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Always has been (media.patriots.win)
posted ago by sebster ago by sebster +1352 / -7
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MeloniaisMelons 38 points ago +48 / -10

I was one foot in the canoe with Qanon but at this point...

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 31 points ago +42 / -11

The meme absolutely nails the issue.

Q was nothing more than a psyop.

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GreekYogurtGod 18 points ago +21 / -3

This is what I cant get past. We know for a fact its someone close to Trump and he dodged Q questions when asked. I don't think it was a psyop, I think it just failed when the military fell through. I just can't understand why Trump keeps saying, "the best is yet to come" when we still have 4 years of Biden.

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PurestEvil 10 points ago +12 / -2

Maybe things failed after the false flag event at the 6th Jan. Maybe the military leadership betrayed him (and the country) as well.

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Donger-Lord2 3 points ago +4 / -1

They did that along time ago. The plan was for the ACB to be the deciding vote in the Texas case. Once that failed and Trump knew SCOTUS was comprised, Pence was the plan, then that failed.

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Toobin247 4 points ago +6 / -2

I think I have some insight into Q. I don’t know if I’m 100% but it seems to make sense. The key is Paul Vallely. He went on media stating Q is real. He also once wrote a paper on using Psyops to convince our allies we are winning and to demoralize the opposition. He also says in the paper there are consequences if we lose the mind war. Black pilling and demoralization if I remember correctly.

Here’s a link and the PDF is available one the site. https://projectspeak.net/from-psyop-to-mindwar-the-psychology-of-victory-by-paul-e-vallely-michael-a-aquino

It would make sense in this light. Q is a psyop, but was meant to boost our side not demoralize. And it failed. That’s why key players on our side referenced it. To keep the steam going.

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

You don’t know anything for a fact. Q was ANONYMOUS.

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arebee 4 points ago +5 / -1

I know for a fact Q is bullshit and Qtards are morons.

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bardeg 3 points ago +4 / -1

Exactly this...for all we know Q could be some 14 year old sitting in his parents basement eating cheetos lol

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RedKingFrog17 3 points ago +10 / -7

Looking more and more like Trump himself was the actual pysop. If Q-tards got played then so did the rest of us Pedes.

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IMMORTAN_TRUMP 0 points ago +2 / -2

Maybe Trump didn't want to call 15% of his voters morons? Ever think of that? No you're right it's much more likely a secret agent is posting on a white nationalist board...

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DoubleEagle 4 points ago +11 / -7

Because he doesn't know, he just knows it's a group of his supporters, who hate pedophiles.

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Tr0mp 4 points ago +13 / -9

Bullshit he knew perfectly well. And he continues to add fuel to the fire by adding q quotes to his speeches, like at the end of his most recent cpac one. He's aware, and involved. The real question is why

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DoubleEagle 1 point ago +2 / -1

I'm not saying he knows or doesn't know, I was merely positing an explanation for why Trump may not disavow Q, even if Q were a psyop.

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Tr0mp 2 points ago +3 / -1

Lol that's like giving a plausible explanation as to why Biden sniffs kids. Trump knew, knows, and continues to contribute to Q's sustained growth. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, there might really be a very slow or failed plan... But POTUS is well aware

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JesusisKing 1 point ago +1 / -0

It failed is my position until trump disavows it’s fucking obvious they’re all on board with the sentiment at the very least.

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DoubleEagle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe... Or his speech writer is?

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MustBeTrump 1 point ago +9 / -8

This realisation made me jump off the train for a while. Trump and people around him actively encouraged the Q shit and then we lost. Hard.

Maybe Trump wanted a break, I didn't see him put up much of a fight to stay in office and according to Q and everyone here there were many things he could have done.

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plaaaa 6 points ago +6 / -0

SCOTUS, FBI, Governors, Candidates everything was r-i-g-g-e-d. Powell & Flynn were deplatformed everywhere soon as Flynn was pardonned. Lin Wood was deplatformed for saying "Fightback". Proud Boys immediately branded terrorists even in Canada without trial. Q banned for upsettig a celeb friend of Obama. It's all rigged. Stop blaming allies.

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DoubleEagle 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yeah... They really were running with it all, yet seem to have had no real plan.

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JesusisKing 1 point ago +2 / -1

The SC was the plan. They failed.

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Toobin247 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Read the paper I linked in my other post by Paul Vallely.

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Tr0mp 1 point ago +2 / -1

So it was a "good psyop" and we are now officially fucked? I can dig that

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Toobin247 0 points ago +2 / -2

That’s my take from it. It was a “good psyop”, it failed, and now we are seeing the fallout.

