Continue keeping your brother's morale up. Never leave him alone to his own devices. And make sure that you do not make him feel he's a burden, and that all you're doing is a pain.
It might help, in this case, if you're rep is a dem. Police abuse may help them in their cause.
If your rep is a republican, go to him anyway.
Might help to retain an attorney, a prominent one, before going to your rep. Also, the bullies knowing you have a lawyer will hopefully make them back off.
If you could study your police force and see if the chief is a man of integrity, maybe get an appointment to see him.
I'm sorry your family is going through this for something so petty. Harassing a minor is just pathetic behavior from adults.
Document everything you can. Video the harassment. Will keep your family in mind in my prayers.
That is genius, I'm sending my governor an email right now as we speak and will be making some phone calls tomorrow. Thank you for the kind words. I tried lifting his spirits up today and it worked a little. They are trying to bully a good kid. They've been catching him alone and know he's helpless and we're trying to help him every way we can. I'm astounded they'd approach and harass a minor while he's alone but this is the reality of the situation. First thing I told him was "DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM, REQUEST AN ADULT PRESENT AND ASK IF YOU ARE UNDER ARREST / FREE TO GO" He has no idea of his rights and they haven't been inclined to inform him of them. Just verbal abuse and stalking
Call the Attorney General of the state you live and file a complaint.
The AG will call the Police Chief for answers.
The Police Chief will contact you for details.
Not even much of a small town but yes they do seem to have too much free time. Doesn't help that most of our neighbors are cops too. They all know him by name now. This guy has been talking shit about my brother to all them and even started a profile on him. The bitch cop who harassed him the other day said she pulled up a file on him and it said that he is disrespectful towards cops and is basically deemed dangerous. They said this right to him and my sister. She had to bite her tongue because they all have guns and are just chomping at the bit to pull them.
One of these fuckers will pull that gun eventually. You need to be prepared to protect yourselves for fucks sake.
You need to do the following...like fucking now.
1)Call a lawyer and sue for harassment.
2)Arm yourselves. Cops or no cops. if they try to hurt your brother you have to stop it, with fucking force.
3) I'd probably send your brother and sister away to a relatives until this gets sorted out. LEO are scumbags and would 100 percent kill your brother given the chance.
Thank you. I'm going to speak with my dad about this tomorrow so we can get this ball rolling. It's all been so insane we've been in shock over here about this. We will absolutely be doing both options
I only heard of it today but it has apparently been going on for a week now. I got suspicious when I noticed the cops coming around our house frequently. Today was the kicker when one sat outside by our mailbox until a car pulled into the driveway next door. Apparently they've been harassing his friends too, anyone they've seen him with. My brother's friends parents are starting to get concerned too, these cops have got everyone spooked
No offense but your dad is an idiot. He should've never apologized and he certainly shouldn't have let this stew for a week.
You need to give him both barrels over this shit tomorrow and then do everything else I said. yelling at your dad by itself would be trying to scare the kid. Scoping out the house for the week is malicious intent.
Please be prepared...the minute you call a lawyer and go over that cops head to his superior, all hell is gonna break loose. I would seriously consider relocating, but even that may not fix this. This cop sounds like he has a bad superiority complex and is used to bullying his way around. To be honest, I would document everything, but show zero reaction to the bullying. Bullies are fueled by your reaction. Once it gets through his thick skull that he can’t ruin your life, he will get bored. Just my humble opinion. I wish you the best of luck.
You really need to call a lawyer, or go to legal aid, since, as a minor, he probably doesn't have much income. Most legal aid lawyers HATE the police. If he sues and gains any damages, he should relocate as quickly as possible. Someone in your family has to make the call whether the girl's father and the other cops are truly dangerous or just trying to teach a young man a lesson. If the girlfriend's account is true, she definitely has a case of child abuse.
Local cops are incredibly tribal and can't abide anyone questioning their authority. You must understand how fraught this situation is and that every movement and act on your part must be thought out beforehand. Personally, I think violence or preparing for violence with a gun is a bad idea. You know the cops will back each other up if there is any type of incident in terms of lying about what happened, or covering each other in a physical encounter.
I said be ready to defend. They guy already said he wants to kill his brother. I dunno about you but I'm a father. And if anyone threatened to my face to kill my son I'd cut his fucking throat.
I'd like to think that his father is preparing for such a scenario just in case.
