Yeah, I have absolutely no sympathy for tyrant protectors. As far as I’m concerned this is just a little karma, same as them sleeping on the floor. A certain saving about you get what you fucking deserve comes to mind here.
After you enlist, any stand you make against your superiors will be a life altering decision that will stay with you long after the cause is gone. These guys didn’t sign up to protect an illegitimate presidency.
Our states and governors should be bringing these guys home.
They're not the ones who get to define who is a traitor and who is not, so again, criticizing them is unfair. Except for the ones who voted for Biden. They deserve their fate.
They took the oath long before any of this happened. There wasn't a recruitment poster out there saying "Help Turn DC into a Communist Fortress. Would you like to know more?"
They're literally slave soldiers at this point. If they dare to question anything about what they're being made to do they will have their lives ruined and possibly face jail time. None of them actually signed up under Biden (though any that reenlisted while there deserve what they're getting, but that can't be many of them). I'd imagine most are not going to re-up after this experience.
Most are lost little children who have no idea what they're doing. They just see the benefits and are attracted like moths to the flame. And that makes them good soldiers. It's better if most of them never question what they're being used for. It'd be harder to use them if they did. And they're certainly not going to understand or accept the reality I just told you, so it's better to keep them in the dark, throw a bit of money and some medals at them, and tell them they did good so they can die happy, either on some far away battlefield or at home when they're old
That's some pretty cynical and ....I don't even have the words for it. Pretty fucked up though.
I wish more people had served so I did not have to read tripe like this.
Most troops are good people and trying to better themselves. Some even join out of gasP patriotism. Regardless of motivation THEY signed on the dotted line when so very many of you clearly have not.
This does not mean we are better than you. Nor does it mean we want our asses kissed (although a small percentage of "those" type exists). We just want to be left alone and not shit on. Not much to ask for.
I am a vet and after was a firefighter/medic. What have you guys done to help your community or anyone?
The sheer amount of anger and blatantly wrong information posted here is insulting to troops from Valley Forge to current day. Be angry at the upper brass for sure. E-3 Lopez has zero control over anything.
They enlist to get money
I laughed so hard at this. thank you for that. This is what I am talking about. Too many people do not understand how things work.
Killing people in the Middle East who pose zero threat to your home = heroes.
There's something you fundamentally don't get about the US, the source of our power, and the world as a whole. And that's OK, because most people don't get it. It's not taught to people because it's not some highfalutin ideal that we like to pretend we have. It's raw control. The global economy? That's the US economy. We literally own the whole world economy. Everywhere business is done, it's done according to our rules on the playing field we created and that we manage. So why is a conflict in the Middle East an issue we should take an interest in? Because it threatens either the system directly or the stability of the system. That can't be allowed because instability breeds more instability. Like a crack in a window: you have to address the issue immediately so that it doesn't spread and shatter. How do we do that? With old fashioned control. Reset the local playing field, set it in the right direction, and we're back to normal. That is what drives the US economy.
Being part of the political theatre of people who pose an existential threat to your home = blameless grunts.
Sure, but knowing now what I just told you, would you sacrifice our nation's power just to avoid taking part in conflict or looking bad? Would the trade off be worth it? Because nature abhors a power vacuum, and when you're out of power you naturally have no say over who comes INTO power or what they do with it. Could be China. Do you want that? Or is the game we've been playing preferable, albeit unsavory?
They are not heroes
Never said they were. Most are lost little children who have no idea what they're doing. They just see the benefits and are attracted like moths to the flame. And that makes them good soldiers. It's better if most of them never question what they're being used for. It'd be harder to use them if they did. And they're certainly not going to understand or accept the reality I just told you, so it's better to keep them in the dark, throw a bit of money and some medals at them, and tell them they did good so they can die happy, either on some far away battlefield or at home when they're old. It's basically like in The Matrix, where Neo has a choice. But in this case, the red pill doesn't wake you up in some real world. You're already in it and the red pill is just that you go on seeing the real world as it really is. The blue pill simply puts you back to sleep. Most people need the blue pill (as it is in this context) because the red pill would kill them.
They are people who enlisted to potentially go kill third worlders in exchange for financial help with college and veterans benefits. They kill for money.
You've got it backwards. They enlist to get money and they potentially have to kill in order to stay alive long enough to use it (or get awarded even more money).
