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PhilosoGuido 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why not both?

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Counterforce1 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Both for sure but not the first at the cost of the second

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PhilosoGuido 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also not the second as a prerequisite for the first. The left would be all too happy to see us achieve neither.