Ashli Babbit was murdered at the capitol on January 6th. There is nothing useful about that fact to our enemy. This is why they don't talk about it.
I have seen the 'False Flag' video. Not impressed. In fact that video is using the same terrible method that the MSM uses to lie to us. There is a voice telling you what you are seeing while you are NOT SEEING what they say. It reminds me of the MSNBC clip of people walking in between the velvet ropes inside the capitol while some 'news' guy is telling you that it's an angry mob sieging capitol.
People ask about the bullet and the amount of blood. As if our enemies are eager to show you forensic evidence of their own crime?
But hey - "change my mind" if you think you can prove it was faked. But you better have something iron-clad. I've seen several long unedited videos that culminated with her murder. I was at the capitol on the 6th (not close to this incident). I know the media and many of our so-called representatives are lying about that day. But this is why I think it is so important for us to be telling the TRUTH.
edit - I think some people don't understand that there are many times REAL murders used in the production of a FALSE Flag.
I think they hoped it would spark a fire fight, but nobody had guns, and most of the people in the hallway behind Ashli were cops
very true. They were hoping for bloodshed all day. No police or EMT presence for the vast rally area or the march. A pathetic defense at the capitol. They have admitted to having intel that dangerous people were going to be infiltrating the rally. Rumors of people being armed.
These people KNOW how to provide public safety. Therefor they KNOW how to promote public disasters.
Here is my opinion: They were hoping violence would break out and people would start killing each other - so that the mighty State could come to the "rescue". They would have used tons of force and blamed Trump for all of it.
This explains the prepared statements and the OVER reaction to the event. The already lied, so they had to keep running with it. Comparing it to 9/11?? It's insulting
YES - if you're referring to those traitors who came out with crocodile tears using this as an excuse to ignore OUR OBJECTIONS to the electoral college.
They needed blood to prompt the histrionics they had practiced in the mirror.
We gave them no blood. So they drew it.
At the very least it was excessive force.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that. Are you saying maybe she was shot but did not die?
Huh? I'm saying it was excessive force to shoot her dead.
OK... that's why I asked. Well to your point; "excessive force" is actually defined.
When you carry a lethal weapon for the government you are required to have RULES of engagement and RULES of the use of Lethal force.
This is why I am calling this murder. The MSM has taken up the narrative that this was a justified use of force (there's a first for everything I guess).
But if they were authorized this level of force then that should actually be documented somewhere. Speaking from experience, I can add that failing to use force when such a threat was going on would be considered serious dereliction. So why did other police allow the continued entrance into these areas?
And finally, why was there NO ATTEMPT TO ARREST. There were several other police standing right behind her.
I said, at the very least it's excessive force.
That's not a disagreement or a debate.
right. I agree with you. I was just adding to your point about excessive force.
of course deadly force in this situation was extremely excessive.
I don't get why it would be faked. You think the state cares about shooting a person if they want a dead person?
well said. It's like people don't even try the Socratic method.
WHY - is an important question.
It was designed to rile up Trump supporters into taking violent actions. The Trump people, save for a rogue or two did NOT participate in violence or destruction on that day.. It also could have been used to pin a death on Trump,
So why wouldn't they actually just kill someone? Wouldn't that get a bigger response?
EXACTLY.
They were desperate to start a bloody war that day and Trump Supporters NEVER took the bait. I witnessed people STOPPING others from getting caught up in that.
So the State was forced to take the first shot. And we STILL refused to dishonor America.
They killed her thinking it would be buried in dozens or hundreds of other deaths.
Hence the reason they allowed the protesters to be funneled into a kill zone. The entire hallway beyond where Ashli was shot was lined with armed men. It would have been a massacre.
There was so much peace and joy all day... I believe we witnessed a miracle. We were surrounded be people praying and praising God. Our enemy had no power.
They must have been panicking. Someone in the shooter's ear demanded they kill the next one thru the door.
Ashli, being smaller than the guys offered to go thru the window. She started to climb thru. Shooter had plenty of time to determine whether she was armed, had nobody to protect. He just shot to kill. Sick.
Yes but then you would have to kill someone.
Why's that matter to them at all? Especially since you said the point was to cause violence, which would inevitably result in more deaths.
I am not them, cant tell you for a fact what they are thinking,,,,just can give my best ideas.....as far as Im concerned it was staged and the video is enough proof for me. It makes no sense whatso ever.
After all the people the Clinton’s (and CIA) had killed this Q fan believes these folks couldn’t stomach killing a real American? Wow. Just wow. They believe it is all fake because these murderous warmongers couldn’t possibly kill Ashli? Wow.
I can’t think of any democrat politicians off the top of my head who would care if any of us died or were killed. Not one.
This is some crazy mental acrobatics by these folks.
I think you have to try making a positive argument for what you think happened. Because you're failing to challenge what we are saying.
You do understand that the State has no problem with the death of innocents, don't you?