Pretty sure if biden and kamel toe were shot, shit would not function for very long. Its not like were expecting ragtag to take down everyond and everything. Just what matters.
The haters in here are living in a fantasy. Life sucks for all of us, but how much are any of us really giving right now? I imagine a buttload of these guys either enlisted or reenlisted under Trump and were pretty fuckin stoked to do it. We cheered that a few months ago. Now they're screwed and trapped, and many are probably looking for the most efficient way to exit, especially after opening those boxes prepared by likely TDS outfits. Some got lucky in the opening salvo and were "vetted" out - ironically these were the ones who who supposedly could have caused trouble and we can presume they're working through a discharge process right now. The others stuck in that hellhole? They'll get hosed with desertion, become felons and worse if they choose to defy their orders. Yeah sure, you might cheer that decision and call them billy bob badasses. But they'll be fucked for life for it, even if we manage to straighten this mess up.
And you'll be sitting comfy at home with options. Go do something productive to MAGA and let's keep our eyes up.
One thing I like to do is to look at the haters' profile, check the join date, and see if they could be a shill or a bad actor. A good indicator would be the handshake, but if there is no handshake, a good rule of thumb would be joined anywhere from November 2020 onward, which is about 120 days now.
Difference between me at home and then is I didn’t swear an oath to protect this country, up to, including, and beyond stopping America’s domestic enemies from installing an illegitimate president. I’ll do a hell of a lot more in the coming years than those oath breakers as they suck the dick of the government just for a paycheck and humiliation. Fuck them. They had their shot of proving they were worthy of respect and they fucking blew it for the whole country
Big words. Your username checks out and I get it, but you're asking for millions of martyrs when we're not there yet. Everyone's got their line and I hear many saying it's been crossed, but to what effect? There may come a time when there's consensus on how to judge them but for now they're essentially plopped down like puppets for effect. Yes, that's bad because of the implications, but let's just stay alert and keep this clean for as long as possible.
No one should be made sick from metal shavings or undercooked food. However, those soldiers have no balls to protect Biden if they're only excuse is 'following orders'.
I got an honorable discharge, but I have heard it is possible for people to get an "other than honorable discharge" upgraded to an honorable discharge after a period of time. Not sure exactly how that works.
If you get a dishonorable or other than honorable discharge, it might make it more difficult to get government jobs, but I think most non-government jobs wouldn't give a shit about your discharge status as long as you didn't do something crazy. Refusing to take part in a political photo op in DC would likely help you with conservative employers anyways.
Chairman Jao Xiden has all the characteristics of a full-blown dictator. He isn't fooling anyone. Even the locusts that are the left are pissed off at Kids In Cages. He simply can't win.
There are some shills on here whose sole purpose is to lower morale. One person with 5 accounts that have been carefully cultivated can look like a movement. The only useful thing that libs learn in college is how to use psychology to screw with people.
You literally cannot stand up for anything while in uniform. MP's will take you away and you will have a military trial for violating the UCMJ. And a dishonorable discharge does a lot more than just kick someone out of the military.
The military requires the Supreme Court and/or Congress to rule against something or make a law, if they are to go against orders.
K tell that to the military that purges all opposition and treats solders horribly to a currupt supreme court law and order went out the window a long time ago.
They have no real choice. If they refuse they will be handed an Other Than Honorable Discharge AT BEST, which means all of their benefits, such as VA benifits, schooling, etc are permanently removed and they are ineligible for government assistance, and that's the AT BEST ending. You don't want to know the "at worst" punishments.
You don't get to pick which commands you follow. Your life is no longer your own when you join the military, and most do it out of love for country, so fuck ANYONE who disparages these troops as traitors. I would fucking ruin you in a heart beat if I ever saw any of you fucks spewing your garbage in person. You'd be eating from a straw the rest of your life.
This is correct. People who are posting shit like "you get what you deserve" or "this is just karma" have likely never served and have no idea of the massive sacrifice they are casually demanding of these 18-20 year old kids.
Good on the folks who serve. It's bullshit we have such butthurt types that whine about these guys enlisting. I honestly think they might be shills with how much drama and hate they try whipping up.
I'm starting to really believe in the one guy multiple accounts theory. Upvoting xirself and commenting on their own posts to reinforce the illusion they are creating.
