Wait, 60? I thought stuff only need 51 votes to pass?
I keep reading posts saying "They won't get 60 votes"
Do bills in the Senate need 60 to pass now, or only certain ones? And what determines who many they need?
Sorry for my ignorance, I just always thought every bill and every cabinet confirmation needed a simple majority, and not 60. Is this the filibuster that Dems created and are now trying to get rid of? Or am I just retarded and that's something else? lol
The filibuster was created accidentally because of a rule change back in 1806. It was very rarely used back then but in modern times it has become standard procedure. During the 1950's and 1960's in order to stop civil rights legislation there were cases of Senators using their time reciting shakespeare or cooking recipes for hours and hours trying to get any attempt to vote withdrawn. A rule was made to stop this by getting 3/5's or 60 Senators out of a hundred the ability to agree to stop a filibuster.
On paper, bills in the senate only need simple majorities to pass. However, a filibuster can only be forcefully ended by invoking cloture [ending debate] via 60 votes, which effectively raises the requirement to a 60 vote majority for any significant piece of legislation. This is assuming that you have folks who WILL filibuster for as long as is necessary when it matters.
Calling them democrats seems kinda disingenuous tho right? Considering Woodrow Wilson democrats adopted the first modern use of the filibuster and that was some 50 years before the two parties did their big switcheroo into their current forms
There was no mass switching of parties, nor were there a mass switching of policy. The Democrats policies today, are very similar to the Jim Crow era laws, I mean, back then, they did what they could to take rights away from Black Americans, now Democrats are trying to take rights away from certain Americans.
Johnson only signed the Civil Rights law AFTER Republicans passed it in the House and Senate, with only very few Democrats voting for it.
Why in the name of the good Lord, would Republicans fight so hard to free the slaves, and work so hard to give them equal rights, only to turn around and completely oppose those policies? It makes no sense.
Wait, 60? I thought stuff only need 51 votes to pass? I keep reading posts saying "They won't get 60 votes" Do bills in the Senate need 60 to pass now, or only certain ones? And what determines who many they need?
Sorry for my ignorance, I just always thought every bill and every cabinet confirmation needed a simple majority, and not 60. Is this the filibuster that Dems created and are now trying to get rid of? Or am I just retarded and that's something else? lol
The filibuster was created accidentally because of a rule change back in 1806. It was very rarely used back then but in modern times it has become standard procedure. During the 1950's and 1960's in order to stop civil rights legislation there were cases of Senators using their time reciting shakespeare or cooking recipes for hours and hours trying to get any attempt to vote withdrawn. A rule was made to stop this by getting 3/5's or 60 Senators out of a hundred the ability to agree to stop a filibuster.
On paper, bills in the senate only need simple majorities to pass. However, a filibuster can only be forcefully ended by invoking cloture [ending debate] via 60 votes, which effectively raises the requirement to a 60 vote majority for any significant piece of legislation. This is assuming that you have folks who WILL filibuster for as long as is necessary when it matters.
Ah, thanks! That explains why the Dems now want to get rid of the filibuster they put in years ago, cause Republicans are using it to hinder the Dems.
Calling them democrats seems kinda disingenuous tho right? Considering Woodrow Wilson democrats adopted the first modern use of the filibuster and that was some 50 years before the two parties did their big switcheroo into their current forms
You still buy into that party switch myth?
There was no mass switching of parties, nor were there a mass switching of policy. The Democrats policies today, are very similar to the Jim Crow era laws, I mean, back then, they did what they could to take rights away from Black Americans, now Democrats are trying to take rights away from certain Americans.
Johnson only signed the Civil Rights law AFTER Republicans passed it in the House and Senate, with only very few Democrats voting for it.
Why in the name of the good Lord, would Republicans fight so hard to free the slaves, and work so hard to give them equal rights, only to turn around and completely oppose those policies? It makes no sense.