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sebster [S] -1 points ago +7 / -8

By who? Let me tell you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust

Edit: No, not the russians. "They" just learned from them.

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DoubleEagle 10 points ago +10 / -0

Haha yes, because it were "Russians" who were running the show in the Soviet Union, before the great purge.

I bet the actual group is still around, influencing American society... the ravings of a mad man, I know.

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BrainwashedbyTrump 2 points ago +6 / -4

Operation Trust is an actual psyop with no actual history to it. It sure is funny watching people bash Q and agreeing with MSM on this subject. You agree with over 100 MSM attack articles on Q? Wow. There's your sign. Are you calling General Flynn a liar? Have you actually read many of the post, or are yoi just taking MSMs word for it? How many times can you post a tweet to the exact second of the day as Trump? I'll wait. I consider most anti Q people low information jocks who hasn't done the research and takes MSMs word for it, which is pathetic. But keep on attack the few guys hidden in the dark who are on our side.

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 -2 points ago +1 / -3

Trump had bigger fish to fry, like saving this country from communist democrats. It probably seemed insignificant to him, if he even really knew anything about it. If he knew something about it, He prob assumed we were smart enough to ignore it.

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Tr0mp 3 points ago +5 / -2

Like he assumed we are smart enough not to get vaccines or go to the Capitol on Jan 6? Then why would we listen to anything he says? He's clearly encouraging q as well.

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 0 points ago +5 / -5

Going to the Capitol was smart and he directly asked us to do so. Listening to Q, an unseen and unknowable entity, was not smart and he never asked us to do that. He never encouraged us to listen to Q, as far as I could tell.

And I’m not a conspiracy but who thinks the vaccine is a plot to alter our genes. I just don’t believe I need it. He encourages, but does not order us, to get it and trusts us to make our own decisions.

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Tr0mp 7 points ago +9 / -2

His last words of the cpac speech were "we will cross the delaware", which is one of the most famous q posts. If you listen closely he does it often, and knows what he's doing. He fires them up on purpose.

Why was going to the Capitol smart? Anyone who went is being hunted by the FBI including teens and cripples.

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 6 points ago +7 / -1

Does Q have a copyright on the phrase “cross the Delaware”?

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 3 points ago +4 / -1

And going to the Capitol was the right thing to do. Where we failed was we had no direction or goal in mind. We should have occupied the building and called out there until audits were promised. But we just showed up and milled around and blindly just left when we were asked.

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bardeg 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dude Trump could have talked about taking his grandma out for lunch and the Qtards would have used their "based logic" to somehow spin it to mean he was talking directly to them.

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doodaddy 1 point ago +1 / -0

the news is finally getting around to "qanon." If it is a psy-op to placate patriots, they didn't do a very thorough job of advertising. I barely knew what it was until Nov 2020.

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arebee 0 points ago +2 / -2

Q was obvious bullshit to anyone right from the get go unless you’re a complete fucking retard.

Seriously.. how fucking stupid can you be. It must have been new “recruits” from the left. Embarrassingly dumb.

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Anaconda -1 points ago +2 / -3

Astronauts flat earth meme fits perfectly here

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defroach84 25 points ago +27 / -2

Q anon, be it real or psyop, at least encouraged many a patriot to go down the rabbit hole about deep state and their connections to pedos and child trafficking. The really damning thing for Qanon is that they've never been doxxed. We know CIA, FBI, NSA and other agencies have leadership that bends over for democrats. Doxxing Q would've been a huge blow to the Trump movement prior to the election yet it never happened. Seems very odd considering how leftists doxx Trump supporters and get them fired or get them attacked by crazy Antifa and BLM.

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Isolated_Patriot 9 points ago +10 / -1

The really damning thing for Qanon is that they've never been doxxed.

Hm? Qanon isn't actually a thing. That's part of the media's massive campaign against it.

There is Q, and associated postings, and whoever else might be involved.

And there are Anons. Random accounts of 4chan.

The most prominent "anons" are real crazies with youtube accounts who anyone could dox in 5 minutes. But they are also straight up insane alien sex addict's. The media very clearly wanted people to avoid anything related to Q, so given them an actual voice would have countered that.

By your own logic, the fact the media never gave a face to Qanon is proof that they did not want people to read about it at all.

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defroach84 1 point ago +1 / -0

OK semantically you got me there. I'll rephrase: They've never doxxed Q.

I'll come back and eat crow if anything Q says comes true about Trump being sworn in during the month of March but it seems very doubtful along with many other things Q has stated in the past.

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Isolated_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

They've never doxxed Q.

