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Nothing is more infuriating than that "We need to talk about/It's time we talked about" patronizing faggotry these people like to use.
jUsT sTaRtInG a CoNvErSaTiOn
"Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.
Hey look, conversation over.
iT'S coMmONseNse
Yes. Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.
It's time to have a conversation about repealing all gun control laws.
Don’t even debate it
"We need to talk," "my dude," and "as a mom" are key phrases for me to stop listening to whatever it is the retard has to say.
They’re all preludes to something you don’t want to hear.
Correction, something you can predict and don't need to listen to.
As a mom, I totally agree with this, my dude.
I FEEL like this PERSON has legal standing because its in THEIR pUrViEw.
"My dude" makes me want to hunt down the person on the other end, and go Liam Neeson on them.
Same here. It's ALWAYS used in a holier-than-thou, condescending way. Fucking infuriating.
"My dude" = a weak-ass pasty whitey who tries to say something resembling "my nigga"
I've found clown-haired leftist "womyn" use it far more than guys, surprisingly. Some fattie used to follow me around on Reddit trying to troll me and would always hit me with "my dude" and some weird ASCII shrugging emoticon.
Also: unfortunately, sadly
Definite prelude to faggot talk
Anytime someone feels the need to add their imaginary credentials to a statement you know it's going to be bullshit.
"As a source familiar with the way President Trump's doctor thinks..."
I hate when people say that. Don't talk about talking about something jackoff. If you have something to say...fucking say it.
"We ArE rAiSiNg AwArEnEsS"
No, you're regurgitating leftist talking points because you are either not intelligent enough to form your own opinion, or you're too scared to stand behind beliefs of your own.
Blame-shifting has entered the "conversation."
Ironically, even if you repealed the 2nd amendment, the right to bear arms is still protected under the 10th amendment, and even if you repeal the 10th amendment, we still have the right to bear arms, because the right to bear arms is a natural law right, that exists above the constitution, not because of it. In fact, the entire legitimacy of the constitution rests on the declaration of independence, which specifically admits that our inalienable rights that exist above the state.
This is correct.
The Constitution doesn't give you rights, the Constitution protects your God Given Natural Rights.
We don't have Constitutional Rights, and that's why stuff like healthcare will never be a "right".
Health care is another thing they have turned on it's head. I have a right to offer and receive health care in voluntary exchanges. That is the true right to health care, not the right to effectively point a gun at somebody and extort them to finance and control health care.
That's close to how I phrase it:
"You have the right to pursue healthcare. Nobody has the obligation to provide it to you or pay for it."
Now, let's get the Healthcare Lobby to stop writing bills that benefit them and bribing politicians to never address the giant grift, and healthcare would be available at t reasonable cost to all.
Oh, and let's quit calling it "insurance" when it's really just a way of guaranteeing higher prices and profits. It is wealth transfer, not pooling of risks.
My go-to is that "Rights cannot and do not confer an obligation upon others."
You aren't entitled to my labor. To my skills. To my knowledge, education, experience, or resources in any way. To say that you are is for you to state that you are my master and I am your slave.
Healthcare is not, and cannot be, a "right" that other people are entitled to provide you. Sure, you have the right to go out and get whatever healthcare that you want, but you don't have the right to dictate that others serve you simply because you exist.
If "Healthcare" is a "right," and the government must provide it for you, then so too are guns. As soon as the government starts guaranteeing and providing free weapons to all people simply because those people exist and they have the "right" to guns then yes, healthcare will also be a "right."
Until then, it isn't.
Someone has been paying attention in class.
I literally heard that argument last Thursday at my weekly Constitutional class.
I envy you your education.
Thank you. Seems like you're doing pretty well yourself.
I'm self-taught. I went to a top school and rejected their nonsense and didn't even graduate. It has never been an issue in my professional life.
If you'd like to really understand how this fight is won, I suggest brushing up on the true history of our country and the Constitution. This stuff is the solution to un-f*ck the situation.
So I introduce you to someone who has recently become a personal friend, and he knows more about the Constitution than anyone I've ever met. He jokes that he's not a lawyer, which is why he knows so much about the law.
Meet Doublas V Gibbs
http://www.douglasvgibbs.com/video.php
I get to have lunch with him this week to pick his brain and I always use his information in my posts to make me look smarter.
Thanks for reminding me, because "insurance" is another thing that frustrates me about them. Anybody with a days worth of common sense could tell you that if you allowed people to get fire insurance on the day their house is burning down, that nobody would get insurance till they needed it, and the cost would skyrocket because most people wouldn't pay in to spread out the risk ahead of time. Then they act shocked, when this is exactly what happened in the health insurance market.
