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America is f**ked. (media.patriots.win)             MAGA            
posted ago by Palestinelivesmatter ago by Palestinelivesmatter +356 / -0
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markolbb 1 point ago +1 / -0

We can't have discussions with them anymore because we no longer agree on the truth. We used to be able to have arguments in good faith because we had different paths to the same goal, we no longer have that.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

You make a really good point. When I engage with them, I always try to start with some seemingly obvious truth that they can't disagree with. Obvious things like "killing people is bad, can we agree on that?"

Those discussions are not designed to sway the Leftist but rather the audience.

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markolbb 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah and even that tactic is starting to fail. Crowder's "Change My Mind" used to have people who disagreed sit down and try to rationalize why they disagree. They no longer even try, the only people who sit down with him now basically say "yeah I agree with you except on this minor point" and then they won't stand up for that anyways. Public discourse is basically finished at this point which is a big part of the reason we are in the situation we're in now. I miss the days of speaking to someone totally different and having that experience of having my mind expanded and walk away saying "wow I never considered or thought of it that way before..."

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Those good conversation do still happen and there are still people who don't have the full picture (or any part of the picture) that we need to reach. It's just gotten harder to find those people and to engage in a manner that doesn't turn into the typical binary Twitter-spat.

The fact that they started banning us means we were making an impact. There's a reason the media's trust ratings are at all time lows. The message is getting out.

I love Crowder, but haven't had time to keep up with his content lately, I manage to watch maybe 1 out of 3 videos these days, due to all the other content I try to digest daily.