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Nekroziz 6 points ago +6 / -0

The ballots are print outs from the digital copies as far as I've seen evidence for. So, worthless.

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AlpineSeaHolly 4 points ago +4 / -0

Is the senate/AG aware that they are not originals?

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Nekroziz 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yes

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raptoris 1 point ago +1 / -0

At this point the only move that could change anything is Trump making a rally or statement in Arizona. Thats of course not happening, because he has compromised fags around him that keep information away from him. But if somehow it got to him how insane the situation in Arizona is, he would sure do something.

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PlateOwner [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also, have you heard of The Brakey Method? What do you think of it?

John Brakey requested ballot images from Pima County, was told they were being destroyed. He sought and obtained a Temporary Restraining Order (TRO) to prohibit Arizona officials from destroying the images. His work mushroomed out into many other U.S. states, generating cooperation from some and obstruction from others. It is Brakey who boiled this important transparency measure down into a simple three-part method (images, connector ID, right to examine actual ballots). It is Brakey who has been most effective at propagating this excellent solution. We need a name for it. Bev Harris started calling it The Brakey Method to make it easy to say and easy to explain as a 1-2-3 process that...

https://blackboxvoting.org/the-brakey-method/

You should call John in as an observer for the forensic audit. He has clout in Arizona. He is also engaged in this election's audit. He works with the AZ Libertarian Party. They were unfairly uninvited and left out of the recent MC 'audit.' It would be fair and helpful to invite John and the LP to the forensic audit. Do you agree? He has a very good eye for catching things. I would also invite the LP attorney Michael Kielsky whom the MC attorneys were jerking around. He reps Brakey and is a former software engineer. Good people for observation. The GOP don't always treat them fairly. You should.

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PlateOwner [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

The ballots are print outs from the digital copies as far as I've seen evidence for. So, worthless.

What would be the rationale for printouts of digital copies instead of just keeping the originals? I realize it's easier for rigging but what's the justification they attempt or their stated pretext?

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Nekroziz 6 points ago +6 / -0

So that they don’t violate the order of retaining the ballots for 2 years. I’m no lawyer but I believe the recorder and board think they can weasel around that law with copies.

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lake-koshkonong 2 points ago +2 / -0

UGH. We need much stronger legislation/clarification in our states to keep the ORIGINAL ballots. Incredible.

So all of these boxes being packed up for show - they could have handed over a USB with digital images of these "ballots" with the same result.

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Tdaman 3 points ago +3 / -0

Who was responsible for the custody of the original ballots? Will they be prosecuted?

The prior, interim and current county treasurers should be held responsible and investigated for not taking custody of the ballots ASAP after the election was certified.

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Nekroziz 6 points ago +6 / -0

That I don’t know. I’d say the county recorder. And the AG is involved with this at a criminal level investigation.

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13ABNRGR 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do the scan images at least show if it was an adjudicated ballot versus non adjudicated? If so it would be easy to find statistical impossibilities. IE 90% went to Biden and in general be way above the normal.

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Nekroziz 6 points ago +6 / -0

They’re post adjudication

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lake-koshkonong 1 point ago +1 / -0

They need to pursue who's decision this was to destroy/eliminate the -original- ballots then... just awful!