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Couldn’t be more true (media.patriots.win)
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somethinga9230k 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have previously argued for no government ( see https://patriots.win/p/12hRj4ORRX/x/c/4Dx5uPLB4Fg , https://archive.li/gyDmi ), without any meaningful or sincere alternatives reg. how to defend the nation and country of the USA from external and foreign enemies and threats without a government (nor any meaningful approach to funding a military that way). It is obvious and blatant that you do not believe your own words and quotations at all. Are you seeking to be a controlled opposition pied piper leading people towards wrong identification of the issues and causes as well as possible solutions and approaches to handling, fixing, etc. things, and thereby weakening and neutralizing the opposition? Instead of correctly identifying the issues and causes?

How is no government a solution in any way? And for the much more realistic and meaningful approach of less government, that approach merely decreases and limits some of the negative consequences of government without cleaning up and handling the issues, and is thus not at all sufficient in an of itself (though, depending on the case, less government (but not no government .........) can indeed be very helpful and necessary).

(and the account NullifyAndSecede as per 2nd of March, 2021, 41 days old, has more than 20K post points and 15K comment points... mass-spamming quotations among other things).

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NullifyAndSecede 3 points ago +4 / -1

I do believe in no government, but I'm also willing to compromise.

I think government is a bigger problem and danger in itself than any of the dangers it purports to solve, and that it is a fundamentally immoral institution.

I'm seeking to lead people towards the correct identification of the causes of our ills and appropriate solutions (the reduction if not elimination of government)

At the Federal level at least I think there is a lot of support here for totally eliminating or disassociating from it.

There is not a single abolitionist who would not grab a feasible method, or a gradual gain, if it came his way. The difference is that the abolitionist always holds high the banner of his ultimate goal, never hides his basic principles, and wishes to get to his goal as fast as humanly possible. Hence, while the abolitionist will accept a gradual step in the right direction if that is all that he can achieve, he always accepts it grudgingly, as merely a first step toward a goal which he always keeps blazingly clear. The abolitionist is a "button pusher" who would blister his thumb pushing a button that would abolish the State immediately, if such a button existed. But the abolitionist also knows that alas, such a button does not exist, and that he will take a bit of the loaf if necessary — while always preferring the whole loaf if he can achieve it.

― Murray N. Rothbard

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somethinga9230k 0 points ago +1 / -1

So you continue having no sincerity at all whatsoever, and you do not believe your own claims and arguments at all whatsoever. You lie, evade, downplay, story tell, distract, manipulate, etc. to the extreme, and you know that well. And you here seek among other aspects to avoid having to defend your argument of no government that you do not believe in yourself at all. You really are a controlled opposition pied piper shill. Are you paid to shill?

(and you even come with a quotation that is meant to direct and instill in people on how and what they should think and how they should act instead of encouraging people to seek to figure things out for themselves......................... which fits incredibly well with you seeking to be a controlled opposition pied piper).

Again, since it is still fully relevant (from https://patriots.win/p/12hkTkUVxU/x/c/4Dx6X7guNu9 ):

You have previously argued for no government ( see https://patriots.win/p/12hRj4ORRX/x/c/4Dx5uPLB4Fg , https://archive.li/gyDmi ), without any meaningful or sincere alternatives reg. how to defend the nation and country of the USA from external and foreign enemies and threats without a government (nor any meaningful approach to funding a military that way). It is obvious and blatant that you do not believe your own words and quotations at all.

How is no government a solution in any way? And for the much more realistic and meaningful approach of less government, that approach merely decreases and limits some of the negative consequences of government without cleaning up and handling the issues, and is thus not at all sufficient in an of itself (though, depending on the case, less government (but not no government .........) can indeed be very helpful and necessary).

(and the account NullifyAndSecede as per 2nd of March, 2021, 41 days old, has more than 20K post points and 15K comment points... mass-spamming quotations among other things).

EDIT: Forgot to include this part given that it is incredibly, extremely very much relevant still:

And reg. your shilling, you seem to very much seek to lead people towards wrong identification of the issues and causes as well as possible solutions and approaches to handling, fixing, etc. things, and thereby weakening and neutralizing the opposition. Instead of correctly identifying the issues and causes.

EDIT (again):

And you even succeed in distracting from correct identification of the issues and causes by beginning to write about "government vs. the issues it seeks to solve", when many major, fundamental problems and causes as such have nothing to do with "government pros/cons", which you are fully aware of, shill.

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NullifyAndSecede 3 points ago +3 / -0

You have previously argued for no government ... without any meaningful or sincere alternatives

There is nothing I can say to prove I'm sincere if you don't believe me so I'm not going to bother.

But I am going to point out that if you view government as fundamentally immoral (as I do) then finding an alternative is not something you see as a priority so much as excising that cancer.

To me your perspective is akin to asking who will pick the cotton if we abolish slavery.

The fact that you may presently benefit from the immoral institution of government is not in itself a justification for continuing such an immoral practice.

You have no right to interfere with my life directly or through the institution you refer to as government, and the opposite is also true. I want to leave you alone and I want you to leave me alone.

You're welcome to keep casting aspersions on my motives, but don't be surprised if I don't bother replying.

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry

― Satoshi Nakamoto

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somethinga9230k 0 points ago +1 / -1

You are definitely beyond any doubt a shill. But are you also a deep state "pro-government" leftist seeking to have a monopoly on any kind of government and thus have an easier time achieving your goals including against the people of the USA?

You have already proven yourself to be fully insincere beyond any doubt, and you know that well, shill. And here you continue to lie, evade, downplay, story tell, distract, manipulate, attack strawmen, misdirect, etc. to the extreme, and you know that well. You haven't at any point attempted to argue meaningfully for your claim of no government, and you aren't seeking to define "government" meaningfully either. And "cotton picking" is not at all a life-or-death-for-the-nation issue, while having an effective defense and protection against foreign and external threats 100% is. And it is incredibly immoral and irresponsible to not set up an effective defense and protection against foreign and external threats, and you know that fully well.

Are you seeking to weaken and destroy the USA from the inside out? Instead of cleaning up the government, removing the wretched and evil parts that can't be repaired, reforming it in different ways, and so on and so forth, you propose that the US government should instead be abolished and not be replaced by anything effective such that China and others would have a much easier time invading the USA (or softer/more indirect invasions such as many more millions of illegal invaders when the wall is not maintained or even torn down).

Why do you seek to change focus away from the forces corrupting government to the absolute extreme and instead encourage people to not take back their government and fix it? Why not focus on the forces corrupting the government of the USA? Why not seek to shine a light on them? The deep state, the leftists, etc.?

Instead you spend your time distracting people and help misidentifying causes and issues. Despite many major, fundamental problems and causes as such having nothing to do with "government pros/cons", which you are fully aware of, shill.

And again, given that it is fully relevant:

(and you even come with a quotation in https://patriots.win/p/12hkTkUVxU/x/c/4Dx6XCDKyDo that is meant to direct and instill in people on how and what they should think and how they should act instead of encouraging people to seek to figure things out for themselves......................... which fits incredibly well with you seeking to be a controlled opposition pied piper).

(and the account NullifyAndSecede as per 2nd of March, 2021, 41 days old, has more than 20K post points and 15K comment points... mass-spamming quotations among other things).

You have previously argued for no government ( see https://patriots.win/p/12hRj4ORRX/x/c/4Dx5uPLB4Fg , https://archive.li/gyDmi ), without any meaningful or sincere alternatives reg. how to defend the nation and country of the USA from external and foreign enemies and threats without a government (nor any meaningful approach to funding a military that way). It is obvious and blatant that you do not believe your own words and quotations at all.