Well, neither has 4chan. That's considerably more impressive.

Also, there's nothing Q ever said about Trump being sworn in in march. Everything pointed at military intervention via the insurrection act in Jan. All the "Q" predictions to come out since that fell through have been random bullshit because Q hasn't posted a thing since Dec, and only ever posted a handful of things after the election.

The "movement" has gone way beyond anything "Q" ever said at this point.

My personal opinion is that Q and whoever was working with him, are face down in a river somewhere and the whole "plan" was taken out by the Rothschilds. The change in Trump's behavior is because of the number of people who ended up dead and the complete collapse of "the plan."

The anon's problem was in believing any "plan" was guaranteed to work against what everyone knew we were up against.

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defroach84 1 point ago +1 / -0

Appreciate the details. Have also heard other groups discussing how the Q persona may have been taken over by a different group or person. Could explain why the Q predictions are less accurate.

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GreekYogurtGod 2 points ago +2 / -0

If he's on tor with a vpn can they really doxx him though?

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defroach84 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes. Keep in mind TOR is a military made product. See this article.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tor-snowden_n_3610370

The U.S. State Department provides funding to the Tor Project to promote Internet freedom in other countries.

No way they'd fund it unless they had a backdoor. Or you just setup a large number of exit nodes and sniff all the packets coming out that are not encrypted to eavesdrop. But overall TOR is still excellent for a free product!

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IMMORTAN_TRUMP 1 point ago +1 / -0

The FBI runs those out nodes. So yes. And also they don't want that person to be found out because that will spoil the FBI's fun in calling us all domestic terrorist when it's just one of their agents running the qanon account.

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Madinah4 19 points ago +20 / -1

If anything, it got more people researching for themselves and involved in politics.

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DoubleEagle -9 points ago +6 / -15

Interested... in putting together schizophrenic charts in their basement.

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SteelWolf87 17 points ago +25 / -8

But muh tRuSt ThE pLaN 😂

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Darkheartisland 1 point ago +6 / -5

The next few days will shock us all.

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LarryBugman 7 points ago +9 / -2

March 4th isn’t it? Forgive me if the popcorn stays in the cupboard as it did on the 20th.

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bardeg 3 points ago +4 / -1

Yep, March 4th...but don't worry they are already moving the goalposts back again just in case that doesn't happen. So if it doesn't happen March 4th, it will TOTALLY happen sometime around Easter!!!

I mean, they can't be wrong for an 11th time right? Isn't that the saying...11th time is the charm?

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Drewski1138 4 points ago +6 / -2

So when March 4th comes and goes and nothing happens, how shocked will you be on a scale of 1 to 100? Will you disavow Q at that point? How many times do the goalposts have to be moved by these false prophets before you wake up?

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DoubleEagle -2 points ago +5 / -7

99% of you will require hospitalization due to how hard your mind will be blown.

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Drewski1138 7 points ago +8 / -1

[x] Doubt

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DoubleEagle 2 points ago +3 / -1

That's the point.

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SaltyRaider4 3 points ago +3 / -0

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Anaconda -8 points ago +4 / -12

Buffalo hat Q-tard and others on 1/6 are all in with the Q-tardism. There are a lot of them. Laughing at them won't make them disappear

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DoubleEagle 8 points ago +9 / -1

They look and sound like leftists to me.

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Wishdonwasdad 13 points ago +17 / -4

Q means well and they still believe in trump.

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DoubleEagle 8 points ago +13 / -5

They mean well, as they passively wait for something that will never come.

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BrainwashedbyTrump 9 points ago +9 / -0

You think it's easy to take down a massive cabal? I want it more than anything. But the stakes are high. Just because Trump didn't take em all down yet, doesn't mean something isn't happening. We got Weinstein, Mooney. Lauer, Epstien, and Maxwell, along with many more. Q is the only one here talking about Rachel Chandler and a whole bunch of that stuff. Q bashers are low information who haven't actually read any of the post. I'd like to see anyone here post a tweet to the exact second of the day as Trump on multiple occasions.

Moonves, not mooney

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JesusisKing 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yep it’s like just a different deeper perspective on shit that’s unfortunately extremely disturbing it’s still all true.

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RoBatten 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed . . .

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Isolated_Patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

nothing aside from one of us shooting Melania, will change a thing.

You mean turn our entire movement against itself??

WTF is wrong with you? That would be the complete self destruction of MAGA.

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JesusisKing 1 point ago +2 / -1

So crazy to me what do you expect them to do become radicals? They basically did in their social circles, they did more to spread the message on corruption than most.