Thank you. Yes are just trying to make sure we do everything right here. We would really like for this to just go away, but we are looking into lawyers and getting armed. As his brother, I had an even stronger reaction about this than my father but I'm in much less of a position to do anything. But I also have much less to lose. If anything fucking happens to him... This situation is ripping us apart right now
If he is threatening, and is a cop, it won't happen. Yes, one should always be ready to defend ones life. Be polite, be courteous, but always have a plan to kill everyone else in the room. Remove oneself from potential violent situations. If backed into a corner, with real threat of life or limb in the moment, respond with such force that not only ends the threat, but all others as well.
FBI agents killed Randy Weaver's wife and son at Ruby Ridge. If you think a Cop won't violently kill someone who doesn't deserve then I disagree.
Kinda hard to remove yourself from a situation when they are literally circling around the block and on the look out from you. It's a timebomb waiting to happen and they need to feel some pressure from a judge and laywer to deescalate. But who knows when that can materialize, so in the meantime they need to prepare for the possibility that this guy isn't all bluster.
!!DE-ESCALATE!! See an attorney, notate everything! time, place and event, , tell him to stay away from this girl, acknowledge he his hurt, but advise him that fucking around comes with a price, always has, always will. Unless you are backed up with a cadre that can deal with this muscle to muscle ( you're not or you wouldn't be asking), then you and your brother need to accept you are outgunned..!!!!DE-ESCALATE.!!!! AND BEWARE, THIS BITCH OF A GIRL KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN, SHE KNOWS WHAT KIND OF MAN HER DAD IS, SHE MAY TRY AGAIN TO SET YOUR BROTHER UP. Some girls are just this way..it's not about your brother, it's about getting even with her Dad..you can bet on it! 🐸🇺🇸
Not so sure about that. She really likes my brother and is abused by her father. She hates him at this point. I can see why you would say that but it was just a case of kids being kids. They love each other
Sorry, but I've been here, my Dad was like this man..for that reason I did not bring my friends around him, to protect them. Like you said, she KNOWS her father is extremely abusive...and she dragged your brother into HIS house to fuck in her room??? I wouldn't call that loving concern for his welfare..but maybe I'm wrong, what do I know?🤔🇺🇸
You have to put yourself in a kid's shoes, though. Obviously in her mind they were never going to get caught. This is the exact type of behavior you can expect from kids with strict parents
If you say so...Like I said, abused kids know better, unless their up to something..My Dad was one the strictest fuckers you would ever meet..Yeah, you learn to kick back, but not when it is almost sure to catch YOU in HIS house. I knew better by the time I was 8 than to have friends over, ESPECIALLY to do something he wouldn't approve..You do that where he will NEVER find out. But maybe this guy is not the super bad you have painted him to be? Maybe that little girl is lying through her teeth? Maybe your brother? My Dad was beating me with a 32" fiberglass rod when I was 7, put me to 40 strikes with a 210 electrical cord when I was 12..had a loaded 357 in my face at 13, 16, 18 and 22..you think I would really take a friend, go sit in my room and get high (or whatever) with him in the house? Fuck No! Not unless I was TRYING to provoke him..Fuck No! I'm telling you, something about this story is cockeyed imo ..But anyway, your brother is stupid as shit if he thinks he is just gonna walk into a man's house, fuck his daughter and walk out for free ..this is the real world.
Kids being kids? Wow aren’t you the fool. They don’t love each other. Most adults don’t even know how to love each other, let alone idiot teens. What these kids love is getting off on each other and sneaking around makes it more risky and fun for them. If your brother or this girl truly loved one another they wouldn’t have put each other in such a stupid situation. Kids being kids... what a foolish thing to say.
A normal parent would reprimand the kids not beat and stalk them. Don't blame minors for the actions of abusive adults. Keeping kids on too tight of a leash will lead to the opposite of what's good for them.
You are the foolish one. We were all kids once. Yeah, we may not know what love is yet but I'll be damned if you don't believe that's what's you feel at that age. But you're missing the point. The point is that they like each other and he was INVITED over. You've let your foolishness blind you from the bigger blunder here. Corruption of an adult and abuse of a minor.
You guys are kinda fucked. Sorry to say. The cop made up a story about your brother molesting his daughter more than likely and how your dad got belligerent with the cop at his own home. Now you have lots of enemies. Consider moving, you won't win here.
Continue keeping your brother's morale up. Never leave him alone to his own devices. And make sure that you do not make him feel he's a burden, and that all you're doing is a pain.
It might help, in this case, if you're rep is a dem. Police abuse may help them in their cause.
If your rep is a republican, go to him anyway.
Might help to retain an attorney, a prominent one, before going to your rep. Also, the bullies knowing you have a lawyer will hopefully make them back off.
If you could study your police force and see if the chief is a man of integrity, maybe get an appointment to see him.
