I think 90% of the problem is that college instilled in many of these people a false sense of intellectually superiority, in addition to a moral imperative to help the lesser folk. Thus they torture without end, but their rules are for the peasants who need their guidance, not actually for themselves.
I wonder what that's like. I tell my daughter that you can be really smart all of your life through high school, then go to college and find out you're dumb. At least, that's what happened to me. I chose aerospace engineering as my major. Being at the bottom of the class intellectually was a good experience, because I had never learned before to admit I don't understand and to ask for help. Of course, I also had instructors who really wanted me to learn.
I have no idea how this works in subjects where there is no right answer and you essentially get a degree based on how well you bullshit about obscenely ludicrous topics.
That's how most politicians are getting re-elected. Make shit up that pits one group against another and bitch, rant, rave about it for 6 months. It works well for them.
Ideally the subjective courses are about logic and reasoning. The subject itself being useful from a pure information standpoint and a ground on which to engage in open debate.
The original goal of the liberal arts was to instill in men a gigantic bullshit detector as well as give such persons useful information about a subject matter. That, and to make them into persuasive individuals that could advocate for their reasoned views.
Graduated with a degree in History from a middle-brow university that you would have never heard of if it weren't for a certain Steve Carell comedy. My educational credentials are completely worthless, and am not even required to bullshit about obscenely ludicrous topics. I guess my advantage over you is that I was pretty clear in the 11th grade that I didn't have the intellectual chops to do anything seriously meaningful (like engineering).
Well the humanities were actually rigorous and elite not that long ago. My grandmother was a classicist and linguist fluent in multiple Romance languages plus Greek and Latin. English grammar has complicated rules and tenses, but they weren't simply b.s. opinion essays. Her sort of education required rare ability and serious, sustained study. It was rare for anyone to have a degree then, just a few percent iirc. Now a degree is still not utterly common, but it's way more prevalent and now a majority of Americans have at least some college exposure.
Degrees used to be something for the wealthy or the really bright. After WW2 the GI Bill led to a rapid expansion in college and while this was good, it was not without issues.
This!! I work in academia (in STEM) but STEM is already pretty bad, can’t even imagine how bad is it in the humanities. But for STEM kids they do have a sense of intellectual superiority. I can attest to this because I used to be one of them. I went to the No.1 public university in the States and I always thought conservatives were rural rednecks who didn’t know better. I’ve come to realize I was wrong all these years after my redpill but many of my friends and colleagues are still trapped in that mentality.
When we’ve come to a point where even our Evangelical churches, which are supposedly the stronghold of Conservatism, have been infiltrated with Leftism, it’s no wonder the rest of the country is infested with Leftism. But we absolutely need to take our culture back! This includes education/sports/entertainment. Without these we are fighting an uphill battle because we will keep battling our kids and their kids. We need to break the indoctrination cycle.
I worked my way up to a high paying job in the corporate world. I was working my way through night school when I started making decent money at 25. I quit going to school and concentrated on getting better at my job. I now make as much money, or more, as my sister who is a lawyer. There can be a conversation going on about any topic, even one that directly relates to my profession and she automatically discounts my input because I never finished school.
automatically discounts my input because I never finished school
Sadly this is pretty common. I am in the same boat, didnt finish college because I figured why the fuck am I paying some old hag to tell me where Vietnam is on a map, how is this going to help me at a job, it wont, its a damn money grab. Such a waste of time and money. I said fuck this dropped out and glad I did. Still get shit to this day about going back to get my degree, and its the same reply from me, why there is no point a degree doesnt prove you are smart or good at your job.
it was always about fake intellectual superiority. most college degrees today are useless.
and yet if you talk to any of these NPCs and mention something that doesn't jive with their cult ideology, they will first try to push you to "educate yourself". and if you break out some big dick slangin of facts and data and science, they either immediately REEE or just nope out.
I think 90% of the problem is that college instilled in many of these people a false sense of intellectually superiority, in addition to a moral imperative to help the lesser folk. Thus they torture without end, but their rules are for the peasants who need their guidance, not actually for themselves.
