Regulated immigration isn't a bad thing. Mass immigration and unregulated immigration is what is bad. Governments should hardcap how many people can immigrate to a certain geographic area, but nah, thats too much work.
The issue arises when due to incompetent government management they are allowed to set up what are in all essentiality colonies without state sponsorship. Once it becomes viable to go an entire day in public life without speaking the nations tongue, as we have here with some of the colonies in Rotterdam, Brussels, Antwerp and Amsterdam (mixing Maroccans with Turkish people here but disregard that), that is when the issue arrives.
Another issue we have in the Netherlands is that for whatever retarded reason the government allowed Turkey to do party outreach in our nation. Which is just dumb. And it results in this weird pro-Erdogan youth mob having come into existence near Den Haag
Yes. Basically my argument is "multiculturalism is good" followed by a few dozen asterisks outlining the large number of requirements to assure good integration, assure a lack of ethnic strive, assure an absence of perverse incentives etc.
Basically the opposite of where we have now where integration is paid lipservice every election cycle ignoring the fact that many immigrant populations have created integration-free environments where it is pretty much unnecessary, where massive ethnic communities form, where there is a clear monetary incentive for people to come here and there isn't the basic motivator of loving/respecting a country to the point of wanting to live there.
Most western immigration systems are utterly broken, however, simply stopping it altogether isn't a viable solution either. Though yeah we do basically need a near total dial down of it for at least a generation to make up for the 2 generations of frogboiling the native sentiment towards immigration numbers.
Regulated immigration isn't a bad thing. Mass immigration and unregulated immigration is what is bad. Governments should hardcap how many people can immigrate to a certain geographic area, but nah, thats too much work.
The issue arises when due to incompetent government management they are allowed to set up what are in all essentiality colonies without state sponsorship. Once it becomes viable to go an entire day in public life without speaking the nations tongue, as we have here with some of the colonies in Rotterdam, Brussels, Antwerp and Amsterdam (mixing Maroccans with Turkish people here but disregard that), that is when the issue arrives.
Another issue we have in the Netherlands is that for whatever retarded reason the government allowed Turkey to do party outreach in our nation. Which is just dumb. And it results in this weird pro-Erdogan youth mob having come into existence near Den Haag
So what? You are okay with limited immigration, as long as they're, what, forced to not live together and vote as a bloc?
Yes. Basically my argument is "multiculturalism is good" followed by a few dozen asterisks outlining the large number of requirements to assure good integration, assure a lack of ethnic strive, assure an absence of perverse incentives etc.
Basically the opposite of where we have now where integration is paid lipservice every election cycle ignoring the fact that many immigrant populations have created integration-free environments where it is pretty much unnecessary, where massive ethnic communities form, where there is a clear monetary incentive for people to come here and there isn't the basic motivator of loving/respecting a country to the point of wanting to live there.
Most western immigration systems are utterly broken, however, simply stopping it altogether isn't a viable solution either. Though yeah we do basically need a near total dial down of it for at least a generation to make up for the 2 generations of frogboiling the native sentiment towards immigration numbers.