I'm sorry your family is going through this for something so petty. Harassing a minor is just pathetic behavior from adults.
Document everything you can. Video the harassment. Will keep your family in mind in my prayers.
That is genius, I'm sending my governor an email right now as we speak and will be making some phone calls tomorrow. Thank you for the kind words. I tried lifting his spirits up today and it worked a little. They are trying to bully a good kid. They've been catching him alone and know he's helpless and we're trying to help him every way we can. I'm astounded they'd approach and harass a minor while he's alone but this is the reality of the situation. First thing I told him was "DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM, REQUEST AN ADULT PRESENT AND ASK IF YOU ARE UNDER ARREST / FREE TO GO" He has no idea of his rights and they haven't been inclined to inform him of them. Just verbal abuse and stalking
Call the Attorney General of the state you live and file a complaint. The AG will call the Police Chief for answers. The Police Chief will contact you for details.
Film every interaction, and everything said.
Fucking baller. Thank you. I am getting tears at the thought of something being done about this. Thank you
Cool user name.
You must live in a small town if cops have that much free time to follow your bro around.
This
Not even much of a small town but yes they do seem to have too much free time. Doesn't help that most of our neighbors are cops too. They all know him by name now. This guy has been talking shit about my brother to all them and even started a profile on him. The bitch cop who harassed him the other day said she pulled up a file on him and it said that he is disrespectful towards cops and is basically deemed dangerous. They said this right to him and my sister. She had to bite her tongue because they all have guns and are just chomping at the bit to pull them.
One of these fuckers will pull that gun eventually. You need to be prepared to protect yourselves for fucks sake.
You need to do the following...like fucking now.
1)Call a lawyer and sue for harassment. 2)Arm yourselves. Cops or no cops. if they try to hurt your brother you have to stop it, with fucking force. 3) I'd probably send your brother and sister away to a relatives until this gets sorted out. LEO are scumbags and would 100 percent kill your brother given the chance.
Thank you. I'm going to speak with my dad about this tomorrow so we can get this ball rolling. It's all been so insane we've been in shock over here about this. We will absolutely be doing both options
How long has this been going on?
I only heard of it today but it has apparently been going on for a week now. I got suspicious when I noticed the cops coming around our house frequently. Today was the kicker when one sat outside by our mailbox until a car pulled into the driveway next door. Apparently they've been harassing his friends too, anyone they've seen him with. My brother's friends parents are starting to get concerned too, these cops have got everyone spooked
Uh yeah...
No offense but your dad is an idiot. He should've never apologized and he certainly shouldn't have let this stew for a week.
You need to give him both barrels over this shit tomorrow and then do everything else I said. yelling at your dad by itself would be trying to scare the kid. Scoping out the house for the week is malicious intent.
Please be prepared...the minute you call a lawyer and go over that cops head to his superior, all hell is gonna break loose. I would seriously consider relocating, but even that may not fix this. This cop sounds like he has a bad superiority complex and is used to bullying his way around. To be honest, I would document everything, but show zero reaction to the bullying. Bullies are fueled by your reaction. Once it gets through his thick skull that he can’t ruin your life, he will get bored. Just my humble opinion. I wish you the best of luck.
You really need to call a lawyer, or go to legal aid, since, as a minor, he probably doesn't have much income. Most legal aid lawyers HATE the police. If he sues and gains any damages, he should relocate as quickly as possible. Someone in your family has to make the call whether the girl's father and the other cops are truly dangerous or just trying to teach a young man a lesson. If the girlfriend's account is true, she definitely has a case of child abuse.
Local cops are incredibly tribal and can't abide anyone questioning their authority. You must understand how fraught this situation is and that every movement and act on your part must be thought out beforehand. Personally, I think violence or preparing for violence with a gun is a bad idea. You know the cops will back each other up if there is any type of incident in terms of lying about what happened, or covering each other in a physical encounter.
Uh call a fucking lawyer...
And then sue these people for harassment. The buy a gun and get ready to defend your brother from these redcoat fucks....
responsibility. First half of this. The third part should have happened long ago. The last part won't happen
I said be ready to defend. They guy already said he wants to kill his brother. I dunno about you but I'm a father. And if anyone threatened to my face to kill my son I'd cut his fucking throat.
I'd like to think that his father is preparing for such a scenario just in case.
Thank you. Yes are just trying to make sure we do everything right here. We would really like for this to just go away, but we are looking into lawyers and getting armed. As his brother, I had an even stronger reaction about this than my father but I'm in much less of a position to do anything. But I also have much less to lose. If anything fucking happens to him... This situation is ripping us apart right now
Film them. Get names, badge numbers, everything. Write everything down. Dates, and times.
