party.
Easy. 70% of GOP + 16% of Dems + even 40% of indys = 50%+.
Do the math.
Plus the energy is historic so don’t compare.
Plus merge with Constitution Party who has already qualified in a number of states and already has campaign PAC in place.
But our President will always have my Indy vote. Just not gonna have my name in a party of thousands of backstabbers in power positions full of cowardice and corruption, who could have stopped the fraud, who can’t even remove Cheney from leadership, whose Senate leader talks of criminality, who is even today “neutral” for 2024. Fuck the gop. President Trump forever!!
Doomer shill. Low IQ.
Do better.
Lol im low IQ because I'm spouting off the fact they just blatantly stole the election... And yet you want to go right in and vote for those same fuckers again
Pretty sure smoothbrain, double digit IQ geniuses like yourself think that your vote will count next time (despite Dems moving to "Fortify" all future elections)
Dumb fucking retard
You're stupid because you merely create strawmen, instead of actually engaging anyone here. Do you really have 0 to contribute?
All you've managed to contribute is calling people doomers for telling upu the truth
You think in 4 years your vote will count... despite this election not
But im low IQ lol
Ok so you've established not knowing what a strawman is. You probably don't understand what it means to actually contribute, either.
Lol you're an idiot who is trying to create a strawman argument... The irony is hilarious
Things to consider.
Trump isn't finished draining the GOP swamp.
The Patriot Party situation has allowed Trump to show what control he has over the GOP, very effectively I might add. As he has demonstrated, if the GOP tries to play games, Trump has the ability to form a party.
This leaves Trump in complete control of the GOP. By sticking around "HE" can control who is in the GOP through his endorsements.
Trump is starting his own fundraising.
Any money held within the GOP, as a controlled opposition Party, is still under his control by staying with the GOP.
The only thing Trump said was "HE" was not starting a new party.
Trump is an excellent tactician and this Play is the best of both worlds.
I'm betting there will be a Patriot Party in the future. One that is formed by the People, not him. Trump has stated many times his intention was to return power to the people.
How is GOP money controlled by DJT?
Trump is the top candidate. They don't have anyone to put money behind that isn't endorsed by Trump. If Trump controls the representatives, he controls the message and effectively where the money is spent.
If Trump had left the GOP, any billionaire could have slipped in with another Candidate to back. Soros, Zuckerberg, Dorsey as examples. Those types won't donate while Trump is there and those types are handicapped in trying to retake the GOP as controlled opposition.
Like Obama and the Clintons, Trump is now fundraising outside of the GOP. He is making the GOP completely dependent on him.
Pre-speech, some GOP were trying to take Trumps Platform and run with it, as their own. Trump eliminated that by basically saying without his endorsement the representatives are dead to the main voting base.
Trump is using his own Trump Curse to hogtie the GOP. He has them by the balls.
I hear you, I just don't see how you can possibly be correct as far as you're taking it. 0 money went to legal expenses to fight the election fraud.
How does DJT suddenly "control the money," when he couldn't get a dime at THE most important time in US history?
As long as Ronald McDonald is head, and Liz Cheney is involved in the RNC, it's a no-go zone. There's got to be a separate organization and structure to keep them from controlling the money, even if there isn't a separate party.
What you're saying may be an improvement at best, but not a solution. Look at how they have squandered money, and for what causes. It'd be like going through Sessions, Barr and Durham all over again, but expecting different results this time.
Very True.
Take a look at this however.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/save-america-trump-pac-raises-30-million/
The key is networking. The rallies are the focal point. MSM coverage without his rallies would eventually destroy Trump. The RNC is stuck paying for rallies, Trumps greatest advertising and most powerful tool for organizing.
Trump is continuing to build a actionable framework of support from individual donors and corporate donors.
Those donors are creating their own separate Conservative Economy and Businesses. One that can survive without the current Big Businesses that hold all of the power.
Trumps comments at CPac regarding us ending our support for BigTech Social Media extends out to all Big Business that is against basic Conservative Values.
☝️ As you said, this needs to happen but at the source, not the spout. The BIG DONORS are the target to starve out.
To deal with Election Fraud you need to attack the Top of the chain, not the middle men or it will keep coming back.
and when your house foundation is destroyed you need to start from the Ground Up.
Thanks. Still not sure where donation money goes. Making sure RNC gets 0 is paramount.
The RNC is just a hostile Business continuing to undergo a full takeover by Trump.
One does not just give up when they are over 60% of the takeover goal.
PACS are just bank accounts reserved for designated purposes.
Sometimes the cost is worth the outcome.
Maintaining control of the RNC is paramount. The cost IS worth it.
Things to consider: the GOP completely turned on Trump, let the left lie, steal, cheat & take what they like
And instead of holding the Dems to account, the GOP all took turns stabbkng Trump and 75m supporters in the back
The 2 party system doesn't work when both parties are just a Uni-party, a 3rd Patriotic option would take atleast 80% of the Republican base and probably half the Democrat base (those normies that aren't woke but only vote blue)
Also THEY JUST STOLE THE 2020 ELECTION WITH THE HELP OF THE GOP & RINO's DO YOU THINK THEY WON'T JUST DO IT AGAIN
If you think letting go of the control that trump has over the GOP... by all means, be a douche who leaves your ass open to backstabbing.
This is a win win situation that Trump has lined up.
"THANKS FOR EVEN READING AND REPLYING TO WHAT I SAID AND YOUR CAPS LOCK IS SO PRETTY"
Now fuck off you useless idiot.
Edit: my Caps lock was to emphasize Trumps emphasis of specific wording. He does that a lot for us to take the drift about what he really means. Especially when he repeats it 3 or more times during a Speech.
Also, I support the Patriot Party premise. Timing Matters.
you would have an awesome party that would never win an election
As opposed to the Republican party who lets the left and Democrats just steal an election, blame you for it, kills Patriots, but brands you the Domestic Terrorists
A new party led by Trump, full of MAGA loving, people representing candidates, would easily out strip the Reps by far