I think so too, but that's just a shill and his bots that follow me around this site for days. I think there's a real push to get us to give up on police and military and while neither is perfect, I believe in and respect them for the most part.
Your life is no longer your own when you join the military
That right there is enough for me. I would never advise anyone become an order follower. Like the parent comment said though, once they're in, they have to eat metal shavings and like it, desertion is a pretty big deal.
I see your still getting your complimentary downvotes lol.
Nobody was complaining about unlawful orders when they were overseas. Only now that they’re taking place here.
I support the grunts and the NCOs, fuck the rest for the most part.
I understand what some of y’all are saying, but you don’t tell the lineman that they should quit their job because of a policy you don’t like, why would you tell that to a soldier?
Fuck you. You act like they have a fucking choice. Funny how a few months ago you were sucking their dick. As if it's their fucking fault. Grow a fucking pair and stop whining on the internet like a fucking baby.
Yeah, I have absolutely no sympathy for tyrant protectors. As far as I’m concerned this is just a little karma, same as them sleeping on the floor. A certain saving about you get what you fucking deserve comes to mind here.
After you enlist, any stand you make against your superiors will be a life altering decision that will stay with you long after the cause is gone. These guys didn’t sign up to protect an illegitimate presidency.
Our states and governors should be bringing these guys home.
Agree. The governors are to blame for this.
And yet, there they are.
They were sent there by governors. You don't get to voluntarily decline orders.
Blue state governors are as illegitimate as Pedo Joe.
Right now, they're stuck. They can't quit until their term of enlistment is up or the MPs will come and drag them back for a court martial.
But once they have the opportunity to get out, they should. Plenty of us did that after the endless wars in the ME.
Perhaps they should've thought about their stance on treason harder before taking the oath and our money
They're not the ones who get to define who is a traitor and who is not, so again, criticizing them is unfair. Except for the ones who voted for Biden. They deserve their fate.
They took the oath long before any of this happened. There wasn't a recruitment poster out there saying "Help Turn DC into a Communist Fortress. Would you like to know more?"
They're literally slave soldiers at this point. If they dare to question anything about what they're being made to do they will have their lives ruined and possibly face jail time. None of them actually signed up under Biden (though any that reenlisted while there deserve what they're getting, but that can't be many of them). I'd imagine most are not going to re-up after this experience.
That's some pretty cynical and ....I don't even have the words for it. Pretty fucked up though.
I wish more people had served so I did not have to read tripe like this.
Most troops are good people and trying to better themselves. Some even join out of gasP patriotism. Regardless of motivation THEY signed on the dotted line when so very many of you clearly have not.
This does not mean we are better than you. Nor does it mean we want our asses kissed (although a small percentage of "those" type exists). We just want to be left alone and not shit on. Not much to ask for.
I am a vet and after was a firefighter/medic. What have you guys done to help your community or anyone?
The sheer amount of anger and blatantly wrong information posted here is insulting to troops from Valley Forge to current day. Be angry at the upper brass for sure. E-3 Lopez has zero control over anything.
I laughed so hard at this. thank you for that. This is what I am talking about. Too many people do not understand how things work.
Did you know that I'm currently in the military and am speaking from my experience and first-hand observations?
Clearly not a recent one. You have no idea what the Obama years have done to the military. Hell, the Bush years, too.
There's something you fundamentally don't get about the US, the source of our power, and the world as a whole. And that's OK, because most people don't get it. It's not taught to people because it's not some highfalutin ideal that we like to pretend we have. It's raw control. The global economy? That's the US economy. We literally own the whole world economy. Everywhere business is done, it's done according to our rules on the playing field we created and that we manage. So why is a conflict in the Middle East an issue we should take an interest in? Because it threatens either the system directly or the stability of the system. That can't be allowed because instability breeds more instability. Like a crack in a window: you have to address the issue immediately so that it doesn't spread and shatter. How do we do that? With old fashioned control. Reset the local playing field, set it in the right direction, and we're back to normal. That is what drives the US economy.
Sure, but knowing now what I just told you, would you sacrifice our nation's power just to avoid taking part in conflict or looking bad? Would the trade off be worth it? Because nature abhors a power vacuum, and when you're out of power you naturally have no say over who comes INTO power or what they do with it. Could be China. Do you want that? Or is the game we've been playing preferable, albeit unsavory?