I already said Im not them and there could be reason NOT obvious to me as to why it was done. As far as Im concerned I have seen enough to determine she was not killed for real. Im not required to provide THEIR specific motive in order to believe what happenend.
Keep pushing that Ashli was killed if it makes you feel better about the situation. From my point of view there is NO proof that she was killed.
well you've stated that someone produced a video so they could express their "opinion" and that video was 'enough proof" for you. So I would just ask that you stop parroting propaganda here.
k, she wasnt killed though, would ask that YOU stop parroting propaganda because you want it to be true.
Of course the guy doing the VO is giving his observations of what is happening...you are not being forced to agree with him....but at the same time anyone looking at it objectively just knows that something is not right. I suppose the single biggest tell to me is that there is NEVER any blood shown on her shirt, and it was in focus and even lit up very clearly for lenghts of time....So why is that "cop" applying a wet nap to a "wound" and his hands are not bloody except once finger that caught some drip from her nose/mouth.
You're not an EMT I'm guessing.
The point is, sometimes the human body doesn't explode blood everywhere like you think it should when injured.
Most of my confidence in this fact is from my own personal injuries. But I have also seen some nasty ones on others.
I watched the videos. None of the camera operators were trying to steadily document forensic evidence for skeptics like you.
k...whatever bro...she wasnt killed...now I know you are using BS techinques in your arguement...no one said she had to explode blood, but there was no blood on her shirt at all.
Not even sure what your last sentence means
sarcasm. I will not be using the /s punctuation so you'll have to put a little effort in.
Some faggot downvoted. I've noticed an increasing about of leftist terrorists in here.
interesting - are you saying that the [Ashli is fake] narrative is being planted by leftists?
as in disinformation?
Yeah maybe. It may also just be a bunch of crazy Qtards drafting up their next conspiracy too. I have no clue, but what I am sure of is Ashli Babbitt is a patriot and a hero and she had more spirit and fight than most men. There's a minority on this site who think the whole Jan 6th event was fake and totally made up of leftists. That's wrong and it dishonors all the patriots who made it there so people like you and me who sat on our ass could have our voices be heard. Some are in jail, and unfortunately, one was murdered in cold blood by government officials.
Well I don't know whose interest is served with this false narrative. Besides the absurdity of it - with false flags - the fake stuff is prime time, not in this case.
Did they ever find any legal proof of her death?
I don't know who 'they' is. But I would ask - if 'they' can stage a murder in the US Capitol. Can't 'they' create whatever 'legal' proof you are seeking?
I would like to see someone with Iron Clad evidence of her death that day.There is none, we just all took an image of her with a mouthful of blood and the words of people who said "she's dead" even though she is seen with her eyes wide open being wheeled away on a gurney.
Then they reported she died and we ALL took it as fact UNTIL the staged video went viral. It was only then that they created more "evidence" like the memorial and burial at sea (ala Bin Laden
face it nobody has empirical evidence. That's why we have to use reason and logic and all the best sources of raw data that we can access.
Your assertion amounts to - you saw a video where someone said something you agreed with. Fine. But do you have a logical reason to believe what you are saying?
Do you have logical reason to believe what you are saying? I already told you it was not about what the VO said, it is about what I SAW with my own eyes. There is more evidence that she was not shot than there is she was shot....that is MY observation and is independent of what the guy in video says.
Im done going back and forth bro, if you feel like you just have to get the last word in then okay.. Catch you some other time.
I have been sharing many on this thread. Also started the debate with logical arguments. keep searching, you'll find them.
edit - just gotta love that you started with a direct question and then thought you'd use the 'last word' dig.
The truth is she was not killed. Believe what you want though. If you are not impressed with the video of the fakery then I doubt anything else will change your mind. Personally a death cert or a funeral (not that BS 45 days after the fact that they were forced into) would have been some proof of death for me.
When I assert something as truth, I'm prepared to defend it.
Bullshit pal, you made your mind up and that is that. so be it...dont pretend like you are being objective.
I don't understand the logic behind these two statements:
The vastly witnessed shooting and killing of a protester was completely staged.
But I would believe it if I saw a death cert or funeral
are those impossible to fake?
Arent they easier to just produce?
I guess I'm not making my point clear to you. If you think the event was staged then why would you believe a picture of a fake document or a staged funeral?
Besides the video that someone made, do you have any evidence that the simplest explanation should be dismissed?
The video is enough for me. It doesnt make any sense. Believe what you want you have made your mind up. As far as a fake funeral or doc , they didnt plan that part of it as they were not even trying to convince people of the death beyond that day, everyone just ASSUMED she was dead and no other proof was required.....until the debunk video went viral....then they started back in with the memorial and eventual funeral BS...in the real world those things would have happened much sooner....
I love that more and more people are searching for the truth. But let me caution you, discerning the truth is a long arduous and humbling process. You can't feelz your way to it. This is an information war. There are evil extremes hiding behind every man-made ideology. And therefor, there are also lies coming from every direction.
I'm just asking you to be much more careful about the narratives that you get comfortable repeating.
When someone says "the truth is" lol.