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Proud_American 1 point ago +2 / -1

State’s rights is certainly behind the civil war, but so too is what the southern states wanted to keep. Slavery was a main driver of the division, without a doubt.

The bigger issue here is reparations lumps all people together based on race and forces the racism wedge between us. A tiny fraction of people had slaves and the number of slaves was also minuscule, relatively. Forcing all of today’s white people to pay for something they had no hand in is a sure fire way to start another war. Don’t point the finger at me and expect me to roll over.

On the flip side, there have been copious amounts of programs started and money used to lift the black man, but to no avail. They have proven to lack the will and capacity as a race to succeed in a merit based society. Sure, there’s plenty of quality individuals, but they are highly outnumbered by the weak minded, highly violent, criminal mentality that is steeped in their culture. Left to their own devices, they will never rise up. More money won’t make a difference and if we start the precedent of classifying charity as reparations, they will never believe their failures are their own.

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StayhumanMe -2 points ago +1 / -3

...tslavery....to lift the black man all you have to do is get rid of the democrat party.

They are the crafters of oppression of all poor people and use minorities as there mascots.

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Proud_American 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don’t care how perfectly the road is paved, the black man will never be able to compete (As a whole) in a merit based society.

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StayhumanMe -2 points ago +1 / -3

Why?

And.... Only black men? What about black women? Do you mean African American? Jamaican American? What about socio economic background? Is that irrelevant?

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Proud_American 2 points ago +2 / -0

Man is indicative of human.

And, yes, socio-economic background is irrelevant. It’s not a pretty picture, but when you're 40 IQ points, on average, below your cohorts you will be subject to the bottom rung in a competitive, merit based society. This presents a permanent, long term problem for those who want equity over equal opportunity. If you can’t put forth the same value you can’t take out the same reward.

Also, look at majority black nations where whites have zero influence on the governments and cultures. They are not lifting themselves up despite the lack of having the white man as an excuse for their violent nature and destructive ways. There is still slavery in all those nations and not a white man to blame.