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romanhelmet 4 points ago +4 / -0

STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP WITH THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT UNDERLINGS.

PENCE WILL GO DOWN AS THE WORST VP IN HISTORY FOR NOT DOING HIS JOB AS THE PROTECTOR OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE ELECTORAL PROCESS OF WHICH HE WAS THE CARETAKER.

THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME IS MIKE PENCE BECAUSE HE ABANDONDED HIS POST AND RAN.

AND I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH SHIT I GET FOR MY NEXT COMMENT...

TRUMP IS ALSO TO BLAME BECAUSE HE DID NOTHING AND TOTALLY WHIFFED ON HIS LINCOLN MOMENT.

BOTH THESE GUYS FUCKED UP BIG TIME. IT IS UNDER THEIR WATCH WE SAW THE UNRAVELLING OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

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Granny 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's right for the most part. But as far as the unravelling, that had already existed for many years. It mainly CAME TO LIGHT during their watch, for which they get neither blame not credit.

Actually, Trump does get some credit for helping reveal the truth about the extent of government corruption.

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romanhelmet 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks for your reply and I do agree to a point.

Government corruption is not new and I was never blind to it since its been around since before Teddy Roosevelt.

My key point about Trump is that he had all the power at his disposal to stop this from happening. He even boasted about it, prepared an EO in 2018 about it, and yet did nothing with it. He actually abdicated it to Pence.

When it came time for the most powerful person on the planet to act, he didn't and that is worth mentioning and remembering.

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NerBolanski 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump action at the very end should be questioned.I don’t think Trump can effectively wage a war against the deep state.