The comparison I use is that of auto insurance.
I got several speeding tickets as a teenager and got a DUI. My insurance rates were much higher than they are now, when I haven't even had a parking ticket in 20 years, as THEY SHOULD BE!. I was a higher risk.
With socialized healthcare, the higher risk people don't pay more, which is inherently unfair to those who do take care of themselves and eat right.
Higher risk = higher cost is a fundamental concept of actuarial math.
I saw a post that said a guy had cancer, was kicked off his insurance, and wanted the rich to help pay for his healthcare. How would you argue against that?
My thoughts:
Cheap, Fast, & Good. Pick 2. If you have free healthcare in the United States, if it is good, you will have long lines to get it. If it is fast, the quality will go down.
I'd rather have private healthcare so we have innovation that leads to new discoveries and cures.
We need price transparency so people can shop around and different hospitals can compete for our dollars which will drive costs down.
Universal Healthcare offers zero choice. You have to pay whatever the government wants you to pay and get whatever the government wants you to get. How does one plan meet the diverse needs of an entire nation.
Such a plan will hurt the middle class more than the wealthy because the wealthy rarely have payroll taxes. If you try to tax their wealth, they will just move it out of the country.
Anything else?
The left is real good at making things seem real dire as if you are a bloody horrible monster for not giving all wealth to the government!
I saw a post that said a guy had cancer, was kicked off his insurance, and wanted the rich to help pay for his healthcare. How would you argue against that?
My thoughts:
Cheap, Fast, & Good. Pick 2. If you have free healthcare in the United States, if it is good, you will have long lines to get it. If it is fast, the quality will go down.
I'd rather have private healthcare so we have innovation that leads to new discoveries and cures.
We need price transparency so people can shop around and different hospitals can compete for our dollars which will drive costs down.
Universal Healthcare offers zero choice. You have to pay whatever the government wants you to pay and get whatever the government wants you to get. How does one plan meet the diverse needs of an entire nation.
Such a plan will hurt the middle class more than the wealthy because the wealthy rarely have payroll taxes. If you try to tax their wealth, they will just move it out of the country.
Anything else?
The left is real good at making things seem real dire as if you are a bloody horrible monster for not giving all wealth to the government!
Countries like Singapore did a really good job with health care, and even though the government requires you to have health care savings, all the rest of it is privatized. It is cheap (up to 10x less than the USA), it is fast, and it is good.
The biggest problem with health care in the USA is regulatory abuse, that is, rather than use the regulations and licensing to protect people, they are used to limit competition and drive up prices. For example, the bulk commercial import of generics and other pharmaceuticals in the USA is illegal, why the fuck is that? In the USA, medical licenses don't cross state lines, why the hell is that? If you build a medical facility you need a "certificate of need", but to get one requires approval of all the other medical facilities in the region, what the fuck kind of capitalism is that? 90% of the things done by nurses in other countries require a doctor with a 7 year degree in the USA, why the fuck is that? Medicines already widely used in Europe or other countries still require a billion dollar approval process to be used in the USA, why? In many other countries, you can just walk in to a pharmacy, describe your symptoms and get give a wide variety of medicines, like antibiotics. The list goes on and on and on.
Even if you Thanos-snapped all the guns on earth into non-existence, it would not change the God given right to defend yourself, your family, and your property with lethal force where necessary.
Guns simply make it cleaner, faster, and more accessible.
I wish someone would thanos snap all communists straight to hell.
This is the real reason that they hate the guns. Guns make it more clear than anything, that rights reside in the individual and not because of the state.
It isn't even really a "law" thing. Theyre gonna take your guns because they're gonna do something you will shoot them for. It's more like a basic survival thing
That's why they need to convince people to give up their rights willingly and train them to attack others who won't as we've already begun to see with the mask and lockdown bullshit.
But that's he problem, they can't ;) .
Statists: Can we have a rational conversation about my desire to violently coerce your behavior?
Obviously not, because the premise of that question is not rational. The useful idiots don't care about being rational, they only care about getting what they want.
So, why even bother trying to be rational with them? You can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.
Useful idiots bleating about what they want should be answered with no more or less than "I don't want to." It is an undefeatable objection because nobody can force you to want anything.
won't, don't want to, don't like what it says, etc...
They can read.
They just don't comprehend.
Good point. The language is so slanted against us.
How would you respond when someone say "What we should allow people to own" to disrupt the assumption?
"You are assuming government has the right to tell people what to own.
Constitutionally, how do you argue it?
Repeal the NFA!
They don't abide by their man-made laws...why should you?!
PS - "...shall not be infringed."