I wonder what that's like. I tell my daughter that you can be really smart all of your life through high school, then go to college and find out you're dumb. At least, that's what happened to me. I chose aerospace engineering as my major. Being at the bottom of the class intellectually was a good experience, because I had never learned before to admit I don't understand and to ask for help. Of course, I also had instructors who really wanted me to learn.
I have no idea how this works in subjects where there is no right answer and you essentially get a degree based on how well you bullshit about obscenely ludicrous topics.
That's how most politicians are getting re-elected. Make shit up that pits one group against another and bitch, rant, rave about it for 6 months. It works well for them.
You get a social science degree or a humanities degree and work in professional counseling.....
Ya know - live laugh love
Ideally the subjective courses are about logic and reasoning. The subject itself being useful from a pure information standpoint and a ground on which to engage in open debate.
The original goal of the liberal arts was to instill in men a gigantic bullshit detector as well as give such persons useful information about a subject matter. That, and to make them into persuasive individuals that could advocate for their reasoned views.
Graduated with a degree in History from a middle-brow university that you would have never heard of if it weren't for a certain Steve Carell comedy. My educational credentials are completely worthless, and am not even required to bullshit about obscenely ludicrous topics. I guess my advantage over you is that I was pretty clear in the 11th grade that I didn't have the intellectual chops to do anything seriously meaningful (like engineering).
Bullshitting though...that shit pays.
I have never watched Steve Carell.
Bullshitting is a useful skill, I guess. I'm on the autism spectrum, so I suck at it.
Well the humanities were actually rigorous and elite not that long ago. My grandmother was a classicist and linguist fluent in multiple Romance languages plus Greek and Latin. English grammar has complicated rules and tenses, but they weren't simply b.s. opinion essays. Her sort of education required rare ability and serious, sustained study. It was rare for anyone to have a degree then, just a few percent iirc. Now a degree is still not utterly common, but it's way more prevalent and now a majority of Americans have at least some college exposure.
Degrees used to be something for the wealthy or the really bright. After WW2 the GI Bill led to a rapid expansion in college and while this was good, it was not without issues.
This!! I work in academia (in STEM) but STEM is already pretty bad, can’t even imagine how bad is it in the humanities. But for STEM kids they do have a sense of intellectual superiority. I can attest to this because I used to be one of them. I went to the No.1 public university in the States and I always thought conservatives were rural rednecks who didn’t know better. I’ve come to realize I was wrong all these years after my redpill but many of my friends and colleagues are still trapped in that mentality.
When we’ve come to a point where even our Evangelical churches, which are supposedly the stronghold of Conservatism, have been infiltrated with Leftism, it’s no wonder the rest of the country is infested with Leftism. But we absolutely need to take our culture back! This includes education/sports/entertainment. Without these we are fighting an uphill battle because we will keep battling our kids and their kids. We need to break the indoctrination cycle.
Just curious, what was your red pill?
I worked my way up to a high paying job in the corporate world. I was working my way through night school when I started making decent money at 25. I quit going to school and concentrated on getting better at my job. I now make as much money, or more, as my sister who is a lawyer. There can be a conversation going on about any topic, even one that directly relates to my profession and she automatically discounts my input because I never finished school.
Sadly this is pretty common. I am in the same boat, didnt finish college because I figured why the fuck am I paying some old hag to tell me where Vietnam is on a map, how is this going to help me at a job, it wont, its a damn money grab. Such a waste of time and money. I said fuck this dropped out and glad I did. Still get shit to this day about going back to get my degree, and its the same reply from me, why there is no point a degree doesnt prove you are smart or good at your job.
it was always about fake intellectual superiority. most college degrees today are useless.
and yet if you talk to any of these NPCs and mention something that doesn't jive with their cult ideology, they will first try to push you to "educate yourself". and if you break out some big dick slangin of facts and data and science, they either immediately REEE or just nope out.