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DoubleEagle -1 points ago +2 / -3

Yes, do nothing or be a radical are the only options.

The Q crowd mostly looked schizophrenic, connecting Twitter timestamps to post numbers and then anniversary posts, etc, etc... connections, connections, to nothing.

It put a lot of people off and made them suspect the fraud talk was more craziness.

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Johnfox13 1 point ago +3 / -2

Someone else is going to fix it, watch!! Oh yeah, everything is going according to plan

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bardeg 1 point ago +1 / -0

I mean, yes it's quite nice to have more supporters of Trump, but their crazy conspiracy theories give libtards ammo to pile ALL Trump supporters with those crazies and laugh at us.

I have a cousin who is heavily into Q, to the point where he just cannot shut up about it, and some of my family members who are fairly conservative are slowly backing away from Trump for the simple fact that they DO NOT want to be involved in that conspiracy bullshit.

So all in all, yes Q may bring votes and support to Trump, but how many people will it scare away?

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Bucktooth34 11 points ago +12 / -1

How are we going to post this while also posting pics of the "Black Eye Ritual"?

There is some deep fuckery going on.

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Drewski1138 1 point ago +6 / -5

Q being fake does not delegitimize very real evil going on in high places. Did you forget about the Podesta emails? Q has just about succeeded in lumping all the legitimate concerns with the real deep state as “Q conspiracies.”

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IMMORTAN_TRUMP 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly. It's an obfuscation operation as well as a disinformation operation. They paint all the real conspiracies (pedophilia, corruption, epstein island etc etc) as Q anon conspiracies and then discredit qanon and then bam all the real shit is white washed as well.

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cook_does 8 points ago +11 / -3

You sir, you get it. Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones are the same thing. They are pressure release valves, people tune in and see that someone else is equally as angry about X,Y, Z as they are and it has this strange affect on the watcher where they assume since some authority looking person shares their anger, surely something is being done about it.

I think Alex in recent years had realized that he has been cast in this role by accident and is trying to change it by showing up to every event he can.

There are many, many others that are the same. Any celeb that is content with just talking about the issues and isn’t getting involved is some groups Q. Daisy Cousins is Q for single conservative women, Joe Rogan is Q for morally compromised beta men, Bill Burh is Q for Drumph addicted gen Z’ers who have a dozen failed marriages, Mark Dice is Q for early rising Millennials with a speech impediment, Jordan Peterson is Q for atheist men who grew up without a father, etc.

Candace Owens is not a Q, unlike the former, she is getting involved and running for office. The activists are who we should look to, they need our attention, not the pacifier e-celebs

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JesusisKing 0 points ago +1 / -1

True and Q is for 4chan tards who already knew way too much for their own good.

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ChicomUberAlles 0 points ago +1 / -1

Think that Candace Owens would have surfaced in a world without Alex Jones?

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p-brane 6 points ago +8 / -2

If Q is a psyop why didn't President Trump let us know? Is Trump part of the "psyop", then?

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IMMORTAN_TRUMP 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe he didn't want to call a large portion of his voting block morons? IDK...

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joax 6 points ago +7 / -1

This take is as much of a deflection as what you complain about Q followers. If it just “made people lazy”, what ACTIONS did you take from the high road? What did you do differently that the Q people should have followed suit in doing? Or is this just empty complaints? If passivity is the problem, obviously there was something undone.

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thedonaldsomething 5 points ago +5 / -0

And to pretend all trump supporters are insane conspiracy theorists.

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JesusisKing 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because Q is his personal hedge in case of a war IMO that’s what it always seemed like. Trump failed, Q failed, we fight on thats life.

People here want it both ways. Trump disavowing Q and leveling with everyone on how corrupt it is would have been ideal but he didn’t and there must be a reason.

Q and Trump are interlinked and he would have disassociated so quickly he wants to be seen as playboy not Viking patriot

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 -3 points ago +2 / -5

Trump had bigger fish to fry and probably was only barely aware of Q. If he was aware of it, he probably assumed we were smart enough to ignore an obvious distraction.

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AppalachianTactical 3 points ago +3 / -0

Q was a larp based on info in wikileaks emails. Nothing was EVER exposed by early qanon (when it was simple shit and no big predictions) that couldnt be found in the Clinton or Podesta dump.

That hooked people in. Then many of those people didnt want to admit they fell for it. Look at the timeline and initial qposts. Began in the weeks and months following those wikileaks drops and Trumps win.

It was always b.s. and I sincerely dont think there were ever THAT many ardent Q followers.