Never said they were. Most are lost little children who have no idea what they're doing. They just see the benefits and are attracted like moths to the flame. And that makes them good soldiers. It's better if most of them never question what they're being used for. It'd be harder to use them if they did. And they're certainly not going to understand or accept the reality I just told you, so it's better to keep them in the dark, throw a bit of money and some medals at them, and tell them they did good so they can die happy, either on some far away battlefield or at home when they're old. It's basically like in The Matrix, where Neo has a choice. But in this case, the red pill doesn't wake you up in some real world. You're already in it and the red pill is just that you go on seeing the real world as it really is. The blue pill simply puts you back to sleep. Most people need the blue pill (as it is in this context) because the red pill would kill them.
You've got it backwards. They enlist to get money and they potentially have to kill in order to stay alive long enough to use it (or get awarded even more money).
Wellp none of em have the balls to, ahem, break the chains, metaphorically and command wise. Just simply do as instructed on a certain old document .
It's easy to tell who hasn't served in the military on here.
But muh Call of Duty
Pretty sure if biden and kamel toe were shot, shit would not function for very long. Its not like were expecting ragtag to take down everyond and everything. Just what matters.
Wouldn't Pelosi be next in line for succession?
It's also easy to tell who the blue falcons were. I bet buddy is only half the word for you.
????
No joke.
your anger is misplaced
C'mon mate, it's not like these grunts have any actual power. Their families have to eat.
The haters in here are living in a fantasy. Life sucks for all of us, but how much are any of us really giving right now? I imagine a buttload of these guys either enlisted or reenlisted under Trump and were pretty fuckin stoked to do it. We cheered that a few months ago. Now they're screwed and trapped, and many are probably looking for the most efficient way to exit, especially after opening those boxes prepared by likely TDS outfits. Some got lucky in the opening salvo and were "vetted" out - ironically these were the ones who who supposedly could have caused trouble and we can presume they're working through a discharge process right now. The others stuck in that hellhole? They'll get hosed with desertion, become felons and worse if they choose to defy their orders. Yeah sure, you might cheer that decision and call them billy bob badasses. But they'll be fucked for life for it, even if we manage to straighten this mess up.
And you'll be sitting comfy at home with options. Go do something productive to MAGA and let's keep our eyes up.
One thing I like to do is to look at the haters' profile, check the join date, and see if they could be a shill or a bad actor. A good indicator would be the handshake, but if there is no handshake, a good rule of thumb would be joined anywhere from November 2020 onward, which is about 120 days now.
Difference between me at home and then is I didn’t swear an oath to protect this country, up to, including, and beyond stopping America’s domestic enemies from installing an illegitimate president. I’ll do a hell of a lot more in the coming years than those oath breakers as they suck the dick of the government just for a paycheck and humiliation. Fuck them. They had their shot of proving they were worthy of respect and they fucking blew it for the whole country
Big words. Your username checks out and I get it, but you're asking for millions of martyrs when we're not there yet. Everyone's got their line and I hear many saying it's been crossed, but to what effect? There may come a time when there's consensus on how to judge them but for now they're essentially plopped down like puppets for effect. Yes, that's bad because of the implications, but let's just stay alert and keep this clean for as long as possible.
Just a preview of how our communist overlords will treat everyone.
Disgraceful.
You only have to follow lawful orders.
No one should be made sick from metal shavings or undercooked food. However, those soldiers have no balls to protect Biden if they're only excuse is 'following orders'.
So, you'd take the Discharge, big shot?
I'm not military. But I have scruples and a conscious.
Hell, I was in the military in the past, and if I saw what was going on today, I'd take a discharge in a heartbeat.
I seriously doubt any soldier will look back on protecting Biden and be proud in any sense of the word.
People act like it's impossible for someone in the military to leave. I've seen people go AWOL for way less than this.
I got an honorable discharge, but I have heard it is possible for people to get an "other than honorable discharge" upgraded to an honorable discharge after a period of time. Not sure exactly how that works.
If you get a dishonorable or other than honorable discharge, it might make it more difficult to get government jobs, but I think most non-government jobs wouldn't give a shit about your discharge status as long as you didn't do something crazy. Refusing to take part in a political photo op in DC would likely help you with conservative employers anyways.