For some reason our dumb courts have interpreted that to mean "Infringe all you want" Bastards.
The real bitch is that it wasn't even ratified in congress. It's an arbitrary ATFism that they implemented at will. When they get 'The Great Reset' they don't want we should revisit that on the other side of all this garbage.
Yeah, if we get a do over I think the second should become the first and loses the introductory clause which evil idiots purposely misread to mean that the military can have weapons.
I'll be the first in line when you get that going!
God given right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
What's this from?
Snl skit back when they were funny
Chris Farley's ''Van down by the river' SNL skit
Matt Foley
The photo? That's Chris Farley yelling, in an old Saturday Night Live skit.
Alright listen, I didn't come here for abuse.
A classic
Maybe you should spend time finding it for yourself... instead of wasting all your time ROLLING DOOBIES!!!!
in a van? down by the river?
Bros, remember, we are better than the left! We disavow violence! If you're asking why we have guns, IDK either xD
I can provide Bullet points to help you understand.
The willingness of this community to help others and, at the press of a Mag button, keep on helping is truly one of our greatest strengths. You are all to be commended for never losing sight of the target.
"Well since you put it that way" ... Pew pew pew pew pew pew
Except libtards can't have a conversation that doesn't involve them crying and screaming.
Soon we'll hear about how t's time to "re-imagine" it.
The can "re-imagine" anything they want, as long as they leave everything the hell alone and stick to the inside of their own heads where the imagination occurs.
“We need to start a conversation about x.”
=
“Let me preach to you about x, and if you offer a differing opinion I will dismiss it entirely and label you a bigot.”
What good is it going to be for them to read it? They know how to read and understand it just fine. They don't care about it, they want it gone, outta here, disappear, and our weapons destroyed. The Constitution is only as good as the public is to willingly defend it.
The answer is fast flying encased soft metal pieces at 2850 ft/s...
I would love to have an ACTUAL conversation about all the things democrats "want to have a conversation about".
"lets have a conversation about race"
Absolutely, what's the excuse this year for why 6.5% of the population commits ~48% of the murders, including being 10-11 times more likely to murder a White person than vice versa?
"common sense gun control"
How many rifles of all varieties were used in murders last year, according to the FBI?
Ah I miss good ol Chris Farley he was great. My son and I just watched him in Beverly Hills Ninja last week
Left my gun in a van down by the river!
Our forefathers knew the government could be too overbearing, and in times of need and the government cannot be there to protect you, therefore you have a right to bear arms.
Right to bare arms means any weapon. Baseball bat, sledge hammer, knife, gun, tank, cannon and so on.
I'm not a gun person, but I know a 10 year old with a gun has a fighting chance to stop a 300 lbs rapist.
Yes, let us read our rights. The zombie theme was foreshadowing.
"We need to have a conversation" actually means "We call you a nazi child murdering psychopath and use government guns to kick down your door and seize your guns."
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.
Well done sir! I saw some white through his left glass instead of beige but normies won't see it.
They'll never stop coming after our guns because said guns enable us to slaughter them if they really step out of line.
"Conversations" lead to "compromise" and little by little you lose your right
Death penalty for murder...swiftly. End of conversation.
That's Kamala's favorite phrase, "..we need to have a conversation.."
The 2nd amendment is not up for debate.
The and the constitution is not up for interpretation. Period.
Every time someone says this i buy 150 more rounds of ammo...its fun...its like taking a shot everytime the NFL says something about social justice.
You'll have to forgive me as this is totally off topic but I think it bears mentioning that Christina Applegate is just the cutest thing ever.
Reading is racist you bigot!
SNL skit back when they were funny. "I live in a van DOWN BY THE RIVER!"
Fuck you, I'm done talking
My rights are not up for debate.
What good is it going to be for them to read it? They know how to read and understand it just fine. They don't care about it, they want it gone, outta here, disappear, and our weapons destroyed. The Constitution is only as good as the public is to willingly defend it.
Them: coMmOn sEnSe gUn cOntRol Me: wtf do you not understand about “shall not be infringed?!!
We are so fucked if this bill passes
hmm now about your rights hmm peasant, we educated folk will be need you to hmm give them all away
If criminals don't comply with universal background checks, then there's no such thing as universal background checks.
It's almost like they're arrogant. They need to try to be less white.
Common sense gun control is no gun control
The only kind of food socialism is able to provide
We are at the time for reports, ongoing.
Conversation’s are super racist and white supremacy
We must continue to belittle their identities. That is what they cherish most. Their fake little precious 2 faced phony identities.
110% accurate AF....no steppy... hiss hiss.... <3 MAGA2021