Such and such said this on this date. On this date at this time this car circled our house. Etc.
No one goes anywhere alone. Buddy teams always and armed. If what you are saying is accurate then these fuckers are way past the line.
If he is threatening, and is a cop, it won't happen. Yes, one should always be ready to defend ones life. Be polite, be courteous, but always have a plan to kill everyone else in the room. Remove oneself from potential violent situations. If backed into a corner, with real threat of life or limb in the moment, respond with such force that not only ends the threat, but all others as well.
FBI agents killed Randy Weaver's wife and son at Ruby Ridge. If you think a Cop won't violently kill someone who doesn't deserve then I disagree.
Kinda hard to remove yourself from a situation when they are literally circling around the block and on the look out from you. It's a timebomb waiting to happen and they need to feel some pressure from a judge and laywer to deescalate. But who knows when that can materialize, so in the meantime they need to prepare for the possibility that this guy isn't all bluster.
!!DE-ESCALATE!! See an attorney, notate everything! time, place and event, , tell him to stay away from this girl, acknowledge he his hurt, but advise him that fucking around comes with a price, always has, always will. Unless you are backed up with a cadre that can deal with this muscle to muscle ( you're not or you wouldn't be asking), then you and your brother need to accept you are outgunned..!!!!DE-ESCALATE.!!!! AND BEWARE, THIS BITCH OF A GIRL KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN, SHE KNOWS WHAT KIND OF MAN HER DAD IS, SHE MAY TRY AGAIN TO SET YOUR BROTHER UP. Some girls are just this way..it's not about your brother, it's about getting even with her Dad..you can bet on it! 🐸🇺🇸
Not so sure about that. She really likes my brother and is abused by her father. She hates him at this point. I can see why you would say that but it was just a case of kids being kids. They love each other
Sorry, but I've been here, my Dad was like this man..for that reason I did not bring my friends around him, to protect them. Like you said, she KNOWS her father is extremely abusive...and she dragged your brother into HIS house to fuck in her room??? I wouldn't call that loving concern for his welfare..but maybe I'm wrong, what do I know?🤔🇺🇸
You have to put yourself in a kid's shoes, though. Obviously in her mind they were never going to get caught. This is the exact type of behavior you can expect from kids with strict parents
If you say so...Like I said, abused kids know better, unless their up to something..My Dad was one the strictest fuckers you would ever meet..Yeah, you learn to kick back, but not when it is almost sure to catch YOU in HIS house. I knew better by the time I was 8 than to have friends over, ESPECIALLY to do something he wouldn't approve..You do that where he will NEVER find out. But maybe this guy is not the super bad you have painted him to be? Maybe that little girl is lying through her teeth? Maybe your brother? My Dad was beating me with a 32" fiberglass rod when I was 7, put me to 40 strikes with a 210 electrical cord when I was 12..had a loaded 357 in my face at 13, 16, 18 and 22..you think I would really take a friend, go sit in my room and get high (or whatever) with him in the house? Fuck No! Not unless I was TRYING to provoke him..Fuck No! I'm telling you, something about this story is cockeyed imo ..But anyway, your brother is stupid as shit if he thinks he is just gonna walk into a man's house, fuck his daughter and walk out for free ..this is the real world.
Kids being kids? Wow aren’t you the fool. They don’t love each other. Most adults don’t even know how to love each other, let alone idiot teens. What these kids love is getting off on each other and sneaking around makes it more risky and fun for them. If your brother or this girl truly loved one another they wouldn’t have put each other in such a stupid situation. Kids being kids... what a foolish thing to say.
A normal parent would reprimand the kids not beat and stalk them. Don't blame minors for the actions of abusive adults. Keeping kids on too tight of a leash will lead to the opposite of what's good for them.
You are the foolish one. We were all kids once. Yeah, we may not know what love is yet but I'll be damned if you don't believe that's what's you feel at that age. But you're missing the point. The point is that they like each other and he was INVITED over. You've let your foolishness blind you from the bigger blunder here. Corruption of an adult and abuse of a minor.
Please don’t have kids anytime soon.
You've got a chip on your shoulder.
give him a good tire pressure check
Get a lawyer.
You guys are kinda fucked. Sorry to say. The cop made up a story about your brother molesting his daughter more than likely and how your dad got belligerent with the cop at his own home. Now you have lots of enemies. Consider moving, you won't win here.
Post this on ask.win
Didn't even know that was a thing. I'll do that, thanks