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HeavenlyTrumpets [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

You touch on a great point. MANY women who work outside the home do not actually need to. Some do but I know many who don't / didn't need to work while their kids were in the home, especially... but they choose to do it, oftentimes because the truth is they can't hack being a stay at home mom and wife. They care a lot about what this dysfunctional society has to say about them. They desperately want to be "somebody" and aren't okay with just being what they need to be to the most important people.

Some of them want "financial independence," which is a totally backwards way to approach a marriage if you want it to LAST. Some are willing to spend as much on childcare as what they make because the truth is they just don't want to / can't handle being home taking care of their kids / family.

I know I sound kind of judgemental but in many cases, I think it's warranted, and it's about time people start being a little judgemental and calling out the REAL motivations that many of these women have... selfish motivations. What's worse is that these same women love to play the victim / martyr and pretend what they're doing is a big sacrifice, and our society too often encourages that lie.

Now of course there ARE some women who DO need to work to support their families. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the ones who really have no good reason they need to. The only reasons they have are actually selfish.

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Palazzolo1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Domestically inept women who disdain maturity.

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Aambrick 2 points ago +3 / -1

Its more about the fact that when you do call them out that you got males(normally married ones in my case) that defend those women instead of actually listening.

The most common thing that was said is "You are not a woman/married so what makes you have the right to say anything to her"(which is normally after the fact that most of them do like to abuse their positions). It has really turned a lot of women off besides the fact that I don't put up with the bull of wanting to manipulate another person. Gotten multiple guys to see that so there is progress, but drastically slow though.