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Steady3 2 points ago +2 / -0

I get the anger directed towards people who appear to have been lulled into complacency, but I think this friendly fire is very hypocritical. In the words of Obi Wan Kenobi, "Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

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mightiest_m 2 points ago +5 / -3

I feel more groups should aspire to be like "dangerous terrorist group" Q.

Al Quadea: Shall we go and hijack those planes now?

Nah bro "trust the plan". We don't have to do anything. The next few days/years will be shocking.

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JesusisKing 3 points ago +3 / -0

You are insinuating that the Q people should have become violent, half this board wants them to fight the war for them and then accuse them of not doing shit. Fucks sake most are boomers or house moms no one has enough time to study all the posts and all the posts topics and all the players and all the history plus get the culture like fuck

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newPhiDon 2 points ago +3 / -1

where were you six months ago smart guy?

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vSjrGNJbTaOeaBEC 2 points ago +3 / -1

Not long ago, speaking against Q on here was quite the no no. I got berated and ganged up on plenty of times for it.

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plaaaa 2 points ago +2 / -0

They're not lazy. They got banned for exposing pedo celebrities like Chrissie Teigen.

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CaptainRumington 2 points ago +2 / -0

Q might be banking on us getting our thumbs out of our asses.

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Master_Wyatt_Gurp 1 point ago +1 / -0

I never once bought into the Q stuff. Said for years it was a psyop. It's not even hard to figure out, in fact its really obvious.

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Wexit-Delecto 1 point ago +1 / -0

But Q has always said that the only way is the military.

What do you people propose? Try to win elections? Try to get our judges appointed to the SC so we can influence the law? Kek!!

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memeYourDreams 1 point ago +3 / -2

You'd think Trump would denounce Q by now?

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Anaconda -1 points ago +4 / -5

He never embraced them though. That is the sick joke peddled by Q-tards

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memeYourDreams 5 points ago +7 / -2

Flynn did WWG1WGA, they know about Q, yet kept silence. Trump speaks his minds on backstabbers. And why do the CIA FBI NSA not know who Q is still? is it that hard to find 1 LARP when they obvious hate Q so much.

The sick joke is Q targeted demographics.

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BrainwashedbyTrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

The sicker joke is watching thousands of Trump followers agreeing with over 100 MSM news articles with 0 evidence. Imagine that. Even fucking Vice came to the conclusion that Q could definitely be military intelligence. These people are very low information.

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MeanMisterMustardCap 1 point ago +1 / -0

YoU cOuLd HaVe DoNe So MuCh MoRe To HeLp WiTh DrUuUuUmPfFfF!

LOL, okay sure... 🤣😂

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Brendancs0 1 point ago +2 / -1

q is right about a lot, like a turd in the punch bowl

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Bogey -1 points ago +1 / -2

What Q is right about is generally open sourced info that floats around the chans and usual conspiracy sites. Q picked the best stuff and spun up a false narrative.

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Brendancs0 2 points ago +2 / -0

yeah exactly

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swifty123456 1 point ago +5 / -4

fuck them qtards and lintards

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Socialismsuckz 1 point ago +3 / -2

I want what they believe to be true but it is pretty far out there. Do they think Q is a time traveler? I don’t quite get it honestly.

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 3 points ago +6 / -3

I never understood the compulsion by so many people to follow an anonymous source who never offered any proof of anything.

I should go start an account called “R-anon” or something and start spouting ridiculous stuff snd see how many bite.

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BrainwashedbyTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't see anyone else talking about Rachel Chandler...

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JesusisKing 2 points ago +2 / -0

See there is Q and then there are people riding coat tails on Twitter who are actually probably more likely the psyop they fuck tack on crazy shit like that no one on any board ever thinks he’s a time traveler holy fuck. It was always about using US assets for good to fight child trafficking that’s it. No more no less holy shit.

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yudsfpbc 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who wants to fix the government?

At some point you just throw it away and start over.

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crash7863 1 point ago +2 / -1

BUT LYN WOOD SAID!!!!!!

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gbolcer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well the first part is true. Biden isn't going to last another 6 months.

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Muttsbitetoo 1 point ago +3 / -2

Operation trust

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SuckMyAnusTwitter 0 points ago +5 / -5

It’s definitely sad that these q kiddies still believe this fucking garbage.

Nothing but a hindrance.

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SaltyRaider4 0 points ago +1 / -1

Q showed allot more than most can see. Seeing is believing Santana! lol

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Trump4Caesar 0 points ago +1 / -1

why hasn't Trump said so? seems like it would help the q followers if he did

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Bogey -1 points ago +4 / -5

The shame isn't in ever entertaining Q. The shame is in still defending it.