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Chayabrocha321 5 points ago +6 / -1

Families need to be more important to society too many people are divorced, too many people support abortions and way too many people are okay with the lack of fatherhood.

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Aambrick 1 point ago +2 / -1

Society that was engineered by the elite over decades. Made it so it is beneficial for one to breed and not have the father around.

Get rid of the benefits of that, and encourage benefits for families will help in correcting the problem.(This is mainly on the states to point out. Federal government does have some role in this make no mistake, but the main culprit is the states themselves)

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Chayabrocha321 2 points ago +2 / -0

Socialism /communism/Marxism what ever people call it the fundamental family fails when any government gives people money for not working, bailouts for addicts, or even in some cases advertising abortions ( desennsitized to murder) everything feeds the human nature sounding nice but ultimately kills aspects of humanity.

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Aambrick 1 point ago +2 / -1

Reason for getting rid of the benefits since it encourages a lot of this. It is only one facet, but it is a facet that creates a strong feedback loop.

What you said is another facet for starting/keeping them(or feedback loop) at it.

I think when states start doing benefits for families, and discourages things that break families would help with it being a strong feedback loop.

A strong community that supports the family is going to be the ones that help build strong men and strong women.

Like the neighborhood watch something similar with helping families and single individuals with things like finances(both learning how to spend money and save money), moral support, experience(marriage, kids, wisdom, skills, etc), and just general knowledge. I think in this way it teaches things that were meant to be taught, but are nearly extinct for at least half of America.

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MindsetRoulette 5 points ago +5 / -0

-#1 death bed regret for men is spending more time at work than with family. I've yet to meet a mother that wished she spent less time with family.

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CindiPede 4 points ago +5 / -1

Girls need better role models. PERIOD. You don't see the home makers because they stay at home.

Staying at home is NOT glamorous. It tends to be the opposite of exciting. A person won't be satisfied with staying at home if they are addicted to the pleasures in the world.

Staying at home and raising a family is a SELFLESS act. It is done for the benefit of others, not the mom. A person cannot do this if they put themselves first.

You need to train women to be based, secure in who they are, and with the desire to serve others before themselves.

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HeavenlyTrumpets [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

You touch on a great point. MANY women who work outside the home do not actually need to. Some do but I know many who don't / didn't need to work while their kids were in the home, especially... but they choose to do it, oftentimes because the truth is they can't hack being a stay at home mom and wife. They care a lot about what this dysfunctional society has to say about them. They desperately want to be "somebody" and aren't okay with just being what they need to be to the most important people.

Some of them want "financial independence," which is a totally backwards way to approach a marriage if you want it to LAST. Some are willing to spend as much on childcare as what they make because the truth is they just don't want to / can't handle being home taking care of their kids / family.

I know I sound kind of judgemental but in many cases, I think it's warranted, and it's about time people start being a little judgemental and calling out the REAL motivations that many of these women have... selfish motivations. What's worse is that these same women love to play the victim / martyr and pretend what they're doing is a big sacrifice, and our society too often encourages that lie.

Now of course there ARE some women who DO need to work to support their families. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the ones who really have no good reason they need to. The only reasons they have are actually selfish.

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Palazzolo1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Domestically inept women who disdain maturity.

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Aambrick 2 points ago +3 / -1

Its more about the fact that when you do call them out that you got males(normally married ones in my case) that defend those women instead of actually listening.

The most common thing that was said is "You are not a woman/married so what makes you have the right to say anything to her"(which is normally after the fact that most of them do like to abuse their positions). It has really turned a lot of women off besides the fact that I don't put up with the bull of wanting to manipulate another person. Gotten multiple guys to see that so there is progress, but drastically slow though.

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Mummabear20 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree with you for the most part. The only thing I disagree with is that you there is no benefit for the mother. There is a huge benefit. You get to see your baby grow. You see all their firsts. You have the freedom to parent the way you want to, without having to stick to a daycare schedule. You don't get as sick because your kid isn't catching all those super bugs from daycare and you don't catch them from people at the office. You don't get as stressed because you don't have to focus on work and home. Your marriage is better because you both have your roles. These are just some that I have experienced.

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CindiPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

I actually agree with everything you said. Didn't mean to imply that there was no benefits to the mom, but the mom needs to have those benefits as their priority, not other life perks.

There are those that can't imagine reducing their spending by quitting their job and staying home. There are those that find their kids an annoyance and can only take them in small doses.

There are those that don't believe they could ever teach their own children, so would never contemplate homeschooling. The truth is, they can do it. It is a lot of effort, but it can be done.

I really get frustrated when someone says, "I could never do that!" (for just about anything) Sure you could (for the most part), it takes practice and time, but in the end you could, if you wanted to do it.

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Mummabear20 4 points ago +5 / -1

I always thought I was weird because I never knew what career I wanted. I was always pressured all through school. I got an office job and everyone was so happy that I "figured it out". Well, I hated it. I didn't want to work. I wanted to stay home and have babies. I'm finally doing just that and I have never been happier.

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CindiPede 3 points ago +3 / -0

3/4 of my high school friend's parents were divorced. My parents were divorced. I didn't want to get married because I didn't want to go through a divorce. It seemed a natural outcome of getting married. That is why I kept going through school. I didn't know what I was going to do after school though, and I drifted.

I am lucky to have found a man who convinced me that marriage didn't have to be that way.

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Mummabear20 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm glad you found someone. It would have been tough to grow up with that. It's no wonder you don't want to go through the same thing. It can be really traumatic kids, to have their lives turned upside down like that. It doesn't have to be like that though. There are just as many children of divorce that go on to have happy healthy marriages. My parents are still married but their relationship is dysfunctional. It took a minute to break out of some of those habits but it can be done.

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HeavenlyTrumpets [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

Same. I spent the entirety of my 20s working my ASS off at service jobs, retail jobs, and office jobs. I also spent lots of time in school. I many times went over 30 hours without sleep. It was horrible. I hated it. And in the end I didn't have much of anything to show for any of it, except for lessons learned. Thank God I met the man I married and when I was 29 and am now having his third child.

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TheTelltaleFly 3 points ago +3 / -0

Me too!!! Nuclear families are the bedrock of civilization.

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jackneefus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Allowing is good.

Encouraging is not always constructive.

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Aambrick 2 points ago +3 / -1

One is either a woman or a man, but one will never be another. Saying otherwise just means that person has a mental disorder.

Another is that women are better in the home than men for the reason that guys are bred to be tough and toughened up which means that anything other than that will receive that same thing where a soft hand would be preferred. The same is true in reverse as well.

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HeavenlyTrumpets [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

We don't have to be about just one thing.