Chairman Jao Xiden has all the characteristics of a full-blown dictator. He isn't fooling anyone. Even the locusts that are the left are pissed off at Kids In Cages. He simply can't win.
Id discharge a big shot.
thats what cuomo said
That's what she said cuomo said.
Walk away.
They get what they fight for
There are some shills on here whose sole purpose is to lower morale. One person with 5 accounts that have been carefully cultivated can look like a movement. The only useful thing that libs learn in college is how to use psychology to screw with people.
I dont think the deserve this but they did not stand up either against tyranny and allowed trans ppl in the military its weak.
You literally cannot stand up for anything while in uniform. MP's will take you away and you will have a military trial for violating the UCMJ. And a dishonorable discharge does a lot more than just kick someone out of the military.
The military requires the Supreme Court and/or Congress to rule against something or make a law, if they are to go against orders.
K tell that to the military that purges all opposition and treats solders horribly to a currupt supreme court law and order went out the window a long time ago.
That is my point exactly.
they aren't fighting, they're being used as show props and fed metal shavings
Undercooked beef I could live with, but that looks like raw chicken :/
They'd be better off with MREs while they are in DC.
No sympathy. They took and oath and broke it as far as I’m concerned
They have no real choice. If they refuse they will be handed an Other Than Honorable Discharge AT BEST, which means all of their benefits, such as VA benifits, schooling, etc are permanently removed and they are ineligible for government assistance, and that's the AT BEST ending. You don't want to know the "at worst" punishments.
You don't get to pick which commands you follow. Your life is no longer your own when you join the military, and most do it out of love for country, so fuck ANYONE who disparages these troops as traitors. I would fucking ruin you in a heart beat if I ever saw any of you fucks spewing your garbage in person. You'd be eating from a straw the rest of your life.
They wouldn't spew that garbage in person because they're neckbearded LARPers who'd scream and run away from a fight.
This is correct. People who are posting shit like "you get what you deserve" or "this is just karma" have likely never served and have no idea of the massive sacrifice they are casually demanding of these 18-20 year old kids.
Edit - fixed typo
Good on the folks who serve. It's bullshit we have such butthurt types that whine about these guys enlisting. I honestly think they might be shills with how much drama and hate they try whipping up.
judging by the downvote ratio of your comment, I think you might be right over the target...
I'm starting to really believe in the one guy multiple accounts theory. Upvoting xirself and commenting on their own posts to reinforce the illusion they are creating.
I think so too, but that's just a shill and his bots that follow me around this site for days. I think there's a real push to get us to give up on police and military and while neither is perfect, I believe in and respect them for the most part.
Looks like shilling losers hit your posts with a truckload of downvotes. What losers they are.
That right there is enough for me. I would never advise anyone become an order follower. Like the parent comment said though, once they're in, they have to eat metal shavings and like it, desertion is a pretty big deal.
I see your still getting your complimentary downvotes lol.
Ok now do tranny advocates
Just like in basic training! And AIT!
Isn't there going to be an investigation over this?
(You must admit, my delivery may suck, but, my material is HILARIOUS!)
Apparently the only security threats that NG troops face are DC politicians and local democrat cooks
That's attempted murder, plain and simple and every official in that godforsaken state needs to be hung at Gitmo
Maybe they should’ve kept their oath and not let them install a dictator. Oath breakers can still rise up and restore proper law and order
Zero sympathy as long as they defend an unelected dictator honestly. What did these troops expect ushering in a communist regime?
Washington is such a deep blue shit hole the kitchen staff are probably doing this shit on purpose.
Metal shavings don't just get into your food, someone has to put them there.
Nobody was complaining about unlawful orders when they were overseas. Only now that they’re taking place here. I support the grunts and the NCOs, fuck the rest for the most part. I understand what some of y’all are saying, but you don’t tell the lineman that they should quit their job because of a policy you don’t like, why would you tell that to a soldier?
Karma. National guard is betraying their oath to serve We The People and protecting blatant treasonous politicians who stole the voice of the people.
ABANDON YOUR POST IMMEDIATELY
Fuck you. You act like they have a fucking choice. Funny how a few months ago you were sucking their dick. As if it's their fucking fault. Grow a fucking pair and stop whining on the internet like a fucking baby.