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Oback_Barama 1 point ago +2 / -1

So, your answer to the question "Does that mean that the 13/52 statistic is "racist"? Despite describing reality?" is... "yes" ??? Or is your answer "that's collectivist!" ??

My answer is facts are not racist, they are facts.

When someone calls you a racist, they don't really believe that is true because they expect you to then argue why you are not a racist. They set the battlefield. To engage the enemy when they have set the terrain is a losing position.

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somethinga9230k 2 points ago +3 / -1

But why then would you write (at https://patriots.win/p/12hkTntQjm/x/c/4Dx6XGyXnpS ):

Even refuting the points of the leftist by citing group statistics is submitting to playing their game.

If you write that facts are not racist (which is something at least), does that mean that you consider some facts "collectivist" ?? Or is it somehow "collectivist" to refute someone's point by using relevant facts? Should truth be covered up, lest you "play into the hands of"/"playing the game of" "collectivists" ????

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Oback_Barama 1 point ago +2 / -1

The Communists WANT us to have these arguments.

They want people spouting "black" facts against "white" facts. White individuals are X% more likely to have a degree. Blacks are responsible for X% of crime despite being X% of the population. Women make XX cents for every dollar a man makes. These might all be facts, but the implication is that these individuals make more money, or commit more crime, or have higher education BECAUSE of their race and/or sex. But the truth is there is a myriad factors that go into a person's education level, ability to generate income, or likelihood to commit crime that has nothing to do with race or sex.

The Communists WANT us to be spouting "facts" about different demographics back and forth because it makes people align into one of these groups that can then be pitted against one another.

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somethinga9230k 1 point ago +2 / -1

The Communists WANT us to be spouting "facts" [...]

You write "facts" in double-quotes. Does that mean that you consider 13/52 to be false or misleading? Do you have any sources or arguments reg. that? Or are facts "wrong"/immoral ??? Or "wrong"/immoral to talk and write about???

The Communists WANT us to have these arguments.

You seem extremely intent on preventing others from discussing and investigating how reality is. And last I checked, the leftists, deep state, communists, etc., abused and misused statistics, facts, etc., and did not at all want sincere and open discussion of things. Very similar to what you are blatantly and obviously seeking to do.

Reg. women making XX cents for every dollar a man makes, that is a topic that should be 100% open for discussion, such that light can be shined on it. Instead of you and other communists, leftists, etc. closing the discussion and choosing what each controlled side should be saying and thinking. For that topic specifically, one can come with arguments for and against, such as women often spending less on their careers (due to factors such as pregnancy), which is fully OK (and I think it also depends on the specific career, with some careers having certain genders usually being worth more, such as where physical strength is more important typically favoring men - and some job listings specifically ask for women and not men, and that is for very many situations fully OK (for instance in special care situations with heavily disabled and vulnerable people)). And those groups you describe are not all the same kind of grouping.

Are you a shill?

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Oback_Barama 0 points ago +1 / -1

You seem extremely intent on preventing others from discussing and investigating how reality is.

I am a strong advocate of open discussion and investigation. The implication of the 13/52 fact is that this fact is true BECAUSE of a single cause and that cause is race. I do not agree with that.

As you very correctly pointed out there are a ton of different reasons why a woman might make XX cents for every dollar a man makes. But the XX cents per dollar fact is often cited as proof that women makes less because of a single cause and that cause is that they are women. Again that is not true.

Are you a shill?

Fuck off. I'll prove I'm not a shill as soon as you prove to me you're not drunk