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JesusisKing 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wait what are you saying haha

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GODwins76 -2 points ago +1 / -3

haha read it again get back to me with actual historical evidence. amazon.com/gp/product/1578840198/

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JesusisKing 1 point ago +2 / -1

dude i cant help you if you want to be ignorant to apologetics lmao you do realize its one of the most studied and debated topics in world history right? like you link to a 100 page book and there are entire hermetic libraries dedicated to preserving the history. doesnt matter though it is written in our hearts. i would say the best historical evidence for it is that you are currently living in the wake of it. All western civilization changed. Literally no Jews, Muslims and obviously Christians do not deny Christ but rather the resurrection or other theological topics. I actually probably agree with you that there are a ton of forgeries and things but you do realize the orthodox Christian church still exists and has documentation in direct ceremonial lineage going all the way back to the original apostles? its hard to comprehend from a modern western perspective but the original church still lives to this day, its just unpopular...yknow narrow gate and all.

How do you explain the sacking of Jerusalem in 70AD? what about the THOUSANDS of roman records of killing Christians, we have direct first hand accounts from the apostles later disciples like idk you would have to ignor massive history changing events after the resurrection and Pentecost to accept your world view and those people exist man.

It really comes down to weather or not you believe them in your heart because a lot of it can never be proven materially, thats kindof the point of faith :)

you would be suprised to learn that muslims view Jesus as a prophet and say peace be upon him as they do "Allah" they don't deny, and Jews don't either they just stick to their guns obviously. Messianic Jews exist they have libraries of their own.

Lots of this stuff has not made it onto the internet and is still in orthodox libraries all over eastern europe and the middle-east.

You do know they found the three crosses on the hill right? eastern roman empire excavated the site and then split the crosses into fragments to be sent all over Christendom like theres so so so much history i cant take your amazon book seriously im sorry m8 haha

NOT ONLY THAT but the historical impact of the Holy Spirit is also well documented, plus literally hundreds of years of wars against Muslims, Huns you name it. We just only have a weird "baptist" view of Christianity thats was completely removed from the history of the faith.

The biggest thing for me is just the history man, you can't forge massive societal change from 200ad to now.

If my memory serves me right even Christs brother started a church in Cyprus and stayed there with Theotokos (christs mother) until her passing? :) theres so much history lost America needs to reconnect with.

http://agioslazaros.org.cy/

Theres the bible, theres church tradition, and then finally the church fathers, until you earnestly try and gain understanding of the history and lineage i agree with you it all seems crazy :)

if there is one thing i would have you study in earnest it is the greek understanding of LOGOS as it pertains to the Godhead. it may clear later latin or protestant misunderstandings of the origonal greek new testamnent but more importantly allow for the mechanics of the belief system to be understood in a more logical framework than most modern baptists really care for (which is fine)

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GODwins76 -3 points ago +1 / -4

Check out this perfect meme for you: https://patriots.win/p/12hkYOucTL/how-does-the-media-sleep-at-nigh/ right there right there

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JesusisKing 0 points ago +1 / -1

ya man but you realize its kindof a cop out to just be like oh its a lie you arent really taking history into account yet you want historical proof its super ignorant to the culture you live in. its like living in a building and being asked for proof that the structure is standing. it would never have been built in the first place, do you know how many martyrs gave everything, nearly all the apostles were martyred, hundreds of thousands died to the Muslims and all of that is captured from their perspective, in fact you may find some of the best historical evidence from their point of view! Why wouldnt they expose the lie if it was so.

Seriously bro i challenge you to walk into any orthodox church in your area and just sincerly ask them for what you seek you will find it! :) 2000 years isnt actually that long.

In fact we have more direct historical evidence for Christ than we do alexander the great! :) most people are just never taught these things